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Sunset River Arabian
03:14:01 Athena - AAs
Willow id use either a hrt or scp glass. Or even jmed
Connally Stud
03:13:21 Senda
my first ever chimera peacock appy
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Rising Stars Stable
03:12:33 Willow ~ AA Breeder
I'm going to need a little over 200k for all of my matches this year, >-<
Ouch
Sunset River Arabian
03:12:27 Athena - AAs
Willow
Give me a second. Im on my phone so it's harder
Angels angels
03:11:03 [1k+ brindles] Angel
Em
Just do a cheap WWW
Sunset River Arabian
03:10:45 Athena - AAs
Willow
No her dad was my first WWW colt. Still sad he was never nice to me. Hopefully the last filly he gave me will be nice
Angels angels
03:10:40 [1k+ brindles] Angel
Matching is done except a PON I have to wait for next week for her week 4.
Also does anyone know how much Finwe and Potato's straws are?
Rising Stars Stable
03:10:08 Willow ~ AA Breeder
-HEE Click-
Athena
Blue glass for this match?
Insignia Elites
03:10:03 Em
I was thinking of just throwing her at me EWW stallion... But then Im like I rather throw her at a WWW
Angels angels
03:09:08 [1k+ brindles] Angel
Em
I have a mare like that lol I just am using cheap LB studs for her.
Rising Stars Stable
03:08:54 Willow ~ AA Breeder
oops, I meant the match, XD
The Lone Star
03:08:28 
Sherpa map in raid.
Rising Stars Stable
03:08:22 Willow ~ AA Breeder
-HEE Click-
Athena
This is the one you are talking about? XD
Angels angels
03:08:10 [1k+ brindles] Angel
Oh pretty!!!
Angels angels
03:07:53 [1k+ brindles] Angel
Athena
Alright I guess I will try a glass. Especially since it isn't one of my highest matches and all other 20 matches will be using filly items XD
Insignia Elites
03:07:52 Em
I don't know what to do with her xD She isn't producing well. Im not sure I want to put too much ebs in her match -HEE Click-
BlueBirdFalls
03:07:50 Blu
Angel!
I am obsessed with this cutie I bread
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Sunset River Arabian
03:07:31 Athena - AAs
I still haven't figured out my matches here or on the KNN account. RID os the only one set for RO
Angels angels
03:06:49 [1k+ brindles] Angel
Potato it is lol
I have a few TB matches and even one X match with a lot of color potential. Hopefully they don't dodge it all
Sunset River Arabian
03:06:29 Athena - AAs
I'd use the glass. Even a WW tobi colt can be okay. You could at least yeet him at a bunch of EEEs and maybe get lucky. My EWE boy threw a EWW with an EEE mare. And the baby was actually decent

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Sunset River Arabian
03:14:01 Athena - AAs
Willow id use either a hrt or scp glass. Or even jmed
Connally Stud
03:13:21 Senda
my first ever chimera peacock appy
-HEE Click-
Rising Stars Stable
03:12:33 Willow ~ AA Breeder
I'm going to need a little over 200k for all of my matches this year, >-<
Ouch
Sunset River Arabian
03:12:27 Athena - AAs
Willow
Give me a second. Im on my phone so it's harder
Angels angels
03:11:03 [1k+ brindles] Angel
Em
Just do a cheap WWW
Sunset River Arabian
03:10:45 Athena - AAs
Willow
No her dad was my first WWW colt. Still sad he was never nice to me. Hopefully the last filly he gave me will be nice
Angels angels
03:10:40 [1k+ brindles] Angel
Matching is done except a PON I have to wait for next week for her week 4.
Also does anyone know how much Finwe and Potato's straws are?
Rising Stars Stable
03:10:08 Willow ~ AA Breeder
-HEE Click-
Athena
Blue glass for this match?
Insignia Elites
03:10:03 Em
I was thinking of just throwing her at me EWW stallion... But then Im like I rather throw her at a WWW
Angels angels
03:09:08 [1k+ brindles] Angel
Em
I have a mare like that lol I just am using cheap LB studs for her.
Rising Stars Stable
03:08:54 Willow ~ AA Breeder
oops, I meant the match, XD
The Lone Star
03:08:28 
Sherpa map in raid.
Rising Stars Stable
03:08:22 Willow ~ AA Breeder
-HEE Click-
Athena
This is the one you are talking about? XD
Angels angels
03:08:10 [1k+ brindles] Angel
Oh pretty!!!
Angels angels
03:07:53 [1k+ brindles] Angel
Athena
Alright I guess I will try a glass. Especially since it isn't one of my highest matches and all other 20 matches will be using filly items XD
Insignia Elites
03:07:52 Em
I don't know what to do with her xD She isn't producing well. Im not sure I want to put too much ebs in her match -HEE Click-
BlueBirdFalls
03:07:50 Blu
Angel!
I am obsessed with this cutie I bread
-HEE Click-
Sunset River Arabian
03:07:31 Athena - AAs
I still haven't figured out my matches here or on the KNN account. RID os the only one set for RO
Angels angels
03:06:49 [1k+ brindles] Angel
Potato it is lol
I have a few TB matches and even one X match with a lot of color potential. Hopefully they don't dodge it all
Sunset River Arabian
03:06:29 Athena - AAs
I'd use the glass. Even a WW tobi colt can be okay. You could at least yeet him at a bunch of EEEs and maybe get lucky. My EWE boy threw a EWW with an EEE mare. And the baby was actually decent

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Can Someone Explain the Cream. Roan, and Agouti Genes? December 17, 2018 08:39 PM

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I have read all the guides I can find but still cannot figure it out. If I find some more I get stuck on I will edit this post.

Edited at December 17, 2018 08:43 PM by Royal Crown Acres
Can Someone Explain the Cream. Roan, and Agouti Genes? December 17, 2018 08:56 PM

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What are you needing explained to you? What colours the genes can cause, or something else?
Can Someone Explain the Cream. Roan, and Agouti Genes? December 18, 2018 04:50 AM

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Anglachel Acres said:
What are you needing explained to you? What colours the genes can cause, or something else?

I don't really understand how the genes mix if that makes sense. Like if one horse is Rnrn and the other is rnrn what are the possibilities? And so on so forth with the other two genes.
Can Someone Explain the Cream. Roan, and Agouti Genes? December 18, 2018 05:55 AM


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You can find the explanations in these two guides:

https://horseeden.com/forums.php?f=25&t=45

https://horseeden.com/forums.php?f=25&t=49


And you can see all expressions of the color variations via this link:

http://www.jenniferhoffman.net/horse/horse-color-genetics.html
Can Someone Explain the Cream. Roan, and Agouti Genes? December 18, 2018 03:13 PM

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Kuewi KNN Stable said:
You can find the explanations in these two guides:

https://horseeden.com/forums.php?f=25&t=45

https://horseeden.com/forums.php?f=25&t=49


And you can see all expressions of the color variations via this link:

http://www.jenniferhoffman.net/horse/horse-color-genetics.html


What about the t in agouti? I can't seem to find anything about.
Can Someone Explain the Cream. Roan, and Agouti Genes? December 18, 2018 04:01 PM


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The t in agouti makes brown

Ata heterozyous brown
AtAt homozygous brown
AAt homozygous bay hiding brown (bay is dominant over brown)
Can Someone Explain the Cream. Roan, and Agouti Genes? December 20, 2018 02:31 PM

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Jericho Stables said:
The t in agouti makes brown

Ata heterozyous brown
AtAt homozygous brown
AAt homozygous bay hiding brown (bay is dominant over brown)


Thank you so much!
Can Someone Explain the Cream. Roan, and Agouti Genes? December 25, 2018 07:23 PM


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Not sure if you are still looking, but this is how I understand it... :)

Agouti and Extension help create the "base coats".

Agouti takes a black horse and makes a bay by restricting black in the body, creating the "points" (legs and mane/tail). It has 4 levels: aa (black), Aa (dark bays [seal brown, mahogany, etc]), AA (light bays [light, cherry, blood, etc]), and Ata (chestnut/brown).

Extension is also called the "Red factor". It is responsible for the degree of red in chestnut and bay, how "bright" the color is. It is similar to a light switch: if it is there, it's on; if not, it's dark. When it's on, it shows up in various shades.

The two above genes work together on a sliding scale. The X axis is one, Y the other. Black is zero, or the "base", 6x6 is bright chestnut.
https://www.freemathhelp.com/images/lessons/xy1.png

Roan works similar to Agouti, only it replaces base hairs on the body with white/grey.

I hope this makes sense! :)
Can Someone Explain the Cream. Roan, and Agouti Genes? January 4, 2019 06:18 PM

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WarriorMaiden said:
Not sure if you are still looking, but this is how I understand it... :)

Agouti and Extension help create the "base coats".

Agouti takes a black horse and makes a bay by restricting black in the body, creating the "points" (legs and mane/tail). It has 4 levels: aa (black), Aa (dark bays [seal brown, mahogany, etc]), AA (light bays [light, cherry, blood, etc]), and Ata (chestnut/brown).

Extension is also called the "Red factor". It is responsible for the degree of red in chestnut and bay, how "bright" the color is. It is similar to a light switch: if it is there, it's on; if not, it's dark. When it's on, it shows up in various shades.

The two above genes work together on a sliding scale. The X axis is one, Y the other. Black is zero, or the "base", 6x6 is bright chestnut.
https://www.freemathhelp.com/images/lessons/xy1.png

Roan works similar to Agouti, only it replaces base hairs on the body with white/grey.

I hope this makes sense! :)


I kind of get it. Would you be able to pm me about how exactly the chart works. I can't find anything useful online about it. I don't know why genetics are so hard for me.

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