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Dash and Duchess
10:16:29 DD | ~Squizard~
Bird, I loved my tetras, I believe I had the 2 for 4/5 years? But do be weary when you get them, I originally had 4 but unfortunately we lost 2 very shortly after due to the 'professionals' we talked with I'll informing us on the best amount for our tank!
Hummingbird Meadows
10:15:34 Bird
@charm, I was hoping to keep it less than $500
Versailles
10:15:19 Versa
Should always try our best with animals. Research is worth it
Backwood Barns
10:14:43 Charm's Wubs
Like with anything it takes a lot of research (and it's a bit of an investment) to do things right.
Versailles
10:14:17 Versa
Bettas are definitely able to get away with a 10. I just wouldn't go lower, they explore and swim around way more than people realize
Wings Of Glory
10:14:08 O Great Potato Wing
After 3 months of work and almost 20k down the drain my truck will finally be repaired and drivable tomorrow >_< proud of myself for not giving up
Dash and Duchess
10:13:45 DD | ~Squizard~
Bird, Unfortunately I never got to try a planted tank, but I've heard amazing things! I do really wish I'd had time to lol
Hummingbird Meadows
10:13:39 Bird
For preferably a smaller tank. Less than 20 gallons.
Hummingbird Meadows
10:13:23 Bird
Other than betta fish, what are some good beginner fish?
Dash and Duchess
10:12:09 DD | ~Squizard~
Exactly what charm said! It really makes things easier, and the fish love it too!
Hummingbird Meadows
10:11:48 Bird
@DD, so you have had good luck with plants?
Backwood Barns
10:10:56 Charm's Wubs
I will always recommend planted. It will also help keep your tank clean and water quality higher because plants remove nitrates/nitrites from the fish waste.
Dash and Duchess
10:10:54 DD | ~Squizard~
Versa & Bird, gotta love plants and fishies!
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Bird, you should! I made the mistake of not doing one with my tetras and I honestly regret it a bit xD
Backwood Barns
10:08:59 Charm's Wubs
Um, I guess? They're alive, but they're not growing for him. They're only as big as they are because they thrived in my tank. So I guess my advice is to get an established piece?
Hummingbird Meadows
10:08:17 Bird
@DD, yes. I kind of want a betta fish. Trying to decide if I should do a planted tank.
Versailles
10:07:56 Versa
Yes indeed, DD
Backwood Barns
10:07:43 Charm's Wubs
Ironically, he can grow 10-feet long Jungle Val, and as soon as I take a few pieces of it, it dies in my tanks. So it's all about finding the plants that you can maintain and thrive in your tanks!
Hummingbird Meadows
10:07:40 Bird
@Charm, pointless as in easy?
Dash and Duchess
10:07:34 DD | ~Squizard~
Ooo are we talking fish and plants? :D
Backwood Barns
10:07:03 Charm's Wubs
Bird, then you need to have a good piece of driftwood or lava rock to attach it to. But they still grow and require trimming! I have a giant anubias in my 135 that has been growing for 6 years on a large piece of driftwood. I can't seem to kill it, but I'll give pieces to my dad for his tank whenever I need to do maintanance and he can't get them to grow at all. Some pieces that are 3 years old are the same size as when I gave them to him. So... I'm not sure about that. I think they're easy and great plants. If you asked my dad he'd say they're pointless LOL

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Dash and Duchess
10:16:29 DD | ~Squizard~
Bird, I loved my tetras, I believe I had the 2 for 4/5 years? But do be weary when you get them, I originally had 4 but unfortunately we lost 2 very shortly after due to the 'professionals' we talked with I'll informing us on the best amount for our tank!
Hummingbird Meadows
10:15:34 Bird
@charm, I was hoping to keep it less than $500
Versailles
10:15:19 Versa
Should always try our best with animals. Research is worth it
Backwood Barns
10:14:43 Charm's Wubs
Like with anything it takes a lot of research (and it's a bit of an investment) to do things right.
Versailles
10:14:17 Versa
Bettas are definitely able to get away with a 10. I just wouldn't go lower, they explore and swim around way more than people realize
Wings Of Glory
10:14:08 O Great Potato Wing
After 3 months of work and almost 20k down the drain my truck will finally be repaired and drivable tomorrow >_< proud of myself for not giving up
Dash and Duchess
10:13:45 DD | ~Squizard~
Bird, Unfortunately I never got to try a planted tank, but I've heard amazing things! I do really wish I'd had time to lol
Hummingbird Meadows
10:13:39 Bird
For preferably a smaller tank. Less than 20 gallons.
Hummingbird Meadows
10:13:23 Bird
Other than betta fish, what are some good beginner fish?
Dash and Duchess
10:12:09 DD | ~Squizard~
Exactly what charm said! It really makes things easier, and the fish love it too!
Hummingbird Meadows
10:11:48 Bird
@DD, so you have had good luck with plants?
Backwood Barns
10:10:56 Charm's Wubs
I will always recommend planted. It will also help keep your tank clean and water quality higher because plants remove nitrates/nitrites from the fish waste.
Dash and Duchess
10:10:54 DD | ~Squizard~
Versa & Bird, gotta love plants and fishies!
-
Bird, you should! I made the mistake of not doing one with my tetras and I honestly regret it a bit xD
Backwood Barns
10:08:59 Charm's Wubs
Um, I guess? They're alive, but they're not growing for him. They're only as big as they are because they thrived in my tank. So I guess my advice is to get an established piece?
Hummingbird Meadows
10:08:17 Bird
@DD, yes. I kind of want a betta fish. Trying to decide if I should do a planted tank.
Versailles
10:07:56 Versa
Yes indeed, DD
Backwood Barns
10:07:43 Charm's Wubs
Ironically, he can grow 10-feet long Jungle Val, and as soon as I take a few pieces of it, it dies in my tanks. So it's all about finding the plants that you can maintain and thrive in your tanks!
Hummingbird Meadows
10:07:40 Bird
@Charm, pointless as in easy?
Dash and Duchess
10:07:34 DD | ~Squizard~
Ooo are we talking fish and plants? :D
Backwood Barns
10:07:03 Charm's Wubs
Bird, then you need to have a good piece of driftwood or lava rock to attach it to. But they still grow and require trimming! I have a giant anubias in my 135 that has been growing for 6 years on a large piece of driftwood. I can't seem to kill it, but I'll give pieces to my dad for his tank whenever I need to do maintanance and he can't get them to grow at all. Some pieces that are 3 years old are the same size as when I gave them to him. So... I'm not sure about that. I think they're easy and great plants. If you asked my dad he'd say they're pointless LOL

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Feeds and Feeding October 23, 2018 11:03 PM


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OK. So I am on a budget and trying to find a happy medium between high-quality grain/ingredients and low-cost feed.

Currently I have my boys on DuMor (TSC brand) feed, senior for the old guy and mare and foal for the yearling. But I'm considering switching at least the old guy to a mix of oats and sweet feed thats about $5 cheaper a bag at the local feed store and supports a local business as opposed to chain. Baby I'm not sure on... IDK if I want him on that high energy of a feed. And he seems happy on his not-terribly-expensive-but-not-cheap-either grain.

I just don't like that their grain has "by-products" as main ingredient... And it's around $18-19 a bag for old man and $16-17 for baby.

That said, anyone got any articles on this? Or any advice?


I am currently feeding:
-DuMor grain (4 scoops (3 quart scoop) a day for old, 2 scoops a day for baby)
-soaked alfalfa cubes (mostly free choice, but around 1 5-gallon bucket each a day)
-soaked beet pulp (may take them off this as it's expensive and not doing much... about 4 gallons each a day)
-as much burmuda grass hay as they want
-whatever grass they find in their 3ish acre pasture (it's just them two)
-old guy gets 8 oz Cool Calories dry fat supplement in an attempt to add weight on him (not working a ton)
-each get 2/3 oz dry/granulated MSM supplement
-putting them back on ground flax seed. Prob gonna be 4 oz each a day.


They're on my land and I'm home days all day, so I spread out feeding throughout the day. And I can do some stuff that requires more involvement
Feeds and Feeding October 23, 2018 11:06 PM

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Honestly, if theyre both doing well on their current feed, I wouldnt change it. An older horse might be more prone to colic and other issues on that high sugar feed.
Feeds and Feeding October 23, 2018 11:07 PM


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I really liked Tribute Kalm Ultra for keeping weight on.

Currently, my crew are on a ration balancer, and my hard keeper gets a fat supplement.

Buckeye Nutrition Grow N' Win (both)

Buckeye Ultimate Finish 25 (hard keeper)

You can get both off chewy.
Feeds and Feeding October 23, 2018 11:08 PM


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The Overlook said:
Honestly, if theyre both doing well on their current feed, I wouldnt change it. An older horse might be more prone to colic and other issues on that high sugar feed.


Good point... Baby is doing GREAT on feed, which is why I'm uninclined to switch his until May when I switch him to "grown-up" feed instead of mare and foal. But old guy STILL isn't gaining... And his feed is so damn expensive. I'm dropping about $200 a month just on his feed. Probably like $75 on baby's feed. And well over $100 on hay/alfalfa/beet pulp
Feeds and Feeding October 23, 2018 11:08 PM


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Jellos Warmbloods said:
I really liked Tribute Kalm Ultra for keeping weight on.

Currently, my crew are on a ration balancer, and my hard keeper gets a fat supplement.

Buckeye Nutrition Grow N' Win (both)

Buckeye Ultimate Finish 25 (hard keeper)

You can get both off chewy.



Hmmm... I'll have to look into those. May I ask how much they cost?
Feeds and Feeding October 23, 2018 11:08 PM


Vecchia Modo
 
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Talk to your Vet about feeds.
Find out what exactly the 'by-products' are.
Feeds and Feeding October 23, 2018 11:11 PM


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Vecchia Modo said:
Talk to your Vet about feeds.
Find out what exactly the 'by-products' are.



I've briefly discussed it with him, as I intern with him. He said to up their grain (but I worry about founder/laminitis and colic) and he is very anti-supplement. But I have seen SUCH an improvement in Bid (old guy) on MSM. Though, Cool Calories don't seem to be doing much...
Feeds and Feeding October 23, 2018 11:16 PM

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If the vet says increase their grain, I'd increase the grain, and try a weight gain and if Cool Calories isnt doing it, Id try Purina Amplify. Its a high fat, high calorie supplement that Ive seen work.. I really wouldnt switch him unless increasing the grain doesnt work
Feeds and Feeding October 23, 2018 11:25 PM


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The Overlook said:
If the vet says increase their grain, I'd increase the grain, and try a weight gain and if Cool Calories isnt doing it, Id try Purina Amplify. Its a high fat, high calorie supplement that Ive seen work.. I really wouldnt switch him unless increasing the grain doesnt work


I have increased his grain. He's been on 1 scoop twice a day since he was 22. He lost weight due to bad boarding situation and in trying to put it back on, he's slowly been upped to 2-2.5 scoops twice a day.
Feeds and Feeding October 23, 2018 11:28 PM

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Etoile Noir Elites said:


The Overlook said:
If the vet says increase their grain, I'd increase the grain, and try a weight gain and if Cool Calories isnt doing it, Id try Purina Amplify. Its a high fat, high calorie supplement that Ive seen work.. I really wouldnt switch him unless increasing the grain doesnt work


I have increased his grain. He's been on 1 scoop twice a day since he was 22. He lost weight due to bad boarding situation and in trying to put it back on, he's slowly been upped to 2-2.5 scoops twice a day.


id try the Amplify. Might work better than Cool Calories

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