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I use to show in jumpers on a lovely 17.1h dapple grey ottb gelding who could clear a 5 foot fence. I now ride a 23 year old 14.2h APHC x AQHA who is trained in reining on becoming a barrel horse. How did i go from jumping huge heights to training a horse on the barrel pattern? I've always ridden both western and english. That is until that grey ottb demolished all of my confidence. I quit riding english and practically hated it all because of my fear of it. I brought home a 10 year old, 16.1h sorrel ottb mare who i trained and sold as a broke kid horse started on the barrel pattern and jumping a 2ft course. I then brought my 23y/o mare back into work and ive really gained my confidence back, however, i recently tried to ride english again and boy did my stomach churn. at the time i was ridng my very safe trail gelding who would never hurt a fly and i was absouletly terrified to ride him in an english saddle! it made me feel terrible. Now to get to my main point of this; has anyone ever lost their confidence? how did you work on getting it back! I miss the rider i use to be, i was fearless and i felt pretty on the back of a horse, elegant. Now i feel shitty and gross.... |
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I wouldn't be taking a horse out of retirement that was trained for a moderate speed event and train it for a full speed event. That's just asking for a literal heart attack. When it comes to confidence though, I started with a lot, lost it at some point, and it took a long time to get it back. I had my first horse, a 16.3hh retired polo TB mare that I rode when I was 2 to 5. She was old, and when her health started going downhill, I got a 14.2hh 4 year old quarter horse mare that had been trained for roping, I think heal side, but too big people had roped too big calves on her and ruined her front ankles, so she was only suitable for a light rider. I rode her on and off for a few years and she decided to grow to 15.2hh and get a lot heavier, which made her ankles worse, so I stopped riding her. I rode a grade palomino mare from the kill pen for a little while, and a polo drop out TB gelding that was too lazy for it, but I didn't vibe with either of them. We had had those last 2 for years and I was fine with them on the ground, but they just didn't work for me to ride because the gelding was too lazy and the mare didn't know much. didn't do much riding for a few years. Then, we got Blossom. She was a green broke 11.5 year old that had 30 days as a 2 year old and wasn't ridden again. I got on and she rode off like she hadn't skipped a day. I rode her pretty often and realized that I had gotten afraid to trot, let along lope. It didn't matter what saddle I used. It didn't work for me. I'd gotten horribly uncomfortable with any speed, and we later realized that a factor was the joint problems I have. Before I was diagnosed, I got a bareback pad because I wanted something that weighed less and would be easier for me to put on my horse, and it changed everything. The close contact did a lot for me. I could feel a lot more and felt much more comfortable. I used that pad for like 2 years before it got a tear I couldn't fix, but by the time it wore out, I could run Blossom full steam ahead without a care in the world. Now, if I'm trying to teach a horse something like sidepassing or pivoting, riding bareback is my go to because I can really feel what the horse is doing, making it easier for me to change the signal I'm sending and help them understand. I have 5 horses I'm riding right now that are all extremely different, including 2 of Blossom's babies, and I never have any nerves with them. Maybe try a bareback pad? They aren't crazy pricey and are a comfortable thing to use at least. I also enjoyed taking Blossom to playdays where we could run patterns in the arena without much pressure to actually do good. Blossom also loves working cattle, so sorting cows was a fun way to get more balanced with accelerating and making sudden chances of direction. Barrel racing was a fun thing we did, but I have to recommend using a younger horse or one that is used to speed events. I saw a kid almost get rolled over this summer because they took a short, fat quarter horse gelding out of retirement because he was gentle, and he had a heart attack running home on barrels. He started trip near the end of his run, fell forward, and flipped over. If the kid hadn't been ejected when he fell, she would have been crushed. He's not the only horse that I saw having some major problems this year, but his was the one that sat with me the most. There are a few horses in their early 20s that run at the plays I go to and they're totally fine, but they've been doing it for 10+ years and are used to the output it takes to accelerate and keep momentum in their turns. There's just been a couple that were older and used to light work that just couldn't handle it. Some went lame, some got upset and develvoped bad ally issues quickly, and a couple like that gelding started having heart problems. They still brought that gelding to a couple more playdays, but I didn't see him at the last 5 or more, so I don't know if they took his problem seriously or if he had an accident at home. Whenever it was Blossom's turn to run, I could feel her heartbeat in my stirrups going in because she was excited, but we started when she was 13 and did it for years, so I could take her back and run her again if the rest of my horses were out. She's just one of the last choices now that she's older because I'm paranoid that something might happen and I'd lose the horse that really got me going. |
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It sounds like the problem really started with gray ottb, what happened there that ruined your confidence? |
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EmeraldHillsFarm said:
It sounds like the problem really started with gray ottb, what happened there that ruined your confidence?
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EmeraldHillsFarm said:
It sounds like the problem really started with gray ottb, what happened there that ruined your confidence?
He liked to rear up and flip over on top of you without warning. He would rank out at a canter whenever he felt like it, most of the time I could handle his bucks and by the time I sold him he hadn't bucked in a few weeks but I could never get him to quit rearing up. He would rear as high as he possibly could and then try and flip to get you off. We had him vet checked and had a chiropractor look at him but there wasn't anything wrong except his hocks, and we got those in injected..
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Shingashina said:
I wouldn't be taking a horse out of retirement that was trained for a moderate speed event and train it for a full speed event. That's just asking for a literal heart attack. When it comes to confidence though, I started with a lot, lost it at some point, and it took a long time to get it back. I had my first horse, a 16.3hh retired polo TB mare that I rode when I was 2 to 5. She was old, and when her health started going downhill, I got a 14.2hh 4 year old quarter horse mare that had been trained for roping, I think heal side, but too big people had roped too big calves on her and ruined her front ankles, so she was only suitable for a light rider. I rode her on and off for a few years and she decided to grow to 15.2hh and get a lot heavier, which made her ankles worse, so I stopped riding her. I rode a grade palomino mare from the kill pen for a little while, and a polo drop out TB gelding that was too lazy for it, but I didn't vibe with either of them. We had had those last 2 for years and I was fine with them on the ground, but they just didn't work for me to ride because the gelding was too lazy and the mare didn't know much. didn't do much riding for a few years. Then, we got Blossom. She was a green broke 11.5 year old that had 30 days as a 2 year old and wasn't ridden again. I got on and she rode off like she hadn't skipped a day. I rode her pretty often and realized that I had gotten afraid to trot, let along lope. It didn't matter what saddle I used. It didn't work for me. I'd gotten horribly uncomfortable with any speed, and we later realized that a factor was the joint problems I have. Before I was diagnosed, I got a bareback pad because I wanted something that weighed less and would be easier for me to put on my horse, and it changed everything. The close contact did a lot for me. I could feel a lot more and felt much more comfortable. I used that pad for like 2 years before it got a tear I couldn't fix, but by the time it wore out, I could run Blossom full steam ahead without a care in the world. Now, if I'm trying to teach a horse something like sidepassing or pivoting, riding bareback is my go to because I can really feel what the horse is doing, making it easier for me to change the signal I'm sending and help them understand. I have 5 horses I'm riding right now that are all extremely different, including 2 of Blossom's babies, and I never have any nerves with them. Maybe try a bareback pad? They aren't crazy pricey and are a comfortable thing to use at least. I also enjoyed taking Blossom to playdays where we could run patterns in the arena without much pressure to actually do good. Blossom also loves working cattle, so sorting cows was a fun way to get more balanced with accelerating and making sudden chances of direction. Barrel racing was a fun thing we did, but I have to recommend using a younger horse or one that is used to speed events. I saw a kid almost get rolled over this summer because they took a short, fat quarter horse gelding out of retirement because he was gentle, and he had a heart attack running home on barrels. He started trip near the end of his run, fell forward, and flipped over. If the kid hadn't been ejected when he fell, she would have been crushed. He's not the only horse that I saw having some major problems this year, but his was the one that sat with me the most. There are a few horses in their early 20s that run at the plays I go to and they're totally fine, but they've been doing it for 10+ years and are used to the output it takes to accelerate and keep momentum in their turns. There's just been a couple that were older and used to light work that just couldn't handle it. Some went lame, some got upset and develvoped bad ally issues quickly, and a couple like that gelding started having heart problems. They still brought that gelding to a couple more playdays, but I didn't see him at the last 5 or more, so I don't know if they took his problem seriously or if he had an accident at home. Whenever it was Blossom's turn to run, I could feel her heartbeat in my stirrups going in because she was excited, but we started when she was 13 and did it for years, so I could take her back and run her again if the rest of my horses were out. She's just one of the last choices now that she's older because I'm paranoid that something might happen and I'd lose the horse that really got me going.
The bareback pad could be a great idea, I have a good one but I don't have any fear when riding with or without it. During the summer my favorite thing to do is race across the fields as fast as my horse can go. Sometimes I'll take my bridle off and run, but maybe I could ride in it not just to gallop in? Like work my horses bareback and feel them better when exercising them. And my older mare can take running barrels. She's been cleared by a vet and both of my trainers think she'll do just fine, I'm not going to be running her for quite some time, I'm just taking her to expos and letting her go at her pace. Thank you for worrying about her though, but I wouldn't do anything that she couldn't handle. |
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It seems like time is the realy antidote to your problem. You've removed the problem horse from the situation (although I hope whoever bought him can manage his behavior and doesn't get hurt). Set some small, manageable goals for yourself, like riding for 5 minutes a day in the English saddle for one week, then 10 minutes the next week and so on. It seems like you associate the English saddle with your experiences on the gray horse, so you need to change that association to something more positive (which is easier said than done). But I think if you keep at it and make riding in the English saddle a habit, then you'll be able to move past your fears! You might also find mantras, positive images, or other techniques like that to be helpful. Daniel Stewart has some books, lectures, etc on building confidence and sporst psychology in general that I would recommend. |
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I lost my confidence a while back to a dirty large pony. I am completely over it now and am jumping quite well again. So what exactly scares you about english? If it the tack, the way of riding, etc. (The more specific the better, lol) I have a few ideas on how to help you but it depends on you fear. |
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HMH Reality Check said:
I lost my confidence a while back to a dirty large pony. I am completely over it now and am jumping quite well again. So what exactly scares you about english? If it the tack, the way of riding, etc. (The more specific the better, lol) I have a few ideas on how to help you but it depends on you fear.
I'm not sure what exactly scares me, I guess it's how free the horse feels underneath me, and I guess I'm afraid that what ever horse I'm riding may rear up and act up. If I'm in a western saddle I'm not afraid of anything, even rearing but it's just an English saddle, maybe it's the close contact? I honestly have no idea why I'm afraid |
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Triple Ace Ranch said:
HMH Reality Check said:
I lost my confidence a while back to a dirty large pony. I am completely over it now and am jumping quite well again. So what exactly scares you about english? If it the tack, the way of riding, etc. (The more specific the better, lol) I have a few ideas on how to help you but it depends on you fear.
I'm not sure what exactly scares me, I guess it's how free the horse feels underneath me, and I guess I'm afraid that what ever horse I'm riding may rear up and act up. If I'm in a western saddle I'm not afraid of anything, even rearing but it's just an English saddle, maybe it's the close contact? I honestly have no idea why I'm afraid
Okay. Once a week put on something English, wether it be the clothes, the saddle, the bridle or all the the above, (saddle mainly). Ride the horse your most comfortable on and do something you normally do, Wether it's a trail ride or something western. Get used to the feel of the tack and become comfortable in it again. Once you reach that step try it on a different horse, one of your friends, or your trainers do the same thing (you don't have to do it a ton, once of twice if you have no problems) just do something easy, a nice trail ride or something simple in the arena. Then, if your still interested in the riding types of the English world, get back into it! |
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