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Dash and Duchess
05:24:09 DD | ~Squizard~
Ebonshire, sell or keep questions belong in sales :)
Ebonshire Stables
05:14:10 
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Sell or not sell?
Nightingales Ridge
05:11:23 Issy
Gorgeous Amityy
Ebonshire Stables
05:10:48 
This is going to be a Stud For sure!
Ebonshire Stables
05:09:51 
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Holy....
Minerva
05:05:08 Min
Fuuuuuuuck I forgot to geld my futurity foals before I trained them yesterday. Looks like ill not be placing anywhere this month then
Amity Acres
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Oh my goodness... -HEE Click-
Teguan
04:17:54 
Thank you so much!! I really appreciate you guys!
Alpine Acres
04:13:41 Lily
Teguan
just so you know, any crop seeds can always be found under Services>store>crop seed
AP Legacy
04:08:53 ✨ Sassy
I just sent you one <3
AP Legacy
04:08:08 ✨ Sassy
Hey Teguan! You can sometimes find them in the store (Services > Store > Items) or in the members shop (Search > Search Items And Decor)
Teguan
04:05:15 
Hi everyone!
I'm not sure if this is the right chat to ask (I'm sorry if it's the wrong chat)
I just wanted to know where someone can get Cotton seeds?
I need to complete a quest, but I'm not sure where I should go to get them...
Wild_Potatoes
03:21:31 
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Just caught a KNN chimera 😍
Dash and Duchess
03:03:10 DD | ~Squizard~
peggy, XD that must've been a real confusing morning to wake up without any animals to care for lol!
Pegasus Lane
02:59:59 Peggy (or) Peg
I'm in Estonia!

It really is DD 😂😂 I woke up on the plane completely disoriented and got up to do the animals without thinking 😅
Elks
02:47:23 Elky
Cutie -HEE Click-
Minerva
02:46:20 Min
Im very jealous!!
Dash and Duchess
02:45:21 DD | ~Squizard~
Min, it is incredible! We've had an absolute blast!
Minerva
02:43:28 Min
Oooh nice! Italy is definitely on my list- its incredible apparently!
Dash and Duchess
02:42:46 DD | ~Squizard~
Min, right now I'm in italy lol :D

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Dash and Duchess
05:24:09 DD | ~Squizard~
Ebonshire, sell or keep questions belong in sales :)
Ebonshire Stables
05:14:10 
-HEE Click-

Sell or not sell?
Nightingales Ridge
05:11:23 Issy
Gorgeous Amityy
Ebonshire Stables
05:10:48 
This is going to be a Stud For sure!
Ebonshire Stables
05:09:51 
-HEE Click-
Holy....
Minerva
05:05:08 Min
Fuuuuuuuck I forgot to geld my futurity foals before I trained them yesterday. Looks like ill not be placing anywhere this month then
Amity Acres
04:53:14 ☦ Amity ☦
Oh my goodness... -HEE Click-
Teguan
04:17:54 
Thank you so much!! I really appreciate you guys!
Alpine Acres
04:13:41 Lily
Teguan
just so you know, any crop seeds can always be found under Services>store>crop seed
AP Legacy
04:08:53 ✨ Sassy
I just sent you one <3
AP Legacy
04:08:08 ✨ Sassy
Hey Teguan! You can sometimes find them in the store (Services > Store > Items) or in the members shop (Search > Search Items And Decor)
Teguan
04:05:15 
Hi everyone!
I'm not sure if this is the right chat to ask (I'm sorry if it's the wrong chat)
I just wanted to know where someone can get Cotton seeds?
I need to complete a quest, but I'm not sure where I should go to get them...
Wild_Potatoes
03:21:31 
-HEE Click-
Just caught a KNN chimera 😍
Dash and Duchess
03:03:10 DD | ~Squizard~
peggy, XD that must've been a real confusing morning to wake up without any animals to care for lol!
Pegasus Lane
02:59:59 Peggy (or) Peg
I'm in Estonia!

It really is DD 😂😂 I woke up on the plane completely disoriented and got up to do the animals without thinking 😅
Elks
02:47:23 Elky
Cutie -HEE Click-
Minerva
02:46:20 Min
Im very jealous!!
Dash and Duchess
02:45:21 DD | ~Squizard~
Min, it is incredible! We've had an absolute blast!
Minerva
02:43:28 Min
Oooh nice! Italy is definitely on my list- its incredible apparently!
Dash and Duchess
02:42:46 DD | ~Squizard~
Min, right now I'm in italy lol :D

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Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:21 PM


Eastwood Acres
 
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I'm not to good with genetics and just tested her. If someone can help I'd like to know if there's anything special or noteworthy about her genetics :) Thank you in advance!

Edited at February 25, 2024 04:21 PM by Eastwood Acres
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:27 PM


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Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:39 PM


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The Joker said:
Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!


Thank you so much! I appreciate it a lot :)
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 05:01 PM


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Eastwood Acres said:

The Joker said:
Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!


Thank you so much! I appreciate it a lot :)


Of course! Happy to help :) I believe the amber part of her colour is caused by her base colour of Ee which would usually be bay/brown, I may be incorrect though and it may be linked to the agouti gene instead
Genetic Help February 26, 2024 01:28 PM


Clear Springs
 
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Champagnes have weird color names.
Gold Champagne = Chestnut (ee ??) + Champagne gene
Amber Champagne = Bay (E?A?) + Champagne gene
Sable Champagne = Brown (E?At?) + Champagne gene
Classic Champagne = Black (E?aa)+ Champagne gene

So the "Amber" part of her color just means she would be a plain bay horse without the Champagne gene. She's E(black-based) A(agouti) plus Ch(Champagne). She also has that At gene in there which doesn't show on her, but means she could have a brown foal.

The Extension (E/e) gene just determines if a horse is black-based or red-based. If the horse has at least one E gene it's black-based, if ee it's red-based. All horse colors are one or the other with modifiers added for colors besides Black and Chestnut.

The Agouti (A/At/a) gene here is considered only active in black-based horses, so a horse that is red-based (ee) won't express it no matter what alleles are present. What it does is restrict where on the horse black pigment is fully expressed. It limits actual black to the "points" of the horse and leaves the body lacking enough pigment to be truly black, so it's just sort of a faded black color (which appears red, but isn't). So a horse with E?A? is the full-on Agouti color we call "bay" with black points and reddish body. A horse with E?At? has more expression of pigment on the body, has brown "highlights" on the nose, flank, etc and black points and is called "brown". A horse with E?aa is black all over with no restriction from the Agouti gene.

So now we have what E/e and A/At/a are and what they mean to horse colors, you can take all those and apply the modifiers like the white-spotting patterns (Tobiano, Sabino, Frame), Roan, Dun, etc and add in that Champagne has those weird names and so does Cream(CcrC) (Chestnut + Cream = Palomino, Bay + Cream = Buckskin, Brown + Cream = Brown Buckskin, Black + Cream = Smoky Black) and Double Cream(CcrCcr) (Chestnut = Cremello, Bay/Brown = Perlino, Black = Smoky Cream).

Most of the genes here are dominantly-expressed (the capital letter means the horse has that trait), but Pearl is recessive (a horse must have prlprl to be Pearl) and Agouti has 3 alleles, where A overrides the other two, At only overrides a and aa means "non-Agouti).

Hope that helps some people who are still a bit confused. Variable color names don't help. It's like the gene that's called merle in every other dog breed is called dapple in dachshunds. You just have to learn the color names and roll with it.

Edited at February 26, 2024 02:06 PM by Clear Springs
Genetic Help February 26, 2024 10:38 PM


Eastwood Acres
 
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Clear Springs said:
Champagnes have weird color names.
Gold Champagne = Chestnut (ee ??) + Champagne gene
Amber Champagne = Bay (E?A?) + Champagne gene
Sable Champagne = Brown (E?At?) + Champagne gene
Classic Champagne = Black (E?aa)+ Champagne gene

So the "Amber" part of her color just means she would be a plain bay horse without the Champagne gene. She's E(black-based) A(agouti) plus Ch(Champagne). She also has that At gene in there which doesn't show on her, but means she could have a brown foal.

The Extension (E/e) gene just determines if a horse is black-based or red-based. If the horse has at least one E gene it's black-based, if ee it's red-based. All horse colors are one or the other with modifiers added for colors besides Black and Chestnut.

The Agouti (A/At/a) gene here is considered only active in black-based horses, so a horse that is red-based (ee) won't express it no matter what alleles are present. What it does is restrict where on the horse black pigment is fully expressed. It limits actual black to the "points" of the horse and leaves the body lacking enough pigment to be truly black, so it's just sort of a faded black color (which appears red, but isn't). So a horse with E?A? is the full-on Agouti color we call "bay" with black points and reddish body. A horse with E?At? has more expression of pigment on the body, has brown "highlights" on the nose, flank, etc and black points and is called "brown". A horse with E?aa is black all over with no restriction from the Agouti gene.

So now we have what E/e and A/At/a are and what they mean to horse colors, you can take all those and apply the modifiers like the white-spotting patterns (Tobiano, Sabino, Frame), Roan, Dun, etc and add in that Champagne has those weird names and so does Cream(CcrC) (Chestnut + Cream = Palomino, Bay + Cream = Buckskin, Brown + Cream = Brown Buckskin, Black + Cream = Smoky Black) and Double Cream(CcrCcr) (Chestnut = Cremello, Bay/Brown = Perlino, Black = Smoky Cream).

Most of the genes here are dominantly-expressed (the capital letter means the horse has that trait), but Pearl is recessive (a horse must have prlprl to be Pearl) and Agouti has 3 alleles, where A overrides the other two, At only overrides a and aa means "non-Agouti).

Hope that helps some people who are still a bit confused. Variable color names don't help. It's like the gene that's called merle in every other dog breed is called dapple in dachshunds. You just have to learn the color names and roll with it.


Thank you!

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