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Fantasy Horses
02:00:21 Fantasy | Fanta
Anyone know the best strategy to complete this quest?
Capture 3 triple Premium horses.
Acacia Riding Center
02:00:02 
but how? just luck?
Minerva
01:59:43 Min
I'll definitely give it a look Red- do you have any you'd reccommend? I really want to get him started with as nice an experience as possible so everything helps!
Red Horizon Ranch
01:59:31 Red
Yeah Acacia you definitely can get Ws from the wild!
Red Horizon Ranch
01:57:44 Red
Min if you are open to it you should look up some demos for how clicker trainers teach good manners. He could definitely figure out expectations around food. It’s like if you’re bad at math you need to practice math problems. If he’s bad with food around you need to practice with him and food
Acacia Riding Center
01:57:02 
How are you guys capturing W's in the wild?
Minerva
01:53:50 Min
Thankfully Ted figured out FAST that I was a provider of food. It's unfortunate that we've had to annex treats because that would get him doing pretty much anything, but unfortunately he bites like a bastard when theres even the hint of them being around. He'll be a cracking horse when he's all grown up though- even as a gangly baby he's eyecatching
FirstLightFarms
01:46:26 puck
Oh thats so good! My guy isnt quite "lob a blanket on" level yet but its so rewarding watching how confident they can become
Minerva
01:45:19 Min
Absolutely haha. I'm really proud of him though- he arrived at the end of May vaguely leadable but pretty much feral and had to live in the field shelter for a week. Now he's out in the field with no headcollar 24/7 and I can lob a rug onto him while he's loose without him lifting his head
Red Horizon Ranch
01:44:39 Red
Yeah Boulder so relatable. I try to let my horse initiate touch and the things we do whenever possible. Like take the extra five minutes to let her walk up to me in the field instead of going out and getting her, pause when she turns her head away when brushing, etc. It changes the game truly and has honestly completely changed how I go about life in general, for the better. Horses have so little autonomy in our world so the little things like that we can do means so much to them. When I’m bridling a horse or anything like that I notice that they will maybe seem like they’re saying no initially by turning away or something. If you notice and respect that a lot of the time they will immediately put their nose in after, where if you had tried to chase after them it probably would escalate. That whole philosophy just means a lot to me
Boulder Creek
01:43:32 
Speaking of training
- I saw incredible training with Dan of Double Dan
What he can do with horses is amazing
I was enthralled with the Road To The Horse exhibition
Silver Melody Acres
01:42:08 Solar - KNNs
Typical gangly teenage boy XD
Minerva
01:40:50 Min
Haha I'll put a bit less pressure on myself then thank you. I'm hoping to get some poles before the end of the year so we can do some proprioception work because my goodness that boy doesn't know where his feet are xD Plus side is he doesn't mind things being around his legs whatsoever since he's so used to wandering into things
Pentagram Stables
01:40:06 Penta - KNNs
No lines, and no chasing. You just don't know our way and I'll leave it at that.
Boulder Creek
01:39:59 
I wasn't a super fan of Warwick until I saw an article heading that said something like Let Your Horse Approach You
(Yes literally only read the title)
And it's made a Huge improvement in my interactions with the horses at the barn.
I can have the stall door open and have them between me at it (huge outdoor pen) and they will chose to come to me and boop my hand without any interaction besides standing still.

And I saw a video where he said don't touch the horse until they touch you and they will tell you where to touch

(Some of it feels woowoo, but it's making a difference in the relationships between the horses and I)
Red Horizon Ranch
01:38:37 Red
Yeah of course, it’s definitely a trust the process kind of exercise you have to be patient and you’ll feel like you’re not doing anything but worth it. I enjoy when training feels more collaborative with our animal friends, worth the time it takes
FirstLightFarms
01:37:19 puck
And seconding Warwick Schiller, he's one of the few clinicians I really respect.
FirstLightFarms
01:36:44 puck
Awww good pony! It just sounds like typical laziness/not being confident enough to carry himself forward. He'll get there!
Minerva
01:35:18 Min
Ooh I'll have a look at that one, thanks Red!
Minerva
01:34:16 Min
Haha exactly Puck! I'm hoping the more we go out the more keen he'll be to get on with it. He's a very good chap overall- and he's even happy to walk out in front of Minnie if I've got someone to lead her. He met his first tractor last night and was a 10/10 brave boy bless him

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Fantasy Horses
02:00:21 Fantasy | Fanta
Anyone know the best strategy to complete this quest?
Capture 3 triple Premium horses.
Acacia Riding Center
02:00:02 
but how? just luck?
Minerva
01:59:43 Min
I'll definitely give it a look Red- do you have any you'd reccommend? I really want to get him started with as nice an experience as possible so everything helps!
Red Horizon Ranch
01:59:31 Red
Yeah Acacia you definitely can get Ws from the wild!
Red Horizon Ranch
01:57:44 Red
Min if you are open to it you should look up some demos for how clicker trainers teach good manners. He could definitely figure out expectations around food. It’s like if you’re bad at math you need to practice math problems. If he’s bad with food around you need to practice with him and food
Acacia Riding Center
01:57:02 
How are you guys capturing W's in the wild?
Minerva
01:53:50 Min
Thankfully Ted figured out FAST that I was a provider of food. It's unfortunate that we've had to annex treats because that would get him doing pretty much anything, but unfortunately he bites like a bastard when theres even the hint of them being around. He'll be a cracking horse when he's all grown up though- even as a gangly baby he's eyecatching
FirstLightFarms
01:46:26 puck
Oh thats so good! My guy isnt quite "lob a blanket on" level yet but its so rewarding watching how confident they can become
Minerva
01:45:19 Min
Absolutely haha. I'm really proud of him though- he arrived at the end of May vaguely leadable but pretty much feral and had to live in the field shelter for a week. Now he's out in the field with no headcollar 24/7 and I can lob a rug onto him while he's loose without him lifting his head
Red Horizon Ranch
01:44:39 Red
Yeah Boulder so relatable. I try to let my horse initiate touch and the things we do whenever possible. Like take the extra five minutes to let her walk up to me in the field instead of going out and getting her, pause when she turns her head away when brushing, etc. It changes the game truly and has honestly completely changed how I go about life in general, for the better. Horses have so little autonomy in our world so the little things like that we can do means so much to them. When I’m bridling a horse or anything like that I notice that they will maybe seem like they’re saying no initially by turning away or something. If you notice and respect that a lot of the time they will immediately put their nose in after, where if you had tried to chase after them it probably would escalate. That whole philosophy just means a lot to me
Boulder Creek
01:43:32 
Speaking of training
- I saw incredible training with Dan of Double Dan
What he can do with horses is amazing
I was enthralled with the Road To The Horse exhibition
Silver Melody Acres
01:42:08 Solar - KNNs
Typical gangly teenage boy XD
Minerva
01:40:50 Min
Haha I'll put a bit less pressure on myself then thank you. I'm hoping to get some poles before the end of the year so we can do some proprioception work because my goodness that boy doesn't know where his feet are xD Plus side is he doesn't mind things being around his legs whatsoever since he's so used to wandering into things
Pentagram Stables
01:40:06 Penta - KNNs
No lines, and no chasing. You just don't know our way and I'll leave it at that.
Boulder Creek
01:39:59 
I wasn't a super fan of Warwick until I saw an article heading that said something like Let Your Horse Approach You
(Yes literally only read the title)
And it's made a Huge improvement in my interactions with the horses at the barn.
I can have the stall door open and have them between me at it (huge outdoor pen) and they will chose to come to me and boop my hand without any interaction besides standing still.

And I saw a video where he said don't touch the horse until they touch you and they will tell you where to touch

(Some of it feels woowoo, but it's making a difference in the relationships between the horses and I)
Red Horizon Ranch
01:38:37 Red
Yeah of course, it’s definitely a trust the process kind of exercise you have to be patient and you’ll feel like you’re not doing anything but worth it. I enjoy when training feels more collaborative with our animal friends, worth the time it takes
FirstLightFarms
01:37:19 puck
And seconding Warwick Schiller, he's one of the few clinicians I really respect.
FirstLightFarms
01:36:44 puck
Awww good pony! It just sounds like typical laziness/not being confident enough to carry himself forward. He'll get there!
Minerva
01:35:18 Min
Ooh I'll have a look at that one, thanks Red!
Minerva
01:34:16 Min
Haha exactly Puck! I'm hoping the more we go out the more keen he'll be to get on with it. He's a very good chap overall- and he's even happy to walk out in front of Minnie if I've got someone to lead her. He met his first tractor last night and was a 10/10 brave boy bless him

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feet/hooves January 23, 2023 12:37 AM


Kiwi Mountains
 
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I struggle horrendously with hooves in almost all my pieces where hooves are touching the ground visably and besides the other things I could work on these hooves are supidly annoying I try and try and still seem to be getting no better at it. Just though I'd come and ask if anyone has any tips on how to help me out a little. Or ever to ask if I am over exaggerating this.
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feet/hooves January 23, 2023 03:23 AM


SilverFern Stables
 
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I am by no means a hoof master - but I think I may be able to provide some tips!

I certainly don't think you're hooves are too bad, but personally there are a few things I would do differently. Personally I like less smudged hooves, as I go for a less painted look with my horses. I generally try to preserve as much as the original hooves on the stock as possible, then I use the clone tool to fill them out and create the proper shape/cover up any grass etc. When I do it I always try and preserve the natural colour changes and even grain in the image, so I tend to use a size 7ish brush and clone from areas directly above/below etc but in separate 'dots' if that makes sense , ie I don't drag the brush. For me that stops the hooves from becoming overly muddy in colour and preserves their natural grain and colour. It's only after I get the shape right doing this method that I do any smudging - which for me is pretty minimal as I go for more realistic look and the details on the hoof are quite delicate. That is just my personal method though, and I tend to se stock that has at least one visible hoof so that I can reuse its texture if I need to repaint the others.

In terms of grounding, I think you've done quite well with the last two, especially the left side of the green image. I would suggest trying out putting a darker, more localized shadow directly beneath a hoof that's on the ground in addition to the rest of the shadows, as I find this helps especially when there isn't much grass etc covering the hoof (ie the first image). What I would also be inclined to do would be to lightly darken the bottom of the hooves themselves that are on the ground, especially if there is grass or sand as this can create a slight shadow.

Here is a quick breakdown of nit-picky things I would do differently on each of the pieces - but don't take these as gospel, but my preference!

1. The main thing that sticks out is the colour, while you don't want super dark hooves with white socks, I'd stay away from going too pink - aim for a more grey/white/even yellowish colour such as with the last image. I'd have a go at adding an extra dark shadow right under the hoof as well, and darken the hoof bottom. I'd also say the closer front hoof is a tad too long but that's very pedantic lol

2. The colour works a lot better here, I would just try to darken the hooves around where the sand sits in fort to show some shadow/blend it better. Again this is pedantic, but I feel the front hoof on the ground should have a more angled left side so that it comes out a bit more to the side - try following the angle/line of the pastern downwards to the ground.

3. The grounding is really nice with the grass and I like the less smudged (lighter) front hoof. My only hang up would be the darker front hoof, it looks a bit blocky so I would erase more of it so it looks like more grass is covering it. I would also consider making it lighter so it better matches the other hooves.

4. I think this one fits really nicely with your art style - the hooves don't feel overly smudged or totally one colour, but are also in a similar painted style to the horses body. The only thing I'd try would be darkening the hoof on the ground just above were the sand covers it to add a bit of shadow.

Overall I think you are doing great! These are just my preferences and I find that no horse stock can be treated the same, you just have to play around and try different things - so don't get discouraged. I apologies for the essay lol, It may not even be the sort of feedback you wanted, but I clearly quite like my hooves! Hopefully this all makes sense, feel free to PM me if you ever need help!

feet/hooves January 23, 2023 03:37 AM


Kiwi Mountains
 
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SilverFern Stables said:

I am by no means a hoof master - but I think I may be able to provide some tips!

I certainly don't think you're hooves are too bad, but personally there are a few things I would do differently. Personally I like less smudged hooves, as I go for a less painted look with my horses. I generally try to preserve as much as the original hooves on the stock as possible, then I use the clone tool to fill them out and create the proper shape/cover up any grass etc. When I do it I always try and preserve the natural colour changes and even grain in the image, so I tend to use a size 7ish brush and clone from areas directly above/below etc but in separate 'dots' if that makes sense , ie I don't drag the brush. For me that stops the hooves from becoming overly muddy in colour and preserves their natural grain and colour. It's only after I get the shape right doing this method that I do any smudging - which for me is pretty minimal as I go for more realistic look and the details on the hoof are quite delicate. That is just my personal method though, and I tend to se stock that has at least one visible hoof so that I can reuse its texture if I need to repaint the others.

In terms of grounding, I think you've done quite well with the last two, especially the left side of the green image. I would suggest trying out putting a darker, more localized shadow directly beneath a hoof that's on the ground in addition to the rest of the shadows, as I find this helps especially when there isn't much grass etc covering the hoof (ie the first image). What I would also be inclined to do would be to lightly darken the bottom of the hooves themselves that are on the ground, especially if there is grass or sand as this can create a slight shadow.

Here is a quick breakdown of nit-picky things I would do differently on each of the pieces - but don't take these as gospel, but my preference!

1. The main thing that sticks out is the colour, while you don't want super dark hooves with white socks, I'd stay away from going too pink - aim for a more grey/white/even yellowish colour such as with the last image. I'd have a go at adding an extra dark shadow right under the hoof as well, and darken the hoof bottom. I'd also say the closer front hoof is a tad too long but that's very pedantic lol

2. The colour works a lot better here, I would just try to darken the hooves around where the sand sits in fort to show some shadow/blend it better. Again this is pedantic, but I feel the front hoof on the ground should have a more angled left side so that it comes out a bit more to the side - try following the angle/line of the pastern downwards to the ground.

3. The grounding is really nice with the grass and I like the less smudged (lighter) front hoof. My only hang up would be the darker front hoof, it looks a bit blocky so I would erase more of it so it looks like more grass is covering it. I would also consider making it lighter so it better matches the other hooves.

4. I think this one fits really nicely with your art style - the hooves don't feel overly smudged or totally one colour, but are also in a similar painted style to the horses body. The only thing I'd try would be darkening the hoof on the ground just above were the sand covers it to add a bit of shadow.

Overall I think you are doing great! These are just my preferences and I find that no horse stock can be treated the same, you just have to play around and try different things - so don't get discouraged. I apologies for the essay lol, It may not even be the sort of feedback you wanted, but I clearly quite like my hooves! Hopefully this all makes sense, feel free to PM me if you ever need help!



thanks a lot! ^^

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