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Elysium Opalus
12:13:50 anti gen ai
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There is this one that looks like vitiligo but its not. Its very speckly though
Elysium Opalus
12:12:21 anti gen ai
Yeah theyre called pawprints, inkspots, and such

If I remember correctly, belton is the little spots horses sometimes get on their white leg markings or white face markings. Its not genetic you just might get onel I hear it more on dogs thoughl
KPH Equestrian
12:11:57 Rapcoon | Jester
spots on tobi horse are often called cat tracks! :D
pandemoniu_m
12:09:16 pheezy
ohh the little speckles? i've always called em pawprints 😅
pandemoniu_m
12:07:19 pheezy
belton? whats that
Elysium Opalus
12:06:35 anti gen ai
I forgot birdcatcher

Outside of that, this game has roan, new dominant white variants, tobianos where they have the little little spots, belton, vitiligo
Elysium Opalus
12:02:28 anti gen ai
Yeah there are some non-appy patterns
And real life equine mutations that can mimic appy patterns.
Arabs specifically have sabino and manchado
Elysium Opalus
12:00:47 anti gen ai
I love what Ive made of names for my gelding army
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Explode with balloons
Glittercorn Magic
11:57:53 Diva`s Glitter Cave
With manchado I play pretend appy look lol
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Glittercorn Magic
11:55:52 Diva`s Glitter Cave
You can't get appaloosa patterns on AA though like blankets and leopards
Meadowers
11:55:02 
Ohh,alright,thank you guys very much! :3
Glittercorn Magic
11:54:29 Diva`s Glitter Cave
Patterns you can, like splash and tobi etc
KPH Equestrian
11:54:14 Rapcoon | Jester
what patterns specifically? you can't breed an ISH to an AA, you'll just get an ISH, but they can have many of the same patterns like Tobi, Sabino, rabicano, etc
Meadowers
11:52:48 
Could I get a Irish Sport Horse coat onto a Anglo Arabin?
KPH Equestrian
11:50:47 Rapcoon | Jester
like pinto on a knn?
Glittercorn Magic
11:50:39 Diva`s Glitter Cave
In general yes, but it depends what breed, like aa tb and wb can't be appys and such
Meadowers
11:49:08 
Hiii! Does anyone know if you can breed a different species coat onto another species?
The Joker
11:40:57 Ari <3
Ooh pretty
Narran Park
11:40:36 Sting
Yay Diva!
Bugger about the EEAA, but a great start!
Moonrose Magic
11:39:47 🎀 Diva
Hiding pearl, big yay
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Elysium Opalus
12:13:50 anti gen ai
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There is this one that looks like vitiligo but its not. Its very speckly though
Elysium Opalus
12:12:21 anti gen ai
Yeah theyre called pawprints, inkspots, and such

If I remember correctly, belton is the little spots horses sometimes get on their white leg markings or white face markings. Its not genetic you just might get onel I hear it more on dogs thoughl
KPH Equestrian
12:11:57 Rapcoon | Jester
spots on tobi horse are often called cat tracks! :D
pandemoniu_m
12:09:16 pheezy
ohh the little speckles? i've always called em pawprints 😅
pandemoniu_m
12:07:19 pheezy
belton? whats that
Elysium Opalus
12:06:35 anti gen ai
I forgot birdcatcher

Outside of that, this game has roan, new dominant white variants, tobianos where they have the little little spots, belton, vitiligo
Elysium Opalus
12:02:28 anti gen ai
Yeah there are some non-appy patterns
And real life equine mutations that can mimic appy patterns.
Arabs specifically have sabino and manchado
Elysium Opalus
12:00:47 anti gen ai
I love what Ive made of names for my gelding army
-HEE Click-
Explode with balloons
Glittercorn Magic
11:57:53 Diva`s Glitter Cave
With manchado I play pretend appy look lol
-HEE Click-
Glittercorn Magic
11:55:52 Diva`s Glitter Cave
You can't get appaloosa patterns on AA though like blankets and leopards
Meadowers
11:55:02 
Ohh,alright,thank you guys very much! :3
Glittercorn Magic
11:54:29 Diva`s Glitter Cave
Patterns you can, like splash and tobi etc
KPH Equestrian
11:54:14 Rapcoon | Jester
what patterns specifically? you can't breed an ISH to an AA, you'll just get an ISH, but they can have many of the same patterns like Tobi, Sabino, rabicano, etc
Meadowers
11:52:48 
Could I get a Irish Sport Horse coat onto a Anglo Arabin?
KPH Equestrian
11:50:47 Rapcoon | Jester
like pinto on a knn?
Glittercorn Magic
11:50:39 Diva`s Glitter Cave
In general yes, but it depends what breed, like aa tb and wb can't be appys and such
Meadowers
11:49:08 
Hiii! Does anyone know if you can breed a different species coat onto another species?
The Joker
11:40:57 Ari <3
Ooh pretty
Narran Park
11:40:36 Sting
Yay Diva!
Bugger about the EEAA, but a great start!
Moonrose Magic
11:39:47 🎀 Diva
Hiding pearl, big yay
-HEE Click-

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Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:21 PM


Eastwood Acres
 
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I'm not to good with genetics and just tested her. If someone can help I'd like to know if there's anything special or noteworthy about her genetics :) Thank you in advance!

Edited at February 25, 2024 04:21 PM by Eastwood Acres
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:27 PM


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Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:39 PM


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The Joker said:
Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!


Thank you so much! I appreciate it a lot :)
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 05:01 PM


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Eastwood Acres said:

The Joker said:
Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!


Thank you so much! I appreciate it a lot :)


Of course! Happy to help :) I believe the amber part of her colour is caused by her base colour of Ee which would usually be bay/brown, I may be incorrect though and it may be linked to the agouti gene instead
Genetic Help February 26, 2024 01:28 PM


Clear Springs
 
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Champagnes have weird color names.
Gold Champagne = Chestnut (ee ??) + Champagne gene
Amber Champagne = Bay (E?A?) + Champagne gene
Sable Champagne = Brown (E?At?) + Champagne gene
Classic Champagne = Black (E?aa)+ Champagne gene

So the "Amber" part of her color just means she would be a plain bay horse without the Champagne gene. She's E(black-based) A(agouti) plus Ch(Champagne). She also has that At gene in there which doesn't show on her, but means she could have a brown foal.

The Extension (E/e) gene just determines if a horse is black-based or red-based. If the horse has at least one E gene it's black-based, if ee it's red-based. All horse colors are one or the other with modifiers added for colors besides Black and Chestnut.

The Agouti (A/At/a) gene here is considered only active in black-based horses, so a horse that is red-based (ee) won't express it no matter what alleles are present. What it does is restrict where on the horse black pigment is fully expressed. It limits actual black to the "points" of the horse and leaves the body lacking enough pigment to be truly black, so it's just sort of a faded black color (which appears red, but isn't). So a horse with E?A? is the full-on Agouti color we call "bay" with black points and reddish body. A horse with E?At? has more expression of pigment on the body, has brown "highlights" on the nose, flank, etc and black points and is called "brown". A horse with E?aa is black all over with no restriction from the Agouti gene.

So now we have what E/e and A/At/a are and what they mean to horse colors, you can take all those and apply the modifiers like the white-spotting patterns (Tobiano, Sabino, Frame), Roan, Dun, etc and add in that Champagne has those weird names and so does Cream(CcrC) (Chestnut + Cream = Palomino, Bay + Cream = Buckskin, Brown + Cream = Brown Buckskin, Black + Cream = Smoky Black) and Double Cream(CcrCcr) (Chestnut = Cremello, Bay/Brown = Perlino, Black = Smoky Cream).

Most of the genes here are dominantly-expressed (the capital letter means the horse has that trait), but Pearl is recessive (a horse must have prlprl to be Pearl) and Agouti has 3 alleles, where A overrides the other two, At only overrides a and aa means "non-Agouti).

Hope that helps some people who are still a bit confused. Variable color names don't help. It's like the gene that's called merle in every other dog breed is called dapple in dachshunds. You just have to learn the color names and roll with it.

Edited at February 26, 2024 02:06 PM by Clear Springs
Genetic Help February 26, 2024 10:38 PM


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Clear Springs said:
Champagnes have weird color names.
Gold Champagne = Chestnut (ee ??) + Champagne gene
Amber Champagne = Bay (E?A?) + Champagne gene
Sable Champagne = Brown (E?At?) + Champagne gene
Classic Champagne = Black (E?aa)+ Champagne gene

So the "Amber" part of her color just means she would be a plain bay horse without the Champagne gene. She's E(black-based) A(agouti) plus Ch(Champagne). She also has that At gene in there which doesn't show on her, but means she could have a brown foal.

The Extension (E/e) gene just determines if a horse is black-based or red-based. If the horse has at least one E gene it's black-based, if ee it's red-based. All horse colors are one or the other with modifiers added for colors besides Black and Chestnut.

The Agouti (A/At/a) gene here is considered only active in black-based horses, so a horse that is red-based (ee) won't express it no matter what alleles are present. What it does is restrict where on the horse black pigment is fully expressed. It limits actual black to the "points" of the horse and leaves the body lacking enough pigment to be truly black, so it's just sort of a faded black color (which appears red, but isn't). So a horse with E?A? is the full-on Agouti color we call "bay" with black points and reddish body. A horse with E?At? has more expression of pigment on the body, has brown "highlights" on the nose, flank, etc and black points and is called "brown". A horse with E?aa is black all over with no restriction from the Agouti gene.

So now we have what E/e and A/At/a are and what they mean to horse colors, you can take all those and apply the modifiers like the white-spotting patterns (Tobiano, Sabino, Frame), Roan, Dun, etc and add in that Champagne has those weird names and so does Cream(CcrC) (Chestnut + Cream = Palomino, Bay + Cream = Buckskin, Brown + Cream = Brown Buckskin, Black + Cream = Smoky Black) and Double Cream(CcrCcr) (Chestnut = Cremello, Bay/Brown = Perlino, Black = Smoky Cream).

Most of the genes here are dominantly-expressed (the capital letter means the horse has that trait), but Pearl is recessive (a horse must have prlprl to be Pearl) and Agouti has 3 alleles, where A overrides the other two, At only overrides a and aa means "non-Agouti).

Hope that helps some people who are still a bit confused. Variable color names don't help. It's like the gene that's called merle in every other dog breed is called dapple in dachshunds. You just have to learn the color names and roll with it.


Thank you!

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