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7 Y/O mare help | Biting, laying down, flipping over July 4, 2021 02:11 PM


Foggy Forest Stables
 
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I have a super nice 7 Y/O full quarter mare that I am trying to get around to eventually starting on barrels. She has about 15 rides on her and was amazing to break. Super easy. She has started developing bad habits lately... She has fully trusted me every single time I got on her, up until recently. First issue: She hates being saddled, ears go straight back, she kicks, bucks, bites, and overall looks uncomfortable. Back cinch is not at all too tight, front cinch is in the right spot, saddle tree does not sit on or squeeze her withers. Talked to my vet and she has a clean bill of health. This habit started recently. I tried switching bits, going softer, to harder, to eventually none at al. Nothing is working. Switching saddles hasnt worked either.
Second issue: not kid friendly and hates men. No man has ever done anything to hurt her, and she has been ridden by a man before with no issues (when I was having no issues with her as well). She has kicked people, while they were walking behind her which is an issue I do not have. She has freaked out and flipped over backwards on a child that was on her... we cant figure out why she did what she did. The whole
thing was supervised by me. She lays down and rolls over on people, she bucks like crazy, she runs you into trees, fences, and bites like crazy while you are on her. I cant use Spurs with her because she gets super aggressive and dangerous to ride. So ive tried respecting the things she doesnt enjoy at all. I took the time to bond with her, ground drive her, and she fully trusts me and loves me. I can do anything with her when it has nothing to do with riding or any work at all. Im down to my last thread with her sadly and will have to sell her if I cant figure out how to help her. She has a huge dominance issue and is extremely aggressive with other horses as well... She follows me around in the pasture, but she refuses to let any other horse near me. I am open to any advice. (Western riding only for me! Lol.)
Update: Kissing spine

Edited at July 9, 2021 02:31 PM by Foggy Forest Stables
7 Y/O mare help | Biting, laying down, flipping over July 4, 2021 03:46 PM


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Get this horse checked for kissing spine/other spinal issues, and consider a neuro workup from a veterinary hospital. They can do a more in depth investigation into potential sources of pain than your average vet that comes out to your barn. Some horses are naturally more aggressive than others, don't like kids, etc but the extent to which she is acting out seems like it is beyond just her innate personality.
7 Y/O mare help | Biting, laying down, flipping over July 4, 2021 03:57 PM


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EmeraldHillsFarm said:
Get this horse checked for kissing spine/other spinal issues, and consider a neuro workup from a veterinary hospital. They can do a more in depth investigation into potential sources of pain than your average vet that comes out to your barn. Some horses are naturally more aggressive than others, don't like kids, etc but the extent to which she is acting out seems like it is beyond just her innate personality.


Getting her back checked slipped my mind completely! Thank you so much! I will see what I can do and update when I can!
7 Y/O mare help | Biting, laying down, flipping over July 4, 2021 05:08 PM


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This sounds like major kissing spine to me :( hope the vet can give you some answers
7 Y/O mare help | Biting, laying down, flipping over July 4, 2021 05:14 PM


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FirstLightFarms said:
This sounds like major kissing spine to me :( hope the vet can give you some answers


Thank you! She has been great to me and im taking her in as soon as possible!
7 Y/O mare help | Biting, laying down, flipping over July 4, 2021 05:28 PM


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Good news is that I am able to get her in today! I should be able to update tonight how it goes!
7 Y/O mare help | Biting, laying down, flipping over July 4, 2021 05:32 PM

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I agree with what everyone is saying above, although hopefully it's something that you can fix! My only other guess would be ulcers. There's a few horses at my barn with it and it causes them to be grouchier when being saddled. They only have minor cases of it, but I have seen horses with major ulcer issues be extremely uncomfortable undersaddle. Just something i've seen commonly, hopefully you're able to get to the bottom of it though, keep us updated if you can!
7 Y/O mare help | Biting, laying down, flipping over July 4, 2021 05:36 PM


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Superior Equines said:
I agree with what everyone is saying above, although hopefully it's something that you can fix! My only other guess would be ulcers. There's a few horses at my barn with it and it causes them to be grouchier when being saddled. They only have minor cases of it, but I have seen horses with major ulcer issues be extremely uncomfortable undersaddle. Just something i've seen commonly, hopefully you're able to get to the bottom of it though, keep us updated if you can!


I will most definitely update when I can! I am getting her in around 7:30 PM (same for Game Time lol).
7 Y/O mare help | Biting, laying down, flipping over July 5, 2021 01:49 AM

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Only other thing I could think of: is she in heat?
7 Y/O mare help | Biting, laying down, flipping over July 5, 2021 03:48 PM


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Palm Beach Stables said:
Only other thing I could think of: is she in heat?


No. It turns out everyone was right. She has kissing spine. I have discussed surgeries and therapies this morning with the vet and decided we will go with a ligament transection. This will hopefully help her in the long run.

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