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Ravenwood Farm
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Em That's very pretty!
Insignia Elites
05:13:15 Em
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Look at this one I have!
Wild_Potatoes
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Never knew the sport horses could be Appaloosa patterned. Soooo cool though
ZequineZ
04:23:36 ZEZ - ZZ
Oldest file I have is from 2013 I think, I have one from around then with old YouTube links that nolonger work 😢
Black Dragon Stable
04:21:43 BDS / Black / Stormy
4:30 AM here... about my bedtime, I'm thinking. Working nightshift when you're a daylight lover sucks.
Calela Eventing
04:18:31 Cali
Just bred my first silver! Awful ratings but he's so cute!
Minerva
04:15:05 Min
Not chimera I don't think but beautiful dapples
Black Dragon Stable
04:15:03 BDS / Black / Stormy
Sorry, it's not a chimi
Wild_Potatoes
04:13:00 
I think it’s chimera to
Wild_Potatoes
04:12:10 
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Omg my first ever home bred Lace
Black Dragon Stable
04:12:10 BDS / Black / Stormy
I have no idea how many I have sitting and chilling. I've never kept count. Some are hand written as well.
Calela Eventing
04:11:01 Cali
Stormy
I have over 100 abandoned WIPs
The novel I'm currently writing has my heart though and I'm praying I'll be able to publish it
Minerva
04:08:06 Min
Agreed Stormy. I stopped naming anything for a few months so I had hundreds with their foal names haha. Spent the last little while going through barn by barn to sort them out
Black Dragon Stable
04:07:33 BDS / Black / Stormy
It's one of many of my old files... I literally still have the very first flash drive I ever bought.. And that was probably back around the same time as this file is from.
Checkers Catch
04:06:53 
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Bravery is disappointing but for no map. I’m shocked
Black Dragon Stable
04:06:24 BDS / Black / Stormy
Going through and naming my horses is a major pita... and all I'm doing is putting their breed, rating, year born, and reg number. Slow going since I've been avoiding naming forever. (My EEE+ horses get actual names)
ZequineZ
04:05:53 ZEZ - ZZ
God damn that’s an old file
Black Dragon Stable
04:02:53 BDS / Black / Stormy
I checked the date on it, and it was last saved back in 2010. lmao.
Calela Eventing
04:01:50 Cali
Stormy
Oh, you poor soul
Black Dragon Stable
03:55:08 BDS / Black / Stormy
I found a 70k word document on an old flash drive and was excited... but it was nothing but drivel. I read it and it's currently living rent free in my head while I view it from multiple angles as I try to figure out how to 'fix' it. lol.

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Ravenwood Farm
05:18:22 
Em That's very pretty!
Insignia Elites
05:13:15 Em
-HEE Click-
Look at this one I have!
Wild_Potatoes
04:24:26 
-HEE Click-
Never knew the sport horses could be Appaloosa patterned. Soooo cool though
ZequineZ
04:23:36 ZEZ - ZZ
Oldest file I have is from 2013 I think, I have one from around then with old YouTube links that nolonger work 😢
Black Dragon Stable
04:21:43 BDS / Black / Stormy
4:30 AM here... about my bedtime, I'm thinking. Working nightshift when you're a daylight lover sucks.
Calela Eventing
04:18:31 Cali
Just bred my first silver! Awful ratings but he's so cute!
Minerva
04:15:05 Min
Not chimera I don't think but beautiful dapples
Black Dragon Stable
04:15:03 BDS / Black / Stormy
Sorry, it's not a chimi
Wild_Potatoes
04:13:00 
I think it’s chimera to
Wild_Potatoes
04:12:10 
-HEE Click-
Omg my first ever home bred Lace
Black Dragon Stable
04:12:10 BDS / Black / Stormy
I have no idea how many I have sitting and chilling. I've never kept count. Some are hand written as well.
Calela Eventing
04:11:01 Cali
Stormy
I have over 100 abandoned WIPs
The novel I'm currently writing has my heart though and I'm praying I'll be able to publish it
Minerva
04:08:06 Min
Agreed Stormy. I stopped naming anything for a few months so I had hundreds with their foal names haha. Spent the last little while going through barn by barn to sort them out
Black Dragon Stable
04:07:33 BDS / Black / Stormy
It's one of many of my old files... I literally still have the very first flash drive I ever bought.. And that was probably back around the same time as this file is from.
Checkers Catch
04:06:53 
-HEE Click-
Bravery is disappointing but for no map. I’m shocked
Black Dragon Stable
04:06:24 BDS / Black / Stormy
Going through and naming my horses is a major pita... and all I'm doing is putting their breed, rating, year born, and reg number. Slow going since I've been avoiding naming forever. (My EEE+ horses get actual names)
ZequineZ
04:05:53 ZEZ - ZZ
God damn that’s an old file
Black Dragon Stable
04:02:53 BDS / Black / Stormy
I checked the date on it, and it was last saved back in 2010. lmao.
Calela Eventing
04:01:50 Cali
Stormy
Oh, you poor soul
Black Dragon Stable
03:55:08 BDS / Black / Stormy
I found a 70k word document on an old flash drive and was excited... but it was nothing but drivel. I read it and it's currently living rent free in my head while I view it from multiple angles as I try to figure out how to 'fix' it. lol.

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Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:21 PM


Eastwood Acres
 
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I'm not to good with genetics and just tested her. If someone can help I'd like to know if there's anything special or noteworthy about her genetics :) Thank you in advance!

Edited at February 25, 2024 04:21 PM by Eastwood Acres
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:27 PM


The Joker

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Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:39 PM


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The Joker said:
Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!


Thank you so much! I appreciate it a lot :)
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 05:01 PM


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Eastwood Acres said:

The Joker said:
Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!


Thank you so much! I appreciate it a lot :)


Of course! Happy to help :) I believe the amber part of her colour is caused by her base colour of Ee which would usually be bay/brown, I may be incorrect though and it may be linked to the agouti gene instead
Genetic Help February 26, 2024 01:28 PM


Clear Springs
 
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Champagnes have weird color names.
Gold Champagne = Chestnut (ee ??) + Champagne gene
Amber Champagne = Bay (E?A?) + Champagne gene
Sable Champagne = Brown (E?At?) + Champagne gene
Classic Champagne = Black (E?aa)+ Champagne gene

So the "Amber" part of her color just means she would be a plain bay horse without the Champagne gene. She's E(black-based) A(agouti) plus Ch(Champagne). She also has that At gene in there which doesn't show on her, but means she could have a brown foal.

The Extension (E/e) gene just determines if a horse is black-based or red-based. If the horse has at least one E gene it's black-based, if ee it's red-based. All horse colors are one or the other with modifiers added for colors besides Black and Chestnut.

The Agouti (A/At/a) gene here is considered only active in black-based horses, so a horse that is red-based (ee) won't express it no matter what alleles are present. What it does is restrict where on the horse black pigment is fully expressed. It limits actual black to the "points" of the horse and leaves the body lacking enough pigment to be truly black, so it's just sort of a faded black color (which appears red, but isn't). So a horse with E?A? is the full-on Agouti color we call "bay" with black points and reddish body. A horse with E?At? has more expression of pigment on the body, has brown "highlights" on the nose, flank, etc and black points and is called "brown". A horse with E?aa is black all over with no restriction from the Agouti gene.

So now we have what E/e and A/At/a are and what they mean to horse colors, you can take all those and apply the modifiers like the white-spotting patterns (Tobiano, Sabino, Frame), Roan, Dun, etc and add in that Champagne has those weird names and so does Cream(CcrC) (Chestnut + Cream = Palomino, Bay + Cream = Buckskin, Brown + Cream = Brown Buckskin, Black + Cream = Smoky Black) and Double Cream(CcrCcr) (Chestnut = Cremello, Bay/Brown = Perlino, Black = Smoky Cream).

Most of the genes here are dominantly-expressed (the capital letter means the horse has that trait), but Pearl is recessive (a horse must have prlprl to be Pearl) and Agouti has 3 alleles, where A overrides the other two, At only overrides a and aa means "non-Agouti).

Hope that helps some people who are still a bit confused. Variable color names don't help. It's like the gene that's called merle in every other dog breed is called dapple in dachshunds. You just have to learn the color names and roll with it.

Edited at February 26, 2024 02:06 PM by Clear Springs
Genetic Help February 26, 2024 10:38 PM


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Clear Springs said:
Champagnes have weird color names.
Gold Champagne = Chestnut (ee ??) + Champagne gene
Amber Champagne = Bay (E?A?) + Champagne gene
Sable Champagne = Brown (E?At?) + Champagne gene
Classic Champagne = Black (E?aa)+ Champagne gene

So the "Amber" part of her color just means she would be a plain bay horse without the Champagne gene. She's E(black-based) A(agouti) plus Ch(Champagne). She also has that At gene in there which doesn't show on her, but means she could have a brown foal.

The Extension (E/e) gene just determines if a horse is black-based or red-based. If the horse has at least one E gene it's black-based, if ee it's red-based. All horse colors are one or the other with modifiers added for colors besides Black and Chestnut.

The Agouti (A/At/a) gene here is considered only active in black-based horses, so a horse that is red-based (ee) won't express it no matter what alleles are present. What it does is restrict where on the horse black pigment is fully expressed. It limits actual black to the "points" of the horse and leaves the body lacking enough pigment to be truly black, so it's just sort of a faded black color (which appears red, but isn't). So a horse with E?A? is the full-on Agouti color we call "bay" with black points and reddish body. A horse with E?At? has more expression of pigment on the body, has brown "highlights" on the nose, flank, etc and black points and is called "brown". A horse with E?aa is black all over with no restriction from the Agouti gene.

So now we have what E/e and A/At/a are and what they mean to horse colors, you can take all those and apply the modifiers like the white-spotting patterns (Tobiano, Sabino, Frame), Roan, Dun, etc and add in that Champagne has those weird names and so does Cream(CcrC) (Chestnut + Cream = Palomino, Bay + Cream = Buckskin, Brown + Cream = Brown Buckskin, Black + Cream = Smoky Black) and Double Cream(CcrCcr) (Chestnut = Cremello, Bay/Brown = Perlino, Black = Smoky Cream).

Most of the genes here are dominantly-expressed (the capital letter means the horse has that trait), but Pearl is recessive (a horse must have prlprl to be Pearl) and Agouti has 3 alleles, where A overrides the other two, At only overrides a and aa means "non-Agouti).

Hope that helps some people who are still a bit confused. Variable color names don't help. It's like the gene that's called merle in every other dog breed is called dapple in dachshunds. You just have to learn the color names and roll with it.


Thank you!

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