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Okay I think she matches atlas but idk IÂ’m getting mixed answers and IÂ’m struggling to match her. She will have a Sven also, who should she be going to?
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*her
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noo! why did you FR him :'(
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Ok 😤 -HEE Click-
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What the actually fuck did I just read -_-
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wish i hadn't scrolled back through chat

that was disturbing
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Chat died 💀
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I'm so excited
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50 minutes and I'm going to snipe these foals
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Just captured this beauty~. -HEE Click-
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Rain
What the hell..
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It always gives you a warning first
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you wont be banned dont worry
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its ok accidents happen
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Well I am going to be baned from sales chat I restarted my browser which caused me to post the same thing more than once at a time.
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Kelan thank you so much!
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Oh that I can't help with lol. I haven't a clue
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Ohh alright, makes sense. I just used an image to make art and spent a really long time on it, only to be unable to auction because thatÂ’s not stated anywhere
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Finding Stock and Crediting March 20, 2017 03:03 PM

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<font class="mainline">This was originally posted by the former Mod Jabbajaw in May2015


When it comes to creating art, the first thing you need is an art program. Photoshop is awesome, and some version of the Wacom tablets(at least the older ones) come with a version of PS Elements, which is all most people will ever need. If Photoshop is not an option(or any other program you have to purchase, GIMP is a great free alternative.
Once you have your program, and the know-how on how to create images(I suggest searching DeviantArt for tutorials-there's dozens on every topic), it's time to go find some images to use.

Most importantly, you need to have the artist's express written permission to use their work(NOTE: almost everything movie/TV/game/comics is copyrighted-do your research before using anything related to these things and make sure they are not copyrighted). Most stock providers on DeviantArt list their stock under the "Resources" category. Many also have additional rules, either in the comments of the deviation itself, on the image, in a journal, or on their main page. If there are no rules in the comments/on the image, make sure to look in these other areas. Some even post their rules in their gallery, and only their gallery, so make sure to look there as well. If they don't have any rules/terms, simply having uploaded their work to the Resources category is your permission to use the stock.

Once you've found the artist's rules/terms, read them closely. Do they limit where their work can be used? Do they require notification that you have used their image? Do they require you to upload it to DA? And so on. If they say "note me about offsite use", do so, and get their permission. In this case, as well as when they ask to see the work, please post your finished piece in the
remarks of the stock used so we can see that proof of notification instantly. Some allow you to ask in the comments, which is even better. No matter what, you must wait until they say yes before using their work. Asking without getting an answer is as bad as not asking at all.

Some artists use the work of others in their stock. After you've made sure you can use the first person's piece , you need to make sure that THEY have permission to use the stock that they did.
For example, look at this background.
<a href="http://colourfulcat.deviantart.com/art/Field-Premade-206408487" target="_blank">http://colourfulcat.deviantart.com/art/Field-Premade-206408487</a>
All seems fine and dandy on that page, but when you look at the stock they used, the one artist clearly states that their stock is " not to be used in combination with other photos to create other 'stock' sources." So that initial piece that you were looking at is now unusable, as it should not even exist.

On the contrary, this image:
<a href="http://emerald-depths.deviantart.com/art/Summer-Sunset-Premade-BG-384818367" target="_blank">http://emerald-depths.deviantart.com/art/Summer-Sunset-Premade-BG-384818367</a>
It lists that all the stock used is from one place, and when you visit that account, it says their stock can be made into other stock, so that pre-made background is OK to use.

Then we have greyscales made from the photos/lines of others.
Example #1:
<a href="http://hbptje.deviantart.com/art/Greyscale-Aomori-s-style-Free-375433559" target="_blank">http://hbptje.deviantart.com/art/Greyscale-Aomori-s-style-Free-375433559</a>
It doesn't say anything about not using on sim games, It does give a link to the lineart, and then the photo reference. Always check the lineart credit first.
<a href="http://bh-stables.deviantart.com/art/Free-lineart-313249569" target="_blank">http://bh-stables.deviantart.com/art/Free-lineart-313249569</a>
You will see the "NOT ALLOWED ON SIM GAMES", so it's a no-go.
If you check the photographer's account, you will see that their stock cannot be used to make other stock. (note-after three years, the photographer was finally made aware of these lines, and demanded they be taken down, so they were. The GS is still available, but it should not be. Again, "illegal" stock).

Example #2:
<a href="http://emmy1320.deviantart.com/art/Warmblood-Greyscale-349356784" target="_blank">http://emmy1320.deviantart.com/art/Warmblood-Greyscale-349356784</a>
Follow the link to their rules, all seems good. Follow the link to the original photo. It can be used to make more stock/doesn't say it can't, so this greyscale is OK to use.


All stock used MUST come from active accounts! Deactivated accounts cannot be accessed, so their work cannot be used.


Once you have created your piece, you need to add the credits to it. I suggest doing this AFTER you resize the image, using a sans-serif font. Serif fonts, and anything swirly are nearly impossible to read unless they are large, and large credits take away from the image, which no one wants.
Do NOT type out the names by hand! Copy and paste them directly from your browser when on the user's main page. By doing this, you almost completely eliminate the risk of typos. More images are reset due to typos than I care to think about, and it is easily avoided.

If you can, it's best to label where each part is from. So along the lines of "horse: NAME1@DA BG:NAME2@DA Fox:Name3@DA etc"
For images from Flickr, please use the person's username(seen in the address bar), NOT their listed name.
If one of your stock pieces is made from other stock(say the good BG from above), you would credit it like this:
"BG: emerald-depths@DA, austriaangloalliance@DA"
For pre-cut images, please list the pre-cutter first, followed by the original photographer.
If you do not wish to, or do not have room to label where each piece is from, please credit things in the order of horse-BG-other("other" being in order from largest to smallest, or left to right across the image). This is not required, but it does make it MUCH easier to track down the images.

Do NOT forget to include the website where the stock artist has their work posted. Not everyone has their worked posed on DA, or Flickr, so the site needs to be clarified.

Rendering programs, if used, need to be credited as well. A "rendered in programXYZ" is fine.

When using an image from an account with hundreds or thousands of pieces, it is greatly appreciated when you include the number the stock provider has named the image(if they have done so-most of the big guys do). Not required, but greatly appreciated.

If you created a piece, and wish to credit your DA account, please:
Just credit your HEE account instead(the easiest option)
Or
Have your ID# on the image
Or
upload the image to your DA account, and either write in the remarks that it is for your stable to use,
or have your account# clearly listed on your main page/ in the area of your gallery where you placed the image.
ID#s on images are the only real "tell" that an image is being used in the original manner it was meant for. Names change, ID#s don't, and their presence makes verifying things that much easier.

Once your image is complete, you need to upload it to an image-hosting site. DeviantArt is not one of these. Tinypic, photobucket, imageshack, among others, are all good, free choices.

When all else fails, hire someone to make the art for you. But remember, you, as the one using the image, are responsible for making sure that the credits are correct before you actually use it! If you are unsure, just message myself or another mod, and we will be happy to help(bonus points if you type out the links and send them to us-we love time-savers!)
Finding Stock and Crediting May 21, 2017 08:52 PM

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Can you please tell me how I can find images on Flickr to use? I want to make sure I'm doing everything by the rules. :)
Finding Stock and Crediting May 24, 2017 05:28 PM
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OMG thanks for the Help!
Finding Stock and Crediting April 11, 2018 12:54 PM
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What is a good editing program that is free I could use?
Finding Stock and Crediting April 11, 2018 01:47 PM

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Thank you! Post image is a good site to post on right?
Finding Stock and Crediting April 11, 2018 06:05 PM
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Yes I use Post image it works good for me :)
Finding Stock and Crediting April 11, 2018 06:58 PM
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WhiteBrook Farmstead said:
What is a good editing program that is free I could use?

I suggest GIMP





Ruby Quarter Horses said:
Thank you! Post image is a good site to post on right?

Postimage is a good site , along with Funkyimg
Finding Stock and Crediting April 11, 2018 08:44 PM

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GIMP, Pixlr if you want browser-based and free, and postimage.org for hosting.

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