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https://horseeden.com/forums.php?f=20&t=25656
Feeling very discouraged as I’m seeing all these other art auctions with pages of bids and then there’s mine that only has one. Which I’m still greatful for, it is better than nothing at all.
Is there something I’m not doing right? Am I missing an important part in the art buisness? Are my pieces too high? Do I need more shine in the mane/tails? Or am I just over thinking thing and dramatic when I should not be? -_-
In all honesty I though my art was pretty good for a person transitioning from Lineart to normal manips, but I guess I’m wrong?
Any advise, more critique, anything is helpful!
(Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this, feel free to move it if it’s not!)
More art examples in my shop:
https://horseeden.com/forums.php?f=57&t=25672
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Hi there! *waves*
Oh the joys of being a "newer" manip artist. I remember those days very well. -_- Try not to be discouraged, as just about everyone has started from the bottom and climbed their way up.
Theres a couple of things i think could help you improve your bids/arts.
1. Advertise. Post your auction thread in the sales chat frequently. Not everyone frequents the forums!
2. Your backgrounds are very blurry. I would try leaving the foreground not blurry, and only blurring out the distance. Im not having the easiest of times figuring out what your backgrounds actually are. More so the first piece, than the second piece. I'd tone down the bluring just a smidge.
3. Your horses are very cleanly cut, and your manes and tails are off to a really nice start. With that being said, your horses are lacking tone definition and details. Again, more so the first piece than the second. This will come with practice. I'd study shadows and highlights. Really focus on photographs and see where muscle definition is, and how certain coat colors shine. And how different light sources create different shadows and tones.
The more you practice, the better you will become. I try and pick one thing to really work on at a time. I'll go find a bunch of tutorials and practice different techniques and find something that works well for me before moving onto something else.
You'll get there in no time. Just keep it up and keep moving forward. |
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I started off selling my stuff for 7k tops, don't be discouraged. I too, started with greyscales and lineart.
I agree with Jello's points, don't be afraid to show your stuff in chat! The art community on HEE is pretty friendly and lots of people love to show their support. Never be afraid to ask for critique in chat.
I've noticed that the bottom half of the Arabian's feet are blurry. Work on sharpening lines! Your stuff is very nicely cut and you do better hair than I could have ever dreamed of doing when I first started.
Work on making the horse's hues match the background image. Tinker around with lighting and different colors! For example, the horse in the first image is too bright for the dark, stormy background. It could use some red and yellow tint as the sunset is that color. Because the horse is facing the sunset, the front parts would be lighter than the butt! Try outlining the parts where the light would be hitting with similar colors the rays of sun. :)
Awesome work though my dude. |
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Jellos Warmbloods said:
Hi there! *waves*
Oh the joys of being a "newer" manip artist. I remember those days very well. -_- Try not to be discouraged, as just about everyone has started from the bottom and climbed their way up.
Theres a couple of things i think could help you improve your bids/arts.
1. Advertise. Post your auction thread in the sales chat frequently. Not everyone frequents the forums!
2. Your backgrounds are very blurry. I would try leaving the foreground not blurry, and only blurring out the distance. Im not having the easiest of times figuring out what your backgrounds actually are. More so the first piece, than the second piece. I'd tone down the bluring just a smidge.
3. Your horses are very cleanly cut, and your manes and tails are off to a really nice start. With that being said, your horses are lacking tone definition and details. Again, more so the first piece than the second. This will come with practice. I'd study shadows and highlights. Really focus on photographs and see where muscle definition is, and how certain coat colors shine. And how different light sources create different shadows and tones.
The more you practice, the better you will become. I try and pick one thing to really work on at a time. I'll go find a bunch of tutorials and practice different techniques and find something that works well for me before moving onto something else.
You'll get there in no time. Just keep it up and keep moving forward.
Oh thank you much, I will definitely be taking your advise on this! I see what you are saying on the blurring and the coat shines and all that, IÂ’ll keep working on it! :) |
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Timber Canyon said:
I started off selling my stuff for 7k tops, don't be discouraged. I too, started with greyscales and lineart.
I agree with Jello's points, don't be afraid to show your stuff in chat! The art community on HEE is pretty friendly and lots of people love to show their support. Never be afraid to ask for critique in chat.
I've noticed that the bottom half of the Arabian's feet are blurry. Work on sharpening lines! Your stuff is very nicely cut and you do better hair than I could have ever dreamed of doing when I first started.
Work on making the horse's hues match the background image. Tinker around with lighting and different colors! For example, the horse in the first image is too bright for the dark, stormy background. It could use some red and yellow tint as the sunset is that color. Because the horse is facing the sunset, the front parts would be lighter than the butt! Try outlining the parts where the light would be hitting with similar colors the rays of sun. :)
Awesome work though my dude.
Very good points, thank you so much! ^-^ |
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I agree with Jello and Timber, dont get Discouraged. Also i like to add
Your prices are totally fine i would say, you need to remember every person has different tastes and also everyone likes to have certain arts.
Every Artist has days when 1 piece sells better or atall then other.
Sometimes people are just looking for a horse art with certain markings sometimes just plain once. Just cause a piece doesnt sell in auction it doesnt mean the piece is not good enough, it just means at the time no one is looking for that kind of Art Piece.
Like Jello said regulary advertise in the sales chat, also sometimes its good to make special prices like reduced price for a week or 2 for 1 special etc etc to make people see your art. Even that sometimes doesnt work but again dont get discuraged.
Every Artists sometimes has issue in selling thats also cause there are sooooo many artists around that are actually better and sell better and their prices are good to, that is how it works though.
A little extra tip from me is watch the Main chat often, look what other people love about their pixel horses if it is the marking, color or breed, even watch people speak about arts alot of times people talk in Main chat about what they looking for. And when you see something with that information that you want to do, do it and put it in auction. That way you made something that people look for, want or would be interested in.
The main part with everything is dont get discuraged, dont take anything personal and have pacience!
You will get there dont worry!
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Pretty much what you got told.
I am moreless on the same spot as you, though I am not that new xD I am someone who left years ago, now returned and simply have to find out the way to go. I haven't even opened an art shop cause of the large amount of amazing artists out there. I show up to contests now and then as a way to practice.
Try to always look for ways to improve. Cause just like you said you need to add lightnings and shadows to the horse hair, you probably have spotted more things. I do the same. I am trying now with different brushes. They do things you would never expect them to. If you haven't tried out, I highly suggest you to. Manipulations have to look as natural as possible and that's the difficulty. |
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