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Minerva
01:40:50 Min
Haha I'll put a bit less pressure on myself then thank you. I'm hoping to get some poles before the end of the year so we can do some proprioception work because my goodness that boy doesn't know where his feet are xD Plus side is he doesn't mind things being around his legs whatsoever since he's so used to wandering into things
Pentagram Stables
01:40:06 Penta - KNNs
No lines, and no chasing. You just don't know our way and I'll leave it at that.
Boulder Creek
01:39:59 
I wasn't a super fan of Warwick until I saw an article heading that said something like Let Your Horse Approach You
(Yes literally only read the title)
And it's made a Huge improvement in my interactions with the horses at the barn.
I can have the stall door open and have them between me at it (huge outdoor pen) and they will chose to come to me and boop my hand without any interaction besides standing still.

And I saw a video where he said don't touch the horse until they touch you and they will tell you where to touch

(Some of it feels woowoo, but it's making a difference in the relationships between the horses and I)
Red Horizon Ranch
01:38:37 Red
Yeah of course, it’s definitely a trust the process kind of exercise you have to be patient and you’ll feel like you’re not doing anything but worth it. I enjoy when training feels more collaborative with our animal friends, worth the time it takes
FirstLightFarms
01:37:19 puck
And seconding Warwick Schiller, he's one of the few clinicians I really respect.
FirstLightFarms
01:36:44 puck
Awww good pony! It just sounds like typical laziness/not being confident enough to carry himself forward. He'll get there!
Minerva
01:35:18 Min
Ooh I'll have a look at that one, thanks Red!
Minerva
01:34:16 Min
Haha exactly Puck! I'm hoping the more we go out the more keen he'll be to get on with it. He's a very good chap overall- and he's even happy to walk out in front of Minnie if I've got someone to lead her. He met his first tractor last night and was a 10/10 brave boy bless him
FirstLightFarms
01:34:09 puck
Unless your lunge lunge is 200 feet long it's gonna be a small circle lol
Red Horizon Ranch
01:33:01 Red
And no chasing, showing them who’s boss, etc. necessary. I really don’t enjoy having to do that kind of thing and good news, you really basically never have to XD
Pentagram Stables
01:32:36 Penta - KNNs
I said nothing about small circles, but whatever.
We have a different view of how to do things with 2 yr olds.
Red Horizon Ranch
01:31:35 Red
I really like Warwick Schiller’s “leading with energy” exercise for staying in the right position/responsiveness when leading, my mate was so “lazy” seeming and wanted to be directly behind me while leading, would pin her ears and swish tail when asked to go forward, it worked incredibly well
Minerva
01:31:33 Min
To be honest the maximum I'd ever lunge any horse is like 20 minutes, and that would be their entire work for the day. It has it's place but isn't my preferred method for anything
FirstLightFarms
01:30:53 puck
Min, he sounds like my pony! Just needs to learn a little responsibility about walking forward instead of being dragged every step 😂
FirstLightFarms
01:30:05 puck
Yeah it'd hurt, small circles are the worst for babies. Great way to do damage to their joints. And chasing a horse on the line isnt exactly the best way to establish you're in charge 🙃
Minerva
01:29:48 Min
That's great Puck, thank you! He naturally likes to put himself behind me, although we've been working on that and he's much happier walking out nicely now. When we're out and about he plants a few times right at the start, then likes to march. He's definitely more of a woah than go pony, which will be great when I'm backing him in a few years, but not ideal with ride and lead haha
Red Horizon Ranch
01:29:28 Red
Going in circles for more than a few minutes is not good for baby joints
Pentagram Stables
01:28:14 Penta - KNNs
Creek - it's not like he'd be asked to canter, or even trot for an entire hour. lol
It wouldn't hurt him any, and he might just get the idea who's in charge.
Minerva
01:26:11 Min
Yeah he's lost his treat privileges sadly- we do scratches as rewards now and he gets a lick for big things like farrier
FirstLightFarms
01:25:23 puck
Babies are so lazy and uncertain lmao. I hate ponying the greenies.
When you walk him on foot, does he follow you or walk at your shoulder? Do you have to drag him or does he move off/ respond to your energy without the rope getting involved?
Work on getting him a little lighter on the lead rope on the ground, and that should translate into ponying.
And if nothing else, stand still on your pony and bump bump with the lead rope until he's at your knee. Then step forward, bump bump until he's at your knee. He does not get a release until his head is at your knee. Even if you get on and take one step at a time for a ride or so, eventually he'll realize its easier to just walk forward and stay at your knee than it is to be dragged behind.

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Minerva
01:40:50 Min
Haha I'll put a bit less pressure on myself then thank you. I'm hoping to get some poles before the end of the year so we can do some proprioception work because my goodness that boy doesn't know where his feet are xD Plus side is he doesn't mind things being around his legs whatsoever since he's so used to wandering into things
Pentagram Stables
01:40:06 Penta - KNNs
No lines, and no chasing. You just don't know our way and I'll leave it at that.
Boulder Creek
01:39:59 
I wasn't a super fan of Warwick until I saw an article heading that said something like Let Your Horse Approach You
(Yes literally only read the title)
And it's made a Huge improvement in my interactions with the horses at the barn.
I can have the stall door open and have them between me at it (huge outdoor pen) and they will chose to come to me and boop my hand without any interaction besides standing still.

And I saw a video where he said don't touch the horse until they touch you and they will tell you where to touch

(Some of it feels woowoo, but it's making a difference in the relationships between the horses and I)
Red Horizon Ranch
01:38:37 Red
Yeah of course, it’s definitely a trust the process kind of exercise you have to be patient and you’ll feel like you’re not doing anything but worth it. I enjoy when training feels more collaborative with our animal friends, worth the time it takes
FirstLightFarms
01:37:19 puck
And seconding Warwick Schiller, he's one of the few clinicians I really respect.
FirstLightFarms
01:36:44 puck
Awww good pony! It just sounds like typical laziness/not being confident enough to carry himself forward. He'll get there!
Minerva
01:35:18 Min
Ooh I'll have a look at that one, thanks Red!
Minerva
01:34:16 Min
Haha exactly Puck! I'm hoping the more we go out the more keen he'll be to get on with it. He's a very good chap overall- and he's even happy to walk out in front of Minnie if I've got someone to lead her. He met his first tractor last night and was a 10/10 brave boy bless him
FirstLightFarms
01:34:09 puck
Unless your lunge lunge is 200 feet long it's gonna be a small circle lol
Red Horizon Ranch
01:33:01 Red
And no chasing, showing them who’s boss, etc. necessary. I really don’t enjoy having to do that kind of thing and good news, you really basically never have to XD
Pentagram Stables
01:32:36 Penta - KNNs
I said nothing about small circles, but whatever.
We have a different view of how to do things with 2 yr olds.
Red Horizon Ranch
01:31:35 Red
I really like Warwick Schiller’s “leading with energy” exercise for staying in the right position/responsiveness when leading, my mate was so “lazy” seeming and wanted to be directly behind me while leading, would pin her ears and swish tail when asked to go forward, it worked incredibly well
Minerva
01:31:33 Min
To be honest the maximum I'd ever lunge any horse is like 20 minutes, and that would be their entire work for the day. It has it's place but isn't my preferred method for anything
FirstLightFarms
01:30:53 puck
Min, he sounds like my pony! Just needs to learn a little responsibility about walking forward instead of being dragged every step 😂
FirstLightFarms
01:30:05 puck
Yeah it'd hurt, small circles are the worst for babies. Great way to do damage to their joints. And chasing a horse on the line isnt exactly the best way to establish you're in charge 🙃
Minerva
01:29:48 Min
That's great Puck, thank you! He naturally likes to put himself behind me, although we've been working on that and he's much happier walking out nicely now. When we're out and about he plants a few times right at the start, then likes to march. He's definitely more of a woah than go pony, which will be great when I'm backing him in a few years, but not ideal with ride and lead haha
Red Horizon Ranch
01:29:28 Red
Going in circles for more than a few minutes is not good for baby joints
Pentagram Stables
01:28:14 Penta - KNNs
Creek - it's not like he'd be asked to canter, or even trot for an entire hour. lol
It wouldn't hurt him any, and he might just get the idea who's in charge.
Minerva
01:26:11 Min
Yeah he's lost his treat privileges sadly- we do scratches as rewards now and he gets a lick for big things like farrier
FirstLightFarms
01:25:23 puck
Babies are so lazy and uncertain lmao. I hate ponying the greenies.
When you walk him on foot, does he follow you or walk at your shoulder? Do you have to drag him or does he move off/ respond to your energy without the rope getting involved?
Work on getting him a little lighter on the lead rope on the ground, and that should translate into ponying.
And if nothing else, stand still on your pony and bump bump with the lead rope until he's at your knee. Then step forward, bump bump until he's at your knee. He does not get a release until his head is at your knee. Even if you get on and take one step at a time for a ride or so, eventually he'll realize its easier to just walk forward and stay at your knee than it is to be dragged behind.

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   Tier/Pricing December 27, 2022 09:46 PM


Florestä
 
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Edited at December 28, 2022 10:03 AM by Floresta
Tier/Pricing December 27, 2022 08:54 PM


Florestä
 
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Honestly just trying to figure out where to put myself in the rumble and what to set my SB and ABs at, and while we're at it, any critique is welcome (I really want to improve- I would love help!).
. . .
I think tier three, maybe tier two (I see a lot of artists put themselves in a super high tier for what their work is, so I'm trying not to be one of those people and stay unbiased 😅).
...
I've had my auctions get ABed recently at 150k and 250k within 10 hours of being up, but I feel like auctions tend to go for a little more than commissions?
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Examples of my work (newest to oldest):
Winter Wonders
^ Here I did a halter removal and altered the shape of the horse slightly. I liked how I grounded him. I also painted over the hair.
...
First Snow
^ Here I had some lighting practice and added snow. I liked how the warm breath coming out of the horse's nostrils turned out.
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Eventide
^ Dapples, lighting, hair, reflections..
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Sunny Tobi
^ Hair, patters, lighting.. Although recently i stopped smudging hair as much and started painting it more.
..
What do you think? :)
Tier/Pricing December 27, 2022 09:27 PM


Cherry River Elites
 
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Your hair work is stunning! I do think you could do some work with body prep, definitely changing how it's shaded to blend it into the background more.
Especially on your first one the horse looks like it has some green reflecting on the belly, which clashes with the snowy ground, and with your second there seems to be light shining from the front left of the image onto the horse as opposed to behind. The third one seems a little dull for the background-I'd tone up the saturation a bit and add some reflection of the sky/ground onto the horse. The fourth shows quite a bit of improvement! Could still use a bit of work on correctly shading and lighting, but definitely much better.
All that being said, I completely redraw the horse as opposed to manipulating the stock image itself-it's easier for me to get it to fit into the background, although it is a lot more work! So my advice may not work lol.
Your art is lovely and I admire that you try to stay humble! Definitely an excellent quality in an artist, as long as you're still confident and happy with your skill level.
I would start out pricing at 20-40k per piece, depending on complexity, as long as you can keep consistent work at the level of your fourth piece.
Auctions do tend to go for higher-people see the art and know exactly what they're getting, so are more confident that it'll be high quality than when they're requesting a piece. Once you can keep consistent and high quality pieces, especially when you start consistently improving (yes I know I'm using consistent a lot-it is an incredibly important key term), you can start to price higher. I'd wait to do that until you start getting a steady flow of orders to ensure your art is in demand!
All that being said, you're a fantastic artist, and I can see so much potential for you! I wish you the best of luck on your art journey!
Tier/Pricing December 27, 2022 09:30 PM


Cherry River Elites
 
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Also worth mentioning choosing horse stock with similar lighting to your background makes everything a lot easier :)
Tier/Pricing December 27, 2022 09:48 PM


Florestä
 
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Thank you so much, Rory! That's so helpful :)
Tier/Pricing December 28, 2022 09:55 AM


Cherry River Elites
 
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ElenaDudina is banned stock on HEE-I would advise you to look at that forum.
Otherwise good work!

Floresta said:
My newest example, completed just now :)
Added roan here, painted hair, and had fun with the lighting!
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Tier/Pricing December 29, 2022 01:13 PM


Nightshade Stables
 
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I'd say low tier 2 or maybe high tier 3. Maybe start around 50k for commissions and see how many orders you get?
Most of my comments are pretty similar to what Cherry River said. Your hair is pretty good, and I would say areas to focus on would be horse prep and lighting. Of course, horse prep depends a lot on your personal art style but I personally find that smudging and drawing in highlights and shadows to accentuate the lighting help the horse not only match the lighting of the piece better, but they look more "artistic" rather than a photo and usually makes the horse look like it belongs in the photo better (I am terrible at describing, but I learned my technique for shadows and highlights from HRS's tutorial).
Also, I'd say grounding in the second piece. The light source is very strong, but the lighting on the horse doesn't quite match as the horse should be more strongly backlit, and the shadow on the ground should be a bit darker since the light source is so strong. But in your most recent piece I do notice your grounding is a lot better.
Overall, your concepts are strong and your work is stunning <3
Tier/Pricing December 29, 2022 02:09 PM


Florestä
 
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Thank you so much! <3
I will check out that tutorial :)

Nightshade Stables said:
I'd say low tier 2 or maybe high tier 3. Maybe start around 50k for commissions and see how many orders you get?
Most of my comments are pretty similar to what Cherry River said. Your hair is pretty good, and I would say areas to focus on would be horse prep and lighting. Of course, horse prep depends a lot on your personal art style but I personally find that smudging and drawing in highlights and shadows to accentuate the lighting help the horse not only match the lighting of the piece better, but they look more "artistic" rather than a photo and usually makes the horse look like it belongs in the photo better (I am terrible at describing, but I learned my technique for shadows and highlights from HRS's tutorial).
Also, I'd say grounding in the second piece. The light source is very strong, but the lighting on the horse doesn't quite match as the horse should be more strongly backlit, and the shadow on the ground should be a bit darker since the light source is so strong. But in your most recent piece I do notice your grounding is a lot better.
Overall, your concepts are strong and your work is stunning <3



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