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Alpine Acres
07:05:58 Lily/Alpine
Cali
I agree with Min, meet in the middle by going bitless. That way everyone else will be happy and you will have some form of control if something was to happen. But I totally understand where you're coming from
Mythological
07:05:05 Crowley
Cali
Doesn't matter, shit happens. Horses can be unpredictable. It only takes once for either of you to be seriously hurt. 😕
Alpine Acres
07:03:58 Lily/Alpine
I'm also really into bridleless. After switching from one riding school to the next and learning a few things along the way, I'm a strong believer in bridleless and bitless riding and refuse to ride in harsh bits (such as pelhams) anymore. I've ridden with lots of different trainers and they all have very different opinions, but in the end I think it's up to you to form your own opinion :)
Minerva
07:03:58 Min
Totally appreciate that Cali, but no animal is 100% anything. Its like my sheep-trained terrier with fantastic recall still goes on a lead to go past livestock- its not fair or worth it to put him in a position for something to happen. Personally I'd just chuck a side pull on so theres something for other people to look at (and to help hold him if something were to happen) and ride the same way you would without a bridle
ArcticLights
07:03:26 Ceci / (Call me) AL
There is no such thing as a 100% bombproof horse. If you are under 18 your parents are responsible if something happens and I understand why they say no
Sport Pony Island
07:03:20 Solstice × Win
Cali
I understand that your horse is bombproof and safe to ride tackless or bridle less, but, i promise you (bad promise though) you will have a few fails, when riding bridle less, it's not easy, even if you have been working on it for a long time..
Calela Eventing
07:01:10 Cali
Min
That is where I'm being pushed. I do understand everyone's concerns but he is bombproof and 100% safe when bridleless.
I've got until December to convince the show hosts so I've been working so hard to keep working on bridleless. I even take him out into the fields tackless and he's always perfect
Dash and Duchess
06:59:58 DD | ~Squizard~
Cali, brideless is indeed super cool! You should try to talk to your parents about it, because if your horse/lease/horse you are riding is apt to ride bridleless, it should be just fine <3
Sport Pony Island
06:58:34 Solstice × Win
cali
Do your parents not let you because they think it's dangerous?
Minerva
06:57:48 Min
Maybe meet in the middle with a bitless bridle? I can see from a "safety of other people" aspect why they wouldnt want a horse at a show with no bridle at all, but its always seemed odd to me that bits are often a firm requirement
Sport Pony Island
06:57:33 Solstice × Win
Cali, i own a KWPN stallion, who is 7, we do bridle less and bare back all the time, and compete bridle less, and jump 140cm bridle less.. we do it for 3 years now, and at first we got hate as well, but now people are excited and happy to see me and him compete bridle less. Just try to compete bridle less, if you like it (and don't hurt yourself) you can continue! That's my advice..
Calela Eventing
06:57:13 Cali
solar
Its not against the rules technically but my parents won't let me at all, and they're not even equestrians
Wisteria Run Farm
06:56:24 Solar/Ria
If it's not against the rules, do it anyway and show off. Bridleless is cool
Calela Eventing
06:54:45 Cali
And then I argue with some people about it and this is what I get "Its not all about you, horses should have a bit in no matter what your doing"

Like no! I'm not sticking metal in my horses mouth to make strangers happy
Calela Eventing
06:51:13 Cali
So I'm very into liberty work with my horse, as well as bridle less.
We're looking into a show for December, it isn't graded and is just a training show. I really want to go bridleless but am getting a fair amount of hate. It just really upset me
Wisteria Run Farm
06:50:18 Solar/Ria
Why do you have to be a colt?
-HEE Click-
Mythological
06:48:44 Crowley
Rant-
ArcticLights
06:47:47 Ceci / (Call me) AL
I might not be able to solve problems but I can offer ears (or eyes in this case)
ArcticLights
06:47:19 Ceci / (Call me) AL
Feel free to rant
Calela Eventing
06:46:14 Cali
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Alpine Acres
07:05:58 Lily/Alpine
Cali
I agree with Min, meet in the middle by going bitless. That way everyone else will be happy and you will have some form of control if something was to happen. But I totally understand where you're coming from
Mythological
07:05:05 Crowley
Cali
Doesn't matter, shit happens. Horses can be unpredictable. It only takes once for either of you to be seriously hurt. 😕
Alpine Acres
07:03:58 Lily/Alpine
I'm also really into bridleless. After switching from one riding school to the next and learning a few things along the way, I'm a strong believer in bridleless and bitless riding and refuse to ride in harsh bits (such as pelhams) anymore. I've ridden with lots of different trainers and they all have very different opinions, but in the end I think it's up to you to form your own opinion :)
Minerva
07:03:58 Min
Totally appreciate that Cali, but no animal is 100% anything. Its like my sheep-trained terrier with fantastic recall still goes on a lead to go past livestock- its not fair or worth it to put him in a position for something to happen. Personally I'd just chuck a side pull on so theres something for other people to look at (and to help hold him if something were to happen) and ride the same way you would without a bridle
ArcticLights
07:03:26 Ceci / (Call me) AL
There is no such thing as a 100% bombproof horse. If you are under 18 your parents are responsible if something happens and I understand why they say no
Sport Pony Island
07:03:20 Solstice × Win
Cali
I understand that your horse is bombproof and safe to ride tackless or bridle less, but, i promise you (bad promise though) you will have a few fails, when riding bridle less, it's not easy, even if you have been working on it for a long time..
Calela Eventing
07:01:10 Cali
Min
That is where I'm being pushed. I do understand everyone's concerns but he is bombproof and 100% safe when bridleless.
I've got until December to convince the show hosts so I've been working so hard to keep working on bridleless. I even take him out into the fields tackless and he's always perfect
Dash and Duchess
06:59:58 DD | ~Squizard~
Cali, brideless is indeed super cool! You should try to talk to your parents about it, because if your horse/lease/horse you are riding is apt to ride bridleless, it should be just fine <3
Sport Pony Island
06:58:34 Solstice × Win
cali
Do your parents not let you because they think it's dangerous?
Minerva
06:57:48 Min
Maybe meet in the middle with a bitless bridle? I can see from a "safety of other people" aspect why they wouldnt want a horse at a show with no bridle at all, but its always seemed odd to me that bits are often a firm requirement
Sport Pony Island
06:57:33 Solstice × Win
Cali, i own a KWPN stallion, who is 7, we do bridle less and bare back all the time, and compete bridle less, and jump 140cm bridle less.. we do it for 3 years now, and at first we got hate as well, but now people are excited and happy to see me and him compete bridle less. Just try to compete bridle less, if you like it (and don't hurt yourself) you can continue! That's my advice..
Calela Eventing
06:57:13 Cali
solar
Its not against the rules technically but my parents won't let me at all, and they're not even equestrians
Wisteria Run Farm
06:56:24 Solar/Ria
If it's not against the rules, do it anyway and show off. Bridleless is cool
Calela Eventing
06:54:45 Cali
And then I argue with some people about it and this is what I get "Its not all about you, horses should have a bit in no matter what your doing"

Like no! I'm not sticking metal in my horses mouth to make strangers happy
Calela Eventing
06:51:13 Cali
So I'm very into liberty work with my horse, as well as bridle less.
We're looking into a show for December, it isn't graded and is just a training show. I really want to go bridleless but am getting a fair amount of hate. It just really upset me
Wisteria Run Farm
06:50:18 Solar/Ria
Why do you have to be a colt?
-HEE Click-
Mythological
06:48:44 Crowley
Rant-
ArcticLights
06:47:47 Ceci / (Call me) AL
I might not be able to solve problems but I can offer ears (or eyes in this case)
ArcticLights
06:47:19 Ceci / (Call me) AL
Feel free to rant
Calela Eventing
06:46:14 Cali
Who wants to subject themselves to one of my long rants?

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Apricot ? May 29, 2018 09:02 AM

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Is it possible to breed a blue eyed apricot horse?
If this is possible can someone please explain what needs to be done to make this happen..
Also if I am breeding an apricot mare to a non apricot stallion, what genetics does he need to make the foal an apricot?
Apricot ? May 29, 2018 12:10 PM


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Yep, below is an example.

https://horseeden.com/horse.php?id=16194705

Splash can cause blue eyes. Either of the parents will need to carry splash.

Apricot is = prlprl
So the stallion needs to be = Prlprl
To be effective to produce an apricot foal the stallion must not have EE. Ee can still produce apricot, but EE cannot and ee is preferred. Dilute stallions will cover up the apricot so steer clear of perlino's and cremello's.
Apricot ? May 29, 2018 06:50 PM

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Thank you.. what if it is PrlPrl??

Edited at May 29, 2018 06:58 PM by AQHA Headquarters
Apricot ? May 29, 2018 07:02 PM


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AQHA Headquarters said:
Thank you.. what if it is PrlPrl??


PrlPrl means it doesn't carry pearl and can't throw Apricots no matter what mare it is paired with.
Apricot ? May 29, 2018 08:51 PM

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ok.. finding a stallion with ee and Prlprl who is EEE and has PPP requirements is almost impossible.. and the ones I do find are really expensive and not good producers.. guess I have a new mission! thanks for all the help
Apricot ? May 29, 2018 10:00 PM


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Splash White and Frame can cause blue eyes on an Apricot.
Apricot ? May 30, 2018 03:57 PM

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Thanks everyone for your help.. I was able to find one stallion with PPP requirement and a breeding fee under 5k.. I am on a mission to breed a EE apricot stallion now :)

Next question is does anyone have any PEE combo stallions they would brood out to me for under 3k per breeding?? all my mares are PPP+

Edited at May 30, 2018 04:06 PM by AQHA Headquarters
Apricot ? May 30, 2018 07:22 PM


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https://horseeden.com/horse.php?id=16062378
I have this boy who I will be putting upfor LCs for under 5k yr 108. I'll probably be selling straws to him as well 😀
Apricot ? May 31, 2018 05:47 PM

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I would love to give him a try!
Apricot ? June 1, 2018 12:11 AM


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I have this EEE apricot guy (and his EEP apricot sabino full brother) that I'd be willing to put up for stud. I could also lower his reqs to PPP if necessary.
https://horseeden.com/horse.php?id=15354769

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