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Minerva
01:45:19 Min
Absolutely haha. I'm really proud of him though- he arrived at the end of May vaguely leadable but pretty much feral and had to live in the field shelter for a week. Now he's out in the field with no headcollar 24/7 and I can lob a rug onto him while he's loose without him lifting his head
Red Horizon Ranch
01:44:39 Red
Yeah Boulder so relatable. I try to let my horse initiate touch and the things we do whenever possible. Like take the extra five minutes to let her walk up to me in the field instead of going out and getting her, pause when she turns her head away when brushing, etc. It changes the game truly and has honestly completely changed how I go about life in general, for the better. Horses have so little autonomy in our world so the little things like that we can do means so much to them. When I’m bridling a horse or anything like that I notice that they will maybe seem like they’re saying no initially by turning away or something. If you notice and respect that a lot of the time they will immediately put their nose in after, where if you had tried to chase after them it probably would escalate. That whole philosophy just means a lot to me
Boulder Creek
01:43:32 
Speaking of training
- I saw incredible training with Dan of Double Dan
What he can do with horses is amazing
I was enthralled with the Road To The Horse exhibition
Silver Melody Acres
01:42:08 Solar - KNNs
Typical gangly teenage boy XD
Minerva
01:40:50 Min
Haha I'll put a bit less pressure on myself then thank you. I'm hoping to get some poles before the end of the year so we can do some proprioception work because my goodness that boy doesn't know where his feet are xD Plus side is he doesn't mind things being around his legs whatsoever since he's so used to wandering into things
Pentagram Stables
01:40:06 Penta - KNNs
No lines, and no chasing. You just don't know our way and I'll leave it at that.
Boulder Creek
01:39:59 
I wasn't a super fan of Warwick until I saw an article heading that said something like Let Your Horse Approach You
(Yes literally only read the title)
And it's made a Huge improvement in my interactions with the horses at the barn.
I can have the stall door open and have them between me at it (huge outdoor pen) and they will chose to come to me and boop my hand without any interaction besides standing still.

And I saw a video where he said don't touch the horse until they touch you and they will tell you where to touch

(Some of it feels woowoo, but it's making a difference in the relationships between the horses and I)
Red Horizon Ranch
01:38:37 Red
Yeah of course, it’s definitely a trust the process kind of exercise you have to be patient and you’ll feel like you’re not doing anything but worth it. I enjoy when training feels more collaborative with our animal friends, worth the time it takes
FirstLightFarms
01:37:19 puck
And seconding Warwick Schiller, he's one of the few clinicians I really respect.
FirstLightFarms
01:36:44 puck
Awww good pony! It just sounds like typical laziness/not being confident enough to carry himself forward. He'll get there!
Minerva
01:35:18 Min
Ooh I'll have a look at that one, thanks Red!
Minerva
01:34:16 Min
Haha exactly Puck! I'm hoping the more we go out the more keen he'll be to get on with it. He's a very good chap overall- and he's even happy to walk out in front of Minnie if I've got someone to lead her. He met his first tractor last night and was a 10/10 brave boy bless him
FirstLightFarms
01:34:09 puck
Unless your lunge lunge is 200 feet long it's gonna be a small circle lol
Red Horizon Ranch
01:33:01 Red
And no chasing, showing them who’s boss, etc. necessary. I really don’t enjoy having to do that kind of thing and good news, you really basically never have to XD
Pentagram Stables
01:32:36 Penta - KNNs
I said nothing about small circles, but whatever.
We have a different view of how to do things with 2 yr olds.
Red Horizon Ranch
01:31:35 Red
I really like Warwick Schiller’s “leading with energy” exercise for staying in the right position/responsiveness when leading, my mate was so “lazy” seeming and wanted to be directly behind me while leading, would pin her ears and swish tail when asked to go forward, it worked incredibly well
Minerva
01:31:33 Min
To be honest the maximum I'd ever lunge any horse is like 20 minutes, and that would be their entire work for the day. It has it's place but isn't my preferred method for anything
FirstLightFarms
01:30:53 puck
Min, he sounds like my pony! Just needs to learn a little responsibility about walking forward instead of being dragged every step 😂
FirstLightFarms
01:30:05 puck
Yeah it'd hurt, small circles are the worst for babies. Great way to do damage to their joints. And chasing a horse on the line isnt exactly the best way to establish you're in charge 🙃
Minerva
01:29:48 Min
That's great Puck, thank you! He naturally likes to put himself behind me, although we've been working on that and he's much happier walking out nicely now. When we're out and about he plants a few times right at the start, then likes to march. He's definitely more of a woah than go pony, which will be great when I'm backing him in a few years, but not ideal with ride and lead haha

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Minerva
01:45:19 Min
Absolutely haha. I'm really proud of him though- he arrived at the end of May vaguely leadable but pretty much feral and had to live in the field shelter for a week. Now he's out in the field with no headcollar 24/7 and I can lob a rug onto him while he's loose without him lifting his head
Red Horizon Ranch
01:44:39 Red
Yeah Boulder so relatable. I try to let my horse initiate touch and the things we do whenever possible. Like take the extra five minutes to let her walk up to me in the field instead of going out and getting her, pause when she turns her head away when brushing, etc. It changes the game truly and has honestly completely changed how I go about life in general, for the better. Horses have so little autonomy in our world so the little things like that we can do means so much to them. When I’m bridling a horse or anything like that I notice that they will maybe seem like they’re saying no initially by turning away or something. If you notice and respect that a lot of the time they will immediately put their nose in after, where if you had tried to chase after them it probably would escalate. That whole philosophy just means a lot to me
Boulder Creek
01:43:32 
Speaking of training
- I saw incredible training with Dan of Double Dan
What he can do with horses is amazing
I was enthralled with the Road To The Horse exhibition
Silver Melody Acres
01:42:08 Solar - KNNs
Typical gangly teenage boy XD
Minerva
01:40:50 Min
Haha I'll put a bit less pressure on myself then thank you. I'm hoping to get some poles before the end of the year so we can do some proprioception work because my goodness that boy doesn't know where his feet are xD Plus side is he doesn't mind things being around his legs whatsoever since he's so used to wandering into things
Pentagram Stables
01:40:06 Penta - KNNs
No lines, and no chasing. You just don't know our way and I'll leave it at that.
Boulder Creek
01:39:59 
I wasn't a super fan of Warwick until I saw an article heading that said something like Let Your Horse Approach You
(Yes literally only read the title)
And it's made a Huge improvement in my interactions with the horses at the barn.
I can have the stall door open and have them between me at it (huge outdoor pen) and they will chose to come to me and boop my hand without any interaction besides standing still.

And I saw a video where he said don't touch the horse until they touch you and they will tell you where to touch

(Some of it feels woowoo, but it's making a difference in the relationships between the horses and I)
Red Horizon Ranch
01:38:37 Red
Yeah of course, it’s definitely a trust the process kind of exercise you have to be patient and you’ll feel like you’re not doing anything but worth it. I enjoy when training feels more collaborative with our animal friends, worth the time it takes
FirstLightFarms
01:37:19 puck
And seconding Warwick Schiller, he's one of the few clinicians I really respect.
FirstLightFarms
01:36:44 puck
Awww good pony! It just sounds like typical laziness/not being confident enough to carry himself forward. He'll get there!
Minerva
01:35:18 Min
Ooh I'll have a look at that one, thanks Red!
Minerva
01:34:16 Min
Haha exactly Puck! I'm hoping the more we go out the more keen he'll be to get on with it. He's a very good chap overall- and he's even happy to walk out in front of Minnie if I've got someone to lead her. He met his first tractor last night and was a 10/10 brave boy bless him
FirstLightFarms
01:34:09 puck
Unless your lunge lunge is 200 feet long it's gonna be a small circle lol
Red Horizon Ranch
01:33:01 Red
And no chasing, showing them who’s boss, etc. necessary. I really don’t enjoy having to do that kind of thing and good news, you really basically never have to XD
Pentagram Stables
01:32:36 Penta - KNNs
I said nothing about small circles, but whatever.
We have a different view of how to do things with 2 yr olds.
Red Horizon Ranch
01:31:35 Red
I really like Warwick Schiller’s “leading with energy” exercise for staying in the right position/responsiveness when leading, my mate was so “lazy” seeming and wanted to be directly behind me while leading, would pin her ears and swish tail when asked to go forward, it worked incredibly well
Minerva
01:31:33 Min
To be honest the maximum I'd ever lunge any horse is like 20 minutes, and that would be their entire work for the day. It has it's place but isn't my preferred method for anything
FirstLightFarms
01:30:53 puck
Min, he sounds like my pony! Just needs to learn a little responsibility about walking forward instead of being dragged every step 😂
FirstLightFarms
01:30:05 puck
Yeah it'd hurt, small circles are the worst for babies. Great way to do damage to their joints. And chasing a horse on the line isnt exactly the best way to establish you're in charge 🙃
Minerva
01:29:48 Min
That's great Puck, thank you! He naturally likes to put himself behind me, although we've been working on that and he's much happier walking out nicely now. When we're out and about he plants a few times right at the start, then likes to march. He's definitely more of a woah than go pony, which will be great when I'm backing him in a few years, but not ideal with ride and lead haha

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Art pricing help December 7, 2023 08:39 PM


ShiningStar Stables
 
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I am not really asking for tier help since I don't feel confident enough to open a shop yet. I am just wanting to know a good price to start auctions at. I would also love dome critique on my art, I'm not very good but I am trying anyway lol
Most recent examples(I am aware I forgot to give the horse in the apple tree piece a shadow xD):
Art pricing help December 7, 2023 08:56 PM


Versailles
 
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Have you done some auctions? What people pay in there can heavily indicate what you should price your art at, at first <3
Art pricing help December 7, 2023 09:01 PM


ShiningStar Stables
 
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I have done 3 auctions. One went for 20k, one went for 25k and one went for 50k. So should I do a 20k SB and a 50k AB for most auctions?

Versailles said:
Have you done some auctions? What people pay in there can heavily indicate what you should price your art at, at first <3


Art pricing help December 7, 2023 09:11 PM


KPH Equestrian
 
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Hey! I'm not the best person for pricing, but I think I can still prove useful^^ (and Versailles posted while I was typing this mess xD)
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In the second example, the horse looks oddly saturated, like the highlights are too bright to be moonlit. Another thing is the mane, I think most people would generally agree the lenth of the mane should follow the curve of the neck, I'm not sure how to explain this so here's a mock up example.
Mane-Lenght-Example.png
instead of the ends mane following a vertical line, it follows the shape of the neck. Sometimes the mane at the middle of the neck is longer than that at the withers and poll, so keep that in mind<3
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Now, I'm not the best a drawing manes(as seen by my most recent piece) digitally, but I am on paper lol. I think the overall flow of the manes(especially the first pic) looks great, the most room for improvement is on the coloring overall but hey, we're all trying our best<3 You'll get better quicker than you realize ;D
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In terms of price, I'd say between 20k-60k depending on the peice and the coloring. Best way to find out is to put a peice up for auction with the SB about 50k and wait a few days, if nobody bids lower it a little bit. Keep doing that until someone bids on it :) They seem to blend pretty well with ther backgrounds so that's something to consider as well, as it does add to the quality of the piece.
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Definitely get the opinion of someone more experienced with art prices than me though ^^; I can't wait to see you progress and get better<3

Edited at December 7, 2023 09:12 PM by KPH Equestrian
Art pricing help December 7, 2023 09:18 PM


Versailles
 
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Improvements will come as you continue to practice. Yes, I'd say keep using auction prices. :) But price AB above where the highest previous bids have been! People will push it higher through time as you practice varying things, like manes and tails, shadows, etc.
Art pricing help December 7, 2023 09:32 PM


ShiningStar Stables
 
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Okay! Thank You 😊
I definitely have a lot to work on, but I feel like it is slowly coming together!

Versailles said:
Improvements will come as you continue to practice. Yes, I'd say keep using auction prices. :) But price AB above where the highest previous bids have been! People will push it higher through time as you practice varying things, like manes and tails, shadows, etc.


Art pricing help December 7, 2023 09:35 PM


ShiningStar Stables
 
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I will definitely keep that mane thing in mind while I am working on my next pieces! As far as that second piece goes, I royally messed up the lighting and couldn't fix it so it came out wonky xD
Oh well, you live and you learn!

KPH Equestrian said:
Hey! I'm not the best person for pricing, but I think I can still prove useful^^ (and Versailles posted while I was typing this mess xD)
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In the second example, the horse looks oddly saturated, like the highlights are too bright to be moonlit. Another thing is the mane, I think most people would generally agree the lenth of the mane should follow the curve of the neck, I'm not sure how to explain this so here's a mock up example.
Art pricing help December 7, 2023 10:00 PM


KPH Equestrian
 
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ShiningStar Stables said:
I will definitely keep that mane thing in mind while I am working on my next pieces! As far as that second piece goes, I royally messed up the lighting and couldn't fix it so it came out wonky xD
Oh well, you live and you learn!

KPH Equestrian said:
Hey! I'm not the best person for pricing, but I think I can still prove useful^^ (and Versailles posted while I was typing this mess xD)
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In the second example, the horse looks oddly saturated, like the highlights are too bright to be moonlit. Another thing is the mane, I think most people would generally agree the lenth of the mane should follow the curve of the neck, I'm not sure how to explain this so here's a mock up example.


haha it definitely happens more than we'd all like to admit xD
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I'm glad you found my advice for the shape of the mane useful! It really helped me a lot when I started out on paper, though I still struggle with tails in motion x'D I can't help but keep going back to the first pic, the mane is just fantastic<3 A little more definition in the hairs and it's perfect :D

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