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Dash and Duchess
05:44:57 DD | ~Squizard~
Min, yeah I'm leaning towards it xD
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Capp, yup 🥲 I've been straw stalking so I'm hoping I'll find one by RO lol!
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KPH, yeah, the SbSb is scaring me too xD
Bug in a Rug
05:43:18 Bug | Flea | KPH
DD
ooh, I like that training-wise, but the chance of SbSb is a little off-putting >.<
Cappuccino
05:43:09 Heyy it's Capp
Tesoro will be retired :-( unless you’ve got a straw
Minerva
05:42:48 Min
I'd do silver splash myself DD
Dash and Duchess
05:42:45 DD | ~Squizard~
*try Why autocorrect?? Hit? Really 😭
Dash and Duchess
05:42:12 DD | ~Squizard~
Ooo I forgot, do I hit for the possible Zz frame...or try for Zz splash, but higher LB with tesoro ?
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Cappuccino
05:41:21 Heyy it's Capp
How many keepers do you usually have? I breed +/- 50 keepers a month and 3 up is still an excitement not expectation.
NightClan
05:41:05 Night
Jester,
Yeah I'd probably add scp in
Bug in a Rug
05:40:56 Bug | Flea | KPH
imp
same xD I try to keep all up or 2 up with shine >>
Minerva
05:40:33 Min
Blimey you're well ahead of most of us then xD I've had a few all up but not many!
KPH Equestrian
05:40:24 Rapcoon | Jester
night
hm, you could with a scope glass I think
Mountain Ridge Farms
05:40:08 
Question: Would it be profitable to buy an arena to host shows? Or do you think it'd be a waste of ebs?
Imperial Warmbloods
05:39:59 Imp/Impie/Impy
~ Min
I usually only keep all up for week 3s for my boys, that`s why, xd
Dunhill Farms
05:39:53 Colorful Capp
….2 up week 3 is strong for SD
Angels angels
05:39:23 [1k+ brindles] Angel
Em
Yeah it could be an issue
Minerva
05:38:43 Min
Imp why has it been bothering you? 2 up in 3 is decent
High Ridge Meadows
05:38:13 
Dash
Thanks!
Dash and Duchess
05:37:54 DD | ~Squizard~
High ridge, Ooo huge congrats on her!!
Imperial Warmbloods
05:37:50 Imp/Impie/Impy
His week 3 has been bothering me for forever, lol
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NightClan
05:37:32 Night
Speaking of shine, this could give me a nice apricot foal...what do we think? Her training is hard to mess with lol
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Dash and Duchess
05:44:57 DD | ~Squizard~
Min, yeah I'm leaning towards it xD
-
Capp, yup 🥲 I've been straw stalking so I'm hoping I'll find one by RO lol!
-
KPH, yeah, the SbSb is scaring me too xD
Bug in a Rug
05:43:18 Bug | Flea | KPH
DD
ooh, I like that training-wise, but the chance of SbSb is a little off-putting >.<
Cappuccino
05:43:09 Heyy it's Capp
Tesoro will be retired :-( unless you’ve got a straw
Minerva
05:42:48 Min
I'd do silver splash myself DD
Dash and Duchess
05:42:45 DD | ~Squizard~
*try Why autocorrect?? Hit? Really 😭
Dash and Duchess
05:42:12 DD | ~Squizard~
Ooo I forgot, do I hit for the possible Zz frame...or try for Zz splash, but higher LB with tesoro ?
-HEE Click-
Cappuccino
05:41:21 Heyy it's Capp
How many keepers do you usually have? I breed +/- 50 keepers a month and 3 up is still an excitement not expectation.
NightClan
05:41:05 Night
Jester,
Yeah I'd probably add scp in
Bug in a Rug
05:40:56 Bug | Flea | KPH
imp
same xD I try to keep all up or 2 up with shine >>
Minerva
05:40:33 Min
Blimey you're well ahead of most of us then xD I've had a few all up but not many!
KPH Equestrian
05:40:24 Rapcoon | Jester
night
hm, you could with a scope glass I think
Mountain Ridge Farms
05:40:08 
Question: Would it be profitable to buy an arena to host shows? Or do you think it'd be a waste of ebs?
Imperial Warmbloods
05:39:59 Imp/Impie/Impy
~ Min
I usually only keep all up for week 3s for my boys, that`s why, xd
Dunhill Farms
05:39:53 Colorful Capp
….2 up week 3 is strong for SD
Angels angels
05:39:23 [1k+ brindles] Angel
Em
Yeah it could be an issue
Minerva
05:38:43 Min
Imp why has it been bothering you? 2 up in 3 is decent
High Ridge Meadows
05:38:13 
Dash
Thanks!
Dash and Duchess
05:37:54 DD | ~Squizard~
High ridge, Ooo huge congrats on her!!
Imperial Warmbloods
05:37:50 Imp/Impie/Impy
His week 3 has been bothering me for forever, lol
-HEE Click-
NightClan
05:37:32 Night
Speaking of shine, this could give me a nice apricot foal...what do we think? Her training is hard to mess with lol
-HEE Click-

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Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:21 PM


Eastwood Acres
 
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I'm not to good with genetics and just tested her. If someone can help I'd like to know if there's anything special or noteworthy about her genetics :) Thank you in advance!

Edited at February 25, 2024 04:21 PM by Eastwood Acres
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:27 PM


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Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:39 PM


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The Joker said:
Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!


Thank you so much! I appreciate it a lot :)
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 05:01 PM


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Eastwood Acres said:

The Joker said:
Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!


Thank you so much! I appreciate it a lot :)


Of course! Happy to help :) I believe the amber part of her colour is caused by her base colour of Ee which would usually be bay/brown, I may be incorrect though and it may be linked to the agouti gene instead
Genetic Help February 26, 2024 01:28 PM


Clear Springs
 
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Champagnes have weird color names.
Gold Champagne = Chestnut (ee ??) + Champagne gene
Amber Champagne = Bay (E?A?) + Champagne gene
Sable Champagne = Brown (E?At?) + Champagne gene
Classic Champagne = Black (E?aa)+ Champagne gene

So the "Amber" part of her color just means she would be a plain bay horse without the Champagne gene. She's E(black-based) A(agouti) plus Ch(Champagne). She also has that At gene in there which doesn't show on her, but means she could have a brown foal.

The Extension (E/e) gene just determines if a horse is black-based or red-based. If the horse has at least one E gene it's black-based, if ee it's red-based. All horse colors are one or the other with modifiers added for colors besides Black and Chestnut.

The Agouti (A/At/a) gene here is considered only active in black-based horses, so a horse that is red-based (ee) won't express it no matter what alleles are present. What it does is restrict where on the horse black pigment is fully expressed. It limits actual black to the "points" of the horse and leaves the body lacking enough pigment to be truly black, so it's just sort of a faded black color (which appears red, but isn't). So a horse with E?A? is the full-on Agouti color we call "bay" with black points and reddish body. A horse with E?At? has more expression of pigment on the body, has brown "highlights" on the nose, flank, etc and black points and is called "brown". A horse with E?aa is black all over with no restriction from the Agouti gene.

So now we have what E/e and A/At/a are and what they mean to horse colors, you can take all those and apply the modifiers like the white-spotting patterns (Tobiano, Sabino, Frame), Roan, Dun, etc and add in that Champagne has those weird names and so does Cream(CcrC) (Chestnut + Cream = Palomino, Bay + Cream = Buckskin, Brown + Cream = Brown Buckskin, Black + Cream = Smoky Black) and Double Cream(CcrCcr) (Chestnut = Cremello, Bay/Brown = Perlino, Black = Smoky Cream).

Most of the genes here are dominantly-expressed (the capital letter means the horse has that trait), but Pearl is recessive (a horse must have prlprl to be Pearl) and Agouti has 3 alleles, where A overrides the other two, At only overrides a and aa means "non-Agouti).

Hope that helps some people who are still a bit confused. Variable color names don't help. It's like the gene that's called merle in every other dog breed is called dapple in dachshunds. You just have to learn the color names and roll with it.

Edited at February 26, 2024 02:06 PM by Clear Springs
Genetic Help February 26, 2024 10:38 PM


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Clear Springs said:
Champagnes have weird color names.
Gold Champagne = Chestnut (ee ??) + Champagne gene
Amber Champagne = Bay (E?A?) + Champagne gene
Sable Champagne = Brown (E?At?) + Champagne gene
Classic Champagne = Black (E?aa)+ Champagne gene

So the "Amber" part of her color just means she would be a plain bay horse without the Champagne gene. She's E(black-based) A(agouti) plus Ch(Champagne). She also has that At gene in there which doesn't show on her, but means she could have a brown foal.

The Extension (E/e) gene just determines if a horse is black-based or red-based. If the horse has at least one E gene it's black-based, if ee it's red-based. All horse colors are one or the other with modifiers added for colors besides Black and Chestnut.

The Agouti (A/At/a) gene here is considered only active in black-based horses, so a horse that is red-based (ee) won't express it no matter what alleles are present. What it does is restrict where on the horse black pigment is fully expressed. It limits actual black to the "points" of the horse and leaves the body lacking enough pigment to be truly black, so it's just sort of a faded black color (which appears red, but isn't). So a horse with E?A? is the full-on Agouti color we call "bay" with black points and reddish body. A horse with E?At? has more expression of pigment on the body, has brown "highlights" on the nose, flank, etc and black points and is called "brown". A horse with E?aa is black all over with no restriction from the Agouti gene.

So now we have what E/e and A/At/a are and what they mean to horse colors, you can take all those and apply the modifiers like the white-spotting patterns (Tobiano, Sabino, Frame), Roan, Dun, etc and add in that Champagne has those weird names and so does Cream(CcrC) (Chestnut + Cream = Palomino, Bay + Cream = Buckskin, Brown + Cream = Brown Buckskin, Black + Cream = Smoky Black) and Double Cream(CcrCcr) (Chestnut = Cremello, Bay/Brown = Perlino, Black = Smoky Cream).

Most of the genes here are dominantly-expressed (the capital letter means the horse has that trait), but Pearl is recessive (a horse must have prlprl to be Pearl) and Agouti has 3 alleles, where A overrides the other two, At only overrides a and aa means "non-Agouti).

Hope that helps some people who are still a bit confused. Variable color names don't help. It's like the gene that's called merle in every other dog breed is called dapple in dachshunds. You just have to learn the color names and roll with it.


Thank you!

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