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Angels angels
08:12:32 [1k+ brindles] Angel
Nah I have seen that red before
I think it is just a version of the Pangere
Wolf Dancer
08:10:00 Wolf Burger (Leg)
Gem!
Sun Ranch
08:05:10 
Gotta love at dark chestnut
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Gem
08:04:07 Gem
Oh weird Athena! I haven't either, almost makes me wonder if it's a glitch lol
Sunset River Arabian
08:01:50 Athena - AAs
I've never seen this red nose buckskin before. It's pretty
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Thunder Song Stable
07:59:29 Hawk
Thank you raven :)
Soaring hope stables
07:57:26 Raven
Hawk
What about
Irish Melody or Harmonic grace?
LonghornRanch
07:56:57 
Pretty happy about this little guy should I geld him?
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Galaxy TBs
07:54:23 Star/Galaxy/Sunny
Preferably someone experienced with palettes, please (:
Galaxy TBs
07:53:15 Star/Galaxy/Sunny
Would someone PM me about palette help please? I have royally screwed up and need help fixing it lol
Thunder Song Stable
07:51:34 Hawk
Can someone help me give her a name please?

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AP Legacy
07:50:42 ✨ Sassy
Love this guy -HEE Click-
Prismatic
07:50:19 Prism/Chrome/Rainy
Would y'all make a PEP mare a SD mare or keep AD?
Ellsworths Eden
07:48:22 
Oh! Nice. It's definitely a challenge but keep your head up
Hummingbird Meadows
07:48:06 Bird
Fudge, just bought a stallion for $20k when I am hoping to use it for a show horse.
Glacier Bay Cove
07:45:55 Arctic Katz
Yes
Ellsworths Eden
07:45:46 
Do you breed for Bravery, Glacier?
Glacier Bay Cove
07:45:44 Arctic Katz
Or maybe it will take longer than that
Glacier Bay Cove
07:45:12 Arctic Katz
Hope to get some Ws next RO, if possible
Ellsworths Eden
07:28:51 
Did Seven tell you how many Ws we got so far?

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Angels angels
08:12:32 [1k+ brindles] Angel
Nah I have seen that red before
I think it is just a version of the Pangere
Wolf Dancer
08:10:00 Wolf Burger (Leg)
Gem!
Sun Ranch
08:05:10 
Gotta love at dark chestnut
-HEE Click-
Gem
08:04:07 Gem
Oh weird Athena! I haven't either, almost makes me wonder if it's a glitch lol
Sunset River Arabian
08:01:50 Athena - AAs
I've never seen this red nose buckskin before. It's pretty
-HEE Click-
Thunder Song Stable
07:59:29 Hawk
Thank you raven :)
Soaring hope stables
07:57:26 Raven
Hawk
What about
Irish Melody or Harmonic grace?
LonghornRanch
07:56:57 
Pretty happy about this little guy should I geld him?
-HEE Click-
Galaxy TBs
07:54:23 Star/Galaxy/Sunny
Preferably someone experienced with palettes, please (:
Galaxy TBs
07:53:15 Star/Galaxy/Sunny
Would someone PM me about palette help please? I have royally screwed up and need help fixing it lol
Thunder Song Stable
07:51:34 Hawk
Can someone help me give her a name please?

-HEE Click-
AP Legacy
07:50:42 ✨ Sassy
Love this guy -HEE Click-
Prismatic
07:50:19 Prism/Chrome/Rainy
Would y'all make a PEP mare a SD mare or keep AD?
Ellsworths Eden
07:48:22 
Oh! Nice. It's definitely a challenge but keep your head up
Hummingbird Meadows
07:48:06 Bird
Fudge, just bought a stallion for $20k when I am hoping to use it for a show horse.
Glacier Bay Cove
07:45:55 Arctic Katz
Yes
Ellsworths Eden
07:45:46 
Do you breed for Bravery, Glacier?
Glacier Bay Cove
07:45:44 Arctic Katz
Or maybe it will take longer than that
Glacier Bay Cove
07:45:12 Arctic Katz
Hope to get some Ws next RO, if possible
Ellsworths Eden
07:28:51 
Did Seven tell you how many Ws we got so far?

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Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:21 PM


Eastwood Acres
 
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I'm not to good with genetics and just tested her. If someone can help I'd like to know if there's anything special or noteworthy about her genetics :) Thank you in advance!

Edited at February 25, 2024 04:21 PM by Eastwood Acres
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:27 PM


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Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:39 PM


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The Joker said:
Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!


Thank you so much! I appreciate it a lot :)
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 05:01 PM


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Eastwood Acres said:

The Joker said:
Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!


Thank you so much! I appreciate it a lot :)


Of course! Happy to help :) I believe the amber part of her colour is caused by her base colour of Ee which would usually be bay/brown, I may be incorrect though and it may be linked to the agouti gene instead
Genetic Help February 26, 2024 01:28 PM


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Champagnes have weird color names.
Gold Champagne = Chestnut (ee ??) + Champagne gene
Amber Champagne = Bay (E?A?) + Champagne gene
Sable Champagne = Brown (E?At?) + Champagne gene
Classic Champagne = Black (E?aa)+ Champagne gene

So the "Amber" part of her color just means she would be a plain bay horse without the Champagne gene. She's E(black-based) A(agouti) plus Ch(Champagne). She also has that At gene in there which doesn't show on her, but means she could have a brown foal.

The Extension (E/e) gene just determines if a horse is black-based or red-based. If the horse has at least one E gene it's black-based, if ee it's red-based. All horse colors are one or the other with modifiers added for colors besides Black and Chestnut.

The Agouti (A/At/a) gene here is considered only active in black-based horses, so a horse that is red-based (ee) won't express it no matter what alleles are present. What it does is restrict where on the horse black pigment is fully expressed. It limits actual black to the "points" of the horse and leaves the body lacking enough pigment to be truly black, so it's just sort of a faded black color (which appears red, but isn't). So a horse with E?A? is the full-on Agouti color we call "bay" with black points and reddish body. A horse with E?At? has more expression of pigment on the body, has brown "highlights" on the nose, flank, etc and black points and is called "brown". A horse with E?aa is black all over with no restriction from the Agouti gene.

So now we have what E/e and A/At/a are and what they mean to horse colors, you can take all those and apply the modifiers like the white-spotting patterns (Tobiano, Sabino, Frame), Roan, Dun, etc and add in that Champagne has those weird names and so does Cream(CcrC) (Chestnut + Cream = Palomino, Bay + Cream = Buckskin, Brown + Cream = Brown Buckskin, Black + Cream = Smoky Black) and Double Cream(CcrCcr) (Chestnut = Cremello, Bay/Brown = Perlino, Black = Smoky Cream).

Most of the genes here are dominantly-expressed (the capital letter means the horse has that trait), but Pearl is recessive (a horse must have prlprl to be Pearl) and Agouti has 3 alleles, where A overrides the other two, At only overrides a and aa means "non-Agouti).

Hope that helps some people who are still a bit confused. Variable color names don't help. It's like the gene that's called merle in every other dog breed is called dapple in dachshunds. You just have to learn the color names and roll with it.

Edited at February 26, 2024 02:06 PM by Clear Springs
Genetic Help February 26, 2024 10:38 PM


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Clear Springs said:
Champagnes have weird color names.
Gold Champagne = Chestnut (ee ??) + Champagne gene
Amber Champagne = Bay (E?A?) + Champagne gene
Sable Champagne = Brown (E?At?) + Champagne gene
Classic Champagne = Black (E?aa)+ Champagne gene

So the "Amber" part of her color just means she would be a plain bay horse without the Champagne gene. She's E(black-based) A(agouti) plus Ch(Champagne). She also has that At gene in there which doesn't show on her, but means she could have a brown foal.

The Extension (E/e) gene just determines if a horse is black-based or red-based. If the horse has at least one E gene it's black-based, if ee it's red-based. All horse colors are one or the other with modifiers added for colors besides Black and Chestnut.

The Agouti (A/At/a) gene here is considered only active in black-based horses, so a horse that is red-based (ee) won't express it no matter what alleles are present. What it does is restrict where on the horse black pigment is fully expressed. It limits actual black to the "points" of the horse and leaves the body lacking enough pigment to be truly black, so it's just sort of a faded black color (which appears red, but isn't). So a horse with E?A? is the full-on Agouti color we call "bay" with black points and reddish body. A horse with E?At? has more expression of pigment on the body, has brown "highlights" on the nose, flank, etc and black points and is called "brown". A horse with E?aa is black all over with no restriction from the Agouti gene.

So now we have what E/e and A/At/a are and what they mean to horse colors, you can take all those and apply the modifiers like the white-spotting patterns (Tobiano, Sabino, Frame), Roan, Dun, etc and add in that Champagne has those weird names and so does Cream(CcrC) (Chestnut + Cream = Palomino, Bay + Cream = Buckskin, Brown + Cream = Brown Buckskin, Black + Cream = Smoky Black) and Double Cream(CcrCcr) (Chestnut = Cremello, Bay/Brown = Perlino, Black = Smoky Cream).

Most of the genes here are dominantly-expressed (the capital letter means the horse has that trait), but Pearl is recessive (a horse must have prlprl to be Pearl) and Agouti has 3 alleles, where A overrides the other two, At only overrides a and aa means "non-Agouti).

Hope that helps some people who are still a bit confused. Variable color names don't help. It's like the gene that's called merle in every other dog breed is called dapple in dachshunds. You just have to learn the color names and roll with it.


Thank you!

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