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Embervale Acres
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Eivor
Make sure they're set to Yes for exploring, you can check with the drop down menu for the barn
Astral Appies
03:52:56 Athena's SA - KNNs
nope. Smokey black pearls dont complete the quest lol I've tried
Insignia Elites
03:52:14 Em
I feel if it is pearl It works xD
Insignia Elites
03:51:46 Em
I got it! Thank you guys for your help! I seem to keep getting this quest but it comes with a medallion so I don't want to skip it xD
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How do you upload photos of your phone on here in like a link to show someone
Astral Appies
03:51:20 Athena's SA - KNNs
The ones that finish my wuest have always been buckskins
Valhalla Acreage
03:50:59 Eivor
Why are my explore horses not showing up for explore when I haven't even explored with them yet
Narran Park
03:50:42 Sting
Buckskin is Ee
Narran Park
03:50:25 Sting
Palomino Pearl
Astral Appies
03:50:10 Athena's SA - KNNs
I usually find a buckskin pearl stud and send him to a whole bunch of my buckskin ladies
Astral Appies
03:49:29 Athena's SA - KNNs
so you need a buckskin pearl
Insignia Elites
03:48:23 Em
Breed a double Premium Pearl (ee Prlprl CcrC) foal.
Astral Appies
03:48:06 Athena's SA - KNNs
No unless it's listed in the quest
Insignia Elites
03:47:39 Em
Does Ee make any difference?
Insignia Elites
03:47:02 Em
Sounds good thanks!
Astral Appies
03:46:26 Athena's SA - KNNs
so any foal will have the pearl now you just worry about the P part
Astral Appies
03:45:51 Athena's SA - KNNs
any. apricot is homo pearl always
Insignia Elites
03:45:09 Em
Do I breed to a Prlprl or a prlprl with that?
Astral Appies
03:44:38 Athena's SA - KNNs
Em
find an apricot

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Embervale Acres
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Eivor
Make sure they're set to Yes for exploring, you can check with the drop down menu for the barn
Astral Appies
03:52:56 Athena's SA - KNNs
nope. Smokey black pearls dont complete the quest lol I've tried
Insignia Elites
03:52:14 Em
I feel if it is pearl It works xD
Insignia Elites
03:51:46 Em
I got it! Thank you guys for your help! I seem to keep getting this quest but it comes with a medallion so I don't want to skip it xD
-HEE Click-
Purestables
03:51:21 
How do you upload photos of your phone on here in like a link to show someone
Astral Appies
03:51:20 Athena's SA - KNNs
The ones that finish my wuest have always been buckskins
Valhalla Acreage
03:50:59 Eivor
Why are my explore horses not showing up for explore when I haven't even explored with them yet
Narran Park
03:50:42 Sting
Buckskin is Ee
Narran Park
03:50:25 Sting
Palomino Pearl
Astral Appies
03:50:10 Athena's SA - KNNs
I usually find a buckskin pearl stud and send him to a whole bunch of my buckskin ladies
Astral Appies
03:49:29 Athena's SA - KNNs
so you need a buckskin pearl
Insignia Elites
03:48:23 Em
Breed a double Premium Pearl (ee Prlprl CcrC) foal.
Astral Appies
03:48:06 Athena's SA - KNNs
No unless it's listed in the quest
Insignia Elites
03:47:39 Em
Does Ee make any difference?
Insignia Elites
03:47:02 Em
Sounds good thanks!
Astral Appies
03:46:26 Athena's SA - KNNs
so any foal will have the pearl now you just worry about the P part
Astral Appies
03:45:51 Athena's SA - KNNs
any. apricot is homo pearl always
Insignia Elites
03:45:09 Em
Do I breed to a Prlprl or a prlprl with that?
Astral Appies
03:44:38 Athena's SA - KNNs
Em
find an apricot

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Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:21 PM


Eastwood Acres
 
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I'm not to good with genetics and just tested her. If someone can help I'd like to know if there's anything special or noteworthy about her genetics :) Thank you in advance!

Edited at February 25, 2024 04:21 PM by Eastwood Acres
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:27 PM


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Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:39 PM


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The Joker said:
Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!


Thank you so much! I appreciate it a lot :)
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 05:01 PM


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Eastwood Acres said:

The Joker said:
Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!


Thank you so much! I appreciate it a lot :)


Of course! Happy to help :) I believe the amber part of her colour is caused by her base colour of Ee which would usually be bay/brown, I may be incorrect though and it may be linked to the agouti gene instead
Genetic Help February 26, 2024 01:28 PM


Clear Springs
 
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Champagnes have weird color names.
Gold Champagne = Chestnut (ee ??) + Champagne gene
Amber Champagne = Bay (E?A?) + Champagne gene
Sable Champagne = Brown (E?At?) + Champagne gene
Classic Champagne = Black (E?aa)+ Champagne gene

So the "Amber" part of her color just means she would be a plain bay horse without the Champagne gene. She's E(black-based) A(agouti) plus Ch(Champagne). She also has that At gene in there which doesn't show on her, but means she could have a brown foal.

The Extension (E/e) gene just determines if a horse is black-based or red-based. If the horse has at least one E gene it's black-based, if ee it's red-based. All horse colors are one or the other with modifiers added for colors besides Black and Chestnut.

The Agouti (A/At/a) gene here is considered only active in black-based horses, so a horse that is red-based (ee) won't express it no matter what alleles are present. What it does is restrict where on the horse black pigment is fully expressed. It limits actual black to the "points" of the horse and leaves the body lacking enough pigment to be truly black, so it's just sort of a faded black color (which appears red, but isn't). So a horse with E?A? is the full-on Agouti color we call "bay" with black points and reddish body. A horse with E?At? has more expression of pigment on the body, has brown "highlights" on the nose, flank, etc and black points and is called "brown". A horse with E?aa is black all over with no restriction from the Agouti gene.

So now we have what E/e and A/At/a are and what they mean to horse colors, you can take all those and apply the modifiers like the white-spotting patterns (Tobiano, Sabino, Frame), Roan, Dun, etc and add in that Champagne has those weird names and so does Cream(CcrC) (Chestnut + Cream = Palomino, Bay + Cream = Buckskin, Brown + Cream = Brown Buckskin, Black + Cream = Smoky Black) and Double Cream(CcrCcr) (Chestnut = Cremello, Bay/Brown = Perlino, Black = Smoky Cream).

Most of the genes here are dominantly-expressed (the capital letter means the horse has that trait), but Pearl is recessive (a horse must have prlprl to be Pearl) and Agouti has 3 alleles, where A overrides the other two, At only overrides a and aa means "non-Agouti).

Hope that helps some people who are still a bit confused. Variable color names don't help. It's like the gene that's called merle in every other dog breed is called dapple in dachshunds. You just have to learn the color names and roll with it.

Edited at February 26, 2024 02:06 PM by Clear Springs
Genetic Help February 26, 2024 10:38 PM


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Clear Springs said:
Champagnes have weird color names.
Gold Champagne = Chestnut (ee ??) + Champagne gene
Amber Champagne = Bay (E?A?) + Champagne gene
Sable Champagne = Brown (E?At?) + Champagne gene
Classic Champagne = Black (E?aa)+ Champagne gene

So the "Amber" part of her color just means she would be a plain bay horse without the Champagne gene. She's E(black-based) A(agouti) plus Ch(Champagne). She also has that At gene in there which doesn't show on her, but means she could have a brown foal.

The Extension (E/e) gene just determines if a horse is black-based or red-based. If the horse has at least one E gene it's black-based, if ee it's red-based. All horse colors are one or the other with modifiers added for colors besides Black and Chestnut.

The Agouti (A/At/a) gene here is considered only active in black-based horses, so a horse that is red-based (ee) won't express it no matter what alleles are present. What it does is restrict where on the horse black pigment is fully expressed. It limits actual black to the "points" of the horse and leaves the body lacking enough pigment to be truly black, so it's just sort of a faded black color (which appears red, but isn't). So a horse with E?A? is the full-on Agouti color we call "bay" with black points and reddish body. A horse with E?At? has more expression of pigment on the body, has brown "highlights" on the nose, flank, etc and black points and is called "brown". A horse with E?aa is black all over with no restriction from the Agouti gene.

So now we have what E/e and A/At/a are and what they mean to horse colors, you can take all those and apply the modifiers like the white-spotting patterns (Tobiano, Sabino, Frame), Roan, Dun, etc and add in that Champagne has those weird names and so does Cream(CcrC) (Chestnut + Cream = Palomino, Bay + Cream = Buckskin, Brown + Cream = Brown Buckskin, Black + Cream = Smoky Black) and Double Cream(CcrCcr) (Chestnut = Cremello, Bay/Brown = Perlino, Black = Smoky Cream).

Most of the genes here are dominantly-expressed (the capital letter means the horse has that trait), but Pearl is recessive (a horse must have prlprl to be Pearl) and Agouti has 3 alleles, where A overrides the other two, At only overrides a and aa means "non-Agouti).

Hope that helps some people who are still a bit confused. Variable color names don't help. It's like the gene that's called merle in every other dog breed is called dapple in dachshunds. You just have to learn the color names and roll with it.


Thank you!

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