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MakeEm Fancy
12:53:18 Ally 💜
Yeah she said she was completely blown off :/ said "he is just old" which in fact wasnt the case and he had Ehrlichiosis. He in fact did have a fever along with swollen joints. He was so sick. @Prism
Rainbow
12:50:00 Rainy/Prism/Chrome
Ally
Oof, yeah that's a terrible experience. TPR (temperature, pulse, respiration) should be taken at the beginning of every exam. The only reason I can think of to skip it is if the pet is very reactive and is a bite risk because of fear/temperament. That's when you send home a mild sedative and have them come back lol
Lynx Glory
12:44:24 ⛈ whisper/lynx
aww yeah, she does look much better now :)
MakeEm Fancy
12:44:04 Ally 💜
@lynx
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Lynx Glory
12:43:45 ⛈ whisper/lynx
she's so cute by the way <3
Lynx Glory
12:43:35 ⛈ whisper/lynx
wait ally, i missed the newer picture of baby kitty
MakeEm Fancy
12:42:47 Ally 💜
We have crappy vets around here unfortunately
MakeEm Fancy
12:41:47 Ally 💜
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MakeEm Fancy
12:41:26 Ally 💜
My mom just want to a vet because her dog was sick, the vet didnt take his temperature or do an exam on him basically blew her concerns of said he has arthritis and thats what it. She almost lost her dog because of the carelessness. She thankfully took him to a different vet and they knew immediately what was wrong
Angels angels
12:41:23 [1k+ brindles] Angel
Having bioactive reptile enclosures is so nice. I don't even have to clean them because the isopods and springtails breakdown the poop and even shed skin
Sunni
12:38:20 Sunni bunny
Had a nice hot bath now it's time to get groceries after I sit a second XD
I gotta figure out what I wanna eat today.
Rainbow
12:36:46 Rainy/Prism/Chrome
Ally
I'm not saying there are no bad vets, but every vet I have ever worked with/known really do care. It's a tough job and has one of the highest rates of self unaliving of any profession :(

But I get it, some are just not present or patient and just want to rush along. It sucks when you encounter those.
MakeEm Fancy
12:34:23 Ally 💜
Oh yes! I hate that she is walk in only but she is the only vet around here that seems to actually care about the well being of her patients
Rainbow
12:33:12 Rainy/Prism/Chrome
Ally
That's wonderful <3 a good relationship with your vet is so important, hang on to her!
MakeEm Fancy
12:31:44 Ally 💜
Thank you glacier :) she is a complete sweetheart
MakeEm Fancy
12:31:24 Ally 💜
Im so thankful for our vet! She has been amazing especially with how worried I have been with this kitten and her eye.
Glacier Bay Cove
12:31:20 Arctic Katz
Super adorable kitten, Ally
Rainbow
12:30:04 Rainy/Prism/Chrome
Ally
Veterinarians work some good medical magic <3 I used to work in vetmed and the vets I worked with were some of the bets people I've ever worked with.
Crestwood Eq.
12:29:22 Ivy / poison ivy
I'm gonna go now! Bye loves! <33

-ivy
MakeEm Fancy
12:28:56 Ally 💜
We thought she might need surgery but the vet came up with a game plan to switch antibiotics and her eye looks 10 times better.

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MakeEm Fancy
12:53:18 Ally 💜
Yeah she said she was completely blown off :/ said "he is just old" which in fact wasnt the case and he had Ehrlichiosis. He in fact did have a fever along with swollen joints. He was so sick. @Prism
Rainbow
12:50:00 Rainy/Prism/Chrome
Ally
Oof, yeah that's a terrible experience. TPR (temperature, pulse, respiration) should be taken at the beginning of every exam. The only reason I can think of to skip it is if the pet is very reactive and is a bite risk because of fear/temperament. That's when you send home a mild sedative and have them come back lol
Lynx Glory
12:44:24 ⛈ whisper/lynx
aww yeah, she does look much better now :)
MakeEm Fancy
12:44:04 Ally 💜
@lynx
-Click-
Lynx Glory
12:43:45 ⛈ whisper/lynx
she's so cute by the way <3
Lynx Glory
12:43:35 ⛈ whisper/lynx
wait ally, i missed the newer picture of baby kitty
MakeEm Fancy
12:42:47 Ally 💜
We have crappy vets around here unfortunately
MakeEm Fancy
12:41:47 Ally 💜
Off
MakeEm Fancy
12:41:26 Ally 💜
My mom just want to a vet because her dog was sick, the vet didnt take his temperature or do an exam on him basically blew her concerns of said he has arthritis and thats what it. She almost lost her dog because of the carelessness. She thankfully took him to a different vet and they knew immediately what was wrong
Angels angels
12:41:23 [1k+ brindles] Angel
Having bioactive reptile enclosures is so nice. I don't even have to clean them because the isopods and springtails breakdown the poop and even shed skin
Sunni
12:38:20 Sunni bunny
Had a nice hot bath now it's time to get groceries after I sit a second XD
I gotta figure out what I wanna eat today.
Rainbow
12:36:46 Rainy/Prism/Chrome
Ally
I'm not saying there are no bad vets, but every vet I have ever worked with/known really do care. It's a tough job and has one of the highest rates of self unaliving of any profession :(

But I get it, some are just not present or patient and just want to rush along. It sucks when you encounter those.
MakeEm Fancy
12:34:23 Ally 💜
Oh yes! I hate that she is walk in only but she is the only vet around here that seems to actually care about the well being of her patients
Rainbow
12:33:12 Rainy/Prism/Chrome
Ally
That's wonderful <3 a good relationship with your vet is so important, hang on to her!
MakeEm Fancy
12:31:44 Ally 💜
Thank you glacier :) she is a complete sweetheart
MakeEm Fancy
12:31:24 Ally 💜
Im so thankful for our vet! She has been amazing especially with how worried I have been with this kitten and her eye.
Glacier Bay Cove
12:31:20 Arctic Katz
Super adorable kitten, Ally
Rainbow
12:30:04 Rainy/Prism/Chrome
Ally
Veterinarians work some good medical magic <3 I used to work in vetmed and the vets I worked with were some of the bets people I've ever worked with.
Crestwood Eq.
12:29:22 Ivy / poison ivy
I'm gonna go now! Bye loves! <33

-ivy
MakeEm Fancy
12:28:56 Ally 💜
We thought she might need surgery but the vet came up with a game plan to switch antibiotics and her eye looks 10 times better.

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Bell’s pricing guide January 11, 2020 07:02 PM


Phantasm Farm
 
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How to price your art.

There’s been a lot of questions recently about pricing art and I thought I’d share how I go about my pricing that I have developed over the years.

Pricing depends on your artistic abilities to fill out any potential orders. If you set yourself a price based on the quality of your example work but then can’t complete an order to the quality of your example work then there is a pricing discrepancy and should be reviewed.

These are the questions I have asked myself over the years to determine my own pricing.

Can I neatly cut out horse stock and place it on a background?

Can I get the horse stock to look like it fits on the background and look natural?

If you said yes to both these questions add 30K onto your start price. These two steps are the base fundamentals for getting a piece to work.

Can I confidently colour change a horse from the three base coats to another base coat? (Black, bay or Chestnut)

Can I add white markings (including roan or minimal paint)?

Can I alter the lighting of the horse and add highlights and low lights neatly?

Can I remove tack neatly?

Can I make the mane and tail look flowy and like hair (doesn’t matter if it’s smudged or painted).

If you can do the majority of these steps I’d list you as a tier two artist and price work between 80-100K

If you can do some of these steps price your work between 40-80k.

These are the basic fundamentals for art. Once you master these, onwards and upwards!

Can I confidently colour change any horse colour to the desired coat?

Can I add extreme white markings or fantasy style markings while keeping underlying details?

Can I fully rework a mane or tail to my desired aesthetic?

Do I have the ability to make the horse interact with items or animals in my piece?

If you said yes to most of these questions then I’d consider you a Tier 1 artist.

Base Price is 100K and going upwards based on ability and technical expertise.

The most important question is:

Am I confident that I’ll be able to fulfil most art requests/orders to my standard of work for customer satisfaction, for the price that I am asking?

If you are very confident in your abilities to meet and fulfil any orders and you have a pleasing aesthetic style I’d price art at 250K upwards if your shop is constantly filling up with orders.

Some things to keep in mind as you choose a price for your art.

Since coming back to HEE, considering my own ability and my amount of time to create HEE art, I always charge a fee for my time when doing a piece, this is included in the price. This depends on my available time for the foreseeable future and how sought after art is.

Everyone has their own distinctive style and growth, this is what makes the art community so great! Just because your style doesn’t fit the conventional norms doesn’t mean it’s not appreciated or valued.

A good understanding of anatomy and movement I find is the biggest difference in making an art piece good or great. Often times artists will need to repaint or add in details. Understanding the fundamental planes of the face and body is paramount in this. This is also important in body modifications.

Just because you can technically complete an order doesn’t mean you have too. Sometimes you have orders that goes against your artistic muse greatly. It’s alright to talk to the person and see if they will change their order or in some cases cancel.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask and I'll do my best to answer them.


Edited at January 13, 2020 02:39 AM by Phantasm Farm
Bell’s pricing guide January 12, 2020 07:26 AM


Sunset Grove Farm
 
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This ussher helpful bell thanks so much!
Bell’s pricing guide January 12, 2020 10:31 AM

Vintage valley
 
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Ahh, thank you so much!
However, I have a question.
I'm kinda stuck. I got passed the first 'stages' (30k). I can do 4/5 on the second (40-80k), but I can also do 3/5 on the 100k+.
So, I'm guessing to stay within the 40-80k range, but I would like some opinions xD
Bell’s pricing guide January 12, 2020 12:31 PM

Former Stable
 
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Ethereal Eventers said:
Ahh, thank you so much!
However, I have a question.
I'm kinda stuck. I got passed the first 'stages' (30k). I can do 4/5 on the second (40-80k), but I can also do 3/5 on the 100k+.
So, I'm guessing to stay within the 40-80k range, but I would like some opinions xD


^^Curious
Bell’s pricing guide January 13, 2020 08:35 PM


Phantasm Farm
 
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Ethereal Eventers said:
Ahh, thank you so much!
However, I have a question.
I'm kinda stuck. I got passed the first 'stages' (30k). I can do 4/5 on the second (40-80k), but I can also do 3/5 on the 100k+.
So, I'm guessing to stay within the 40-80k range, but I would like some opinions xD


Ethereal for the moment I’d stick between the 30-60K range.
While your cuts are nice and neat, your grounding needs more work and I think this is what’s holding you back. The main thing with grounding is to make sure the horse looks part of the landscape. This means that your horses have shadows or if they’re standing in water have reflections. The background tone and horse tone must also match. So if you have a blue themed background you colour balance or correct the horse so it also has a blue tone for example. Try to get the background lighting and horse lighting to match up as well as that will also have a huge effect in grounding.
It’s great that you’re practising and incorporating technical points from all the questions. The only way to get better is to practise. I would really try to master each bunch of questions before you go up a tier as it helps raise your confidence in your abilities as an artist while teaching you the fundamentals.
If you feel like you’re ready to raise your prices go ahead, I have raised and then lowered prices before so I can get the best value for my artwork. If you feel like you don’t get enough business after raising prices simply lower them again to a mid value between the original price and the raised price.
Bell’s pricing guide January 13, 2020 08:44 PM

Former Stable
 
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Thanks, this is really helpful <3. I feel like I burn out when I only charge 35k for pieces that I spend a lot of time on. This gives me a checklist of things to work on :)

Bell’s pricing guide January 13, 2020 08:59 PM


Jellos Warmbloods
 
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*taps finger to lip*

Hmmmmm.

I think according to this im in the 40k range. XD

Bell’s pricing guide January 13, 2020 10:22 PM

Vintage valley
 
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Phantasm Farm said:

Ethereal Eventers said:
Ahh, thank you so much!
However, I have a question.
I'm kinda stuck. I got passed the first 'stages' (30k). I can do 4/5 on the second (40-80k), but I can also do 3/5 on the 100k+.
So, I'm guessing to stay within the 40-80k range, but I would like some opinions xD


Ethereal for the moment I’d stick between the 30-60K range.
While your cuts are nice and neat, your grounding needs more work and I think this is what’s holding you back. The main thing with grounding is to make sure the horse looks part of the landscape. This means that your horses have shadows or if they’re standing in water have reflections. The background tone and horse tone must also match. So if you have a blue themed background you colour balance or correct the horse so it also has a blue tone for example. Try to get the background lighting and horse lighting to match up as well as that will also have a huge effect in grounding.
It’s great that you’re practising and incorporating technical points from all the questions. The only way to get better is to practise. I would really try to master each bunch of questions before you go up a tier as it helps raise your confidence in your abilities as an artist while teaching you the fundamentals.
If you feel like you’re ready to raise your prices go ahead, I have raised and then lowered prices before so I can get the best value for my artwork. If you feel like you don’t get enough business after raising prices simply lower them again to a mid value between the original price and the raised price.


Wowsa, thank you so much! My most recents haven't been my best works, and I will definitely use this to help. Very so much appreciated!
Bell’s pricing guide January 17, 2020 05:34 AM


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This is super helpful! Thank you!
Bell’s pricing guide February 11, 2020 08:19 PM


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I'll definitely reference this when I open up my shop. Thank you!

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