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FirstLightFarms
01:46:26 puck
Oh thats so good! My guy isnt quite "lob a blanket on" level yet but its so rewarding watching how confident they can become
Minerva
01:45:19 Min
Absolutely haha. I'm really proud of him though- he arrived at the end of May vaguely leadable but pretty much feral and had to live in the field shelter for a week. Now he's out in the field with no headcollar 24/7 and I can lob a rug onto him while he's loose without him lifting his head
Red Horizon Ranch
01:44:39 Red
Yeah Boulder so relatable. I try to let my horse initiate touch and the things we do whenever possible. Like take the extra five minutes to let her walk up to me in the field instead of going out and getting her, pause when she turns her head away when brushing, etc. It changes the game truly and has honestly completely changed how I go about life in general, for the better. Horses have so little autonomy in our world so the little things like that we can do means so much to them. When I’m bridling a horse or anything like that I notice that they will maybe seem like they’re saying no initially by turning away or something. If you notice and respect that a lot of the time they will immediately put their nose in after, where if you had tried to chase after them it probably would escalate. That whole philosophy just means a lot to me
Boulder Creek
01:43:32 
Speaking of training
- I saw incredible training with Dan of Double Dan
What he can do with horses is amazing
I was enthralled with the Road To The Horse exhibition
Silver Melody Acres
01:42:08 Solar - KNNs
Typical gangly teenage boy XD
Minerva
01:40:50 Min
Haha I'll put a bit less pressure on myself then thank you. I'm hoping to get some poles before the end of the year so we can do some proprioception work because my goodness that boy doesn't know where his feet are xD Plus side is he doesn't mind things being around his legs whatsoever since he's so used to wandering into things
Pentagram Stables
01:40:06 Penta - KNNs
No lines, and no chasing. You just don't know our way and I'll leave it at that.
Boulder Creek
01:39:59 
I wasn't a super fan of Warwick until I saw an article heading that said something like Let Your Horse Approach You
(Yes literally only read the title)
And it's made a Huge improvement in my interactions with the horses at the barn.
I can have the stall door open and have them between me at it (huge outdoor pen) and they will chose to come to me and boop my hand without any interaction besides standing still.

And I saw a video where he said don't touch the horse until they touch you and they will tell you where to touch

(Some of it feels woowoo, but it's making a difference in the relationships between the horses and I)
Red Horizon Ranch
01:38:37 Red
Yeah of course, it’s definitely a trust the process kind of exercise you have to be patient and you’ll feel like you’re not doing anything but worth it. I enjoy when training feels more collaborative with our animal friends, worth the time it takes
FirstLightFarms
01:37:19 puck
And seconding Warwick Schiller, he's one of the few clinicians I really respect.
FirstLightFarms
01:36:44 puck
Awww good pony! It just sounds like typical laziness/not being confident enough to carry himself forward. He'll get there!
Minerva
01:35:18 Min
Ooh I'll have a look at that one, thanks Red!
Minerva
01:34:16 Min
Haha exactly Puck! I'm hoping the more we go out the more keen he'll be to get on with it. He's a very good chap overall- and he's even happy to walk out in front of Minnie if I've got someone to lead her. He met his first tractor last night and was a 10/10 brave boy bless him
FirstLightFarms
01:34:09 puck
Unless your lunge lunge is 200 feet long it's gonna be a small circle lol
Red Horizon Ranch
01:33:01 Red
And no chasing, showing them who’s boss, etc. necessary. I really don’t enjoy having to do that kind of thing and good news, you really basically never have to XD
Pentagram Stables
01:32:36 Penta - KNNs
I said nothing about small circles, but whatever.
We have a different view of how to do things with 2 yr olds.
Red Horizon Ranch
01:31:35 Red
I really like Warwick Schiller’s “leading with energy” exercise for staying in the right position/responsiveness when leading, my mate was so “lazy” seeming and wanted to be directly behind me while leading, would pin her ears and swish tail when asked to go forward, it worked incredibly well
Minerva
01:31:33 Min
To be honest the maximum I'd ever lunge any horse is like 20 minutes, and that would be their entire work for the day. It has it's place but isn't my preferred method for anything
FirstLightFarms
01:30:53 puck
Min, he sounds like my pony! Just needs to learn a little responsibility about walking forward instead of being dragged every step 😂
FirstLightFarms
01:30:05 puck
Yeah it'd hurt, small circles are the worst for babies. Great way to do damage to their joints. And chasing a horse on the line isnt exactly the best way to establish you're in charge 🙃

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FirstLightFarms
01:46:26 puck
Oh thats so good! My guy isnt quite "lob a blanket on" level yet but its so rewarding watching how confident they can become
Minerva
01:45:19 Min
Absolutely haha. I'm really proud of him though- he arrived at the end of May vaguely leadable but pretty much feral and had to live in the field shelter for a week. Now he's out in the field with no headcollar 24/7 and I can lob a rug onto him while he's loose without him lifting his head
Red Horizon Ranch
01:44:39 Red
Yeah Boulder so relatable. I try to let my horse initiate touch and the things we do whenever possible. Like take the extra five minutes to let her walk up to me in the field instead of going out and getting her, pause when she turns her head away when brushing, etc. It changes the game truly and has honestly completely changed how I go about life in general, for the better. Horses have so little autonomy in our world so the little things like that we can do means so much to them. When I’m bridling a horse or anything like that I notice that they will maybe seem like they’re saying no initially by turning away or something. If you notice and respect that a lot of the time they will immediately put their nose in after, where if you had tried to chase after them it probably would escalate. That whole philosophy just means a lot to me
Boulder Creek
01:43:32 
Speaking of training
- I saw incredible training with Dan of Double Dan
What he can do with horses is amazing
I was enthralled with the Road To The Horse exhibition
Silver Melody Acres
01:42:08 Solar - KNNs
Typical gangly teenage boy XD
Minerva
01:40:50 Min
Haha I'll put a bit less pressure on myself then thank you. I'm hoping to get some poles before the end of the year so we can do some proprioception work because my goodness that boy doesn't know where his feet are xD Plus side is he doesn't mind things being around his legs whatsoever since he's so used to wandering into things
Pentagram Stables
01:40:06 Penta - KNNs
No lines, and no chasing. You just don't know our way and I'll leave it at that.
Boulder Creek
01:39:59 
I wasn't a super fan of Warwick until I saw an article heading that said something like Let Your Horse Approach You
(Yes literally only read the title)
And it's made a Huge improvement in my interactions with the horses at the barn.
I can have the stall door open and have them between me at it (huge outdoor pen) and they will chose to come to me and boop my hand without any interaction besides standing still.

And I saw a video where he said don't touch the horse until they touch you and they will tell you where to touch

(Some of it feels woowoo, but it's making a difference in the relationships between the horses and I)
Red Horizon Ranch
01:38:37 Red
Yeah of course, it’s definitely a trust the process kind of exercise you have to be patient and you’ll feel like you’re not doing anything but worth it. I enjoy when training feels more collaborative with our animal friends, worth the time it takes
FirstLightFarms
01:37:19 puck
And seconding Warwick Schiller, he's one of the few clinicians I really respect.
FirstLightFarms
01:36:44 puck
Awww good pony! It just sounds like typical laziness/not being confident enough to carry himself forward. He'll get there!
Minerva
01:35:18 Min
Ooh I'll have a look at that one, thanks Red!
Minerva
01:34:16 Min
Haha exactly Puck! I'm hoping the more we go out the more keen he'll be to get on with it. He's a very good chap overall- and he's even happy to walk out in front of Minnie if I've got someone to lead her. He met his first tractor last night and was a 10/10 brave boy bless him
FirstLightFarms
01:34:09 puck
Unless your lunge lunge is 200 feet long it's gonna be a small circle lol
Red Horizon Ranch
01:33:01 Red
And no chasing, showing them who’s boss, etc. necessary. I really don’t enjoy having to do that kind of thing and good news, you really basically never have to XD
Pentagram Stables
01:32:36 Penta - KNNs
I said nothing about small circles, but whatever.
We have a different view of how to do things with 2 yr olds.
Red Horizon Ranch
01:31:35 Red
I really like Warwick Schiller’s “leading with energy” exercise for staying in the right position/responsiveness when leading, my mate was so “lazy” seeming and wanted to be directly behind me while leading, would pin her ears and swish tail when asked to go forward, it worked incredibly well
Minerva
01:31:33 Min
To be honest the maximum I'd ever lunge any horse is like 20 minutes, and that would be their entire work for the day. It has it's place but isn't my preferred method for anything
FirstLightFarms
01:30:53 puck
Min, he sounds like my pony! Just needs to learn a little responsibility about walking forward instead of being dragged every step 😂
FirstLightFarms
01:30:05 puck
Yeah it'd hurt, small circles are the worst for babies. Great way to do damage to their joints. And chasing a horse on the line isnt exactly the best way to establish you're in charge 🙃

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vfiowva February 10, 2024 11:02 PM


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Edited at February 11, 2024 03:07 PM by Amazing Grace Equine
vfiowva February 10, 2024 11:11 PM


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His right side is the weaker side, I've already ridden him quite a few times but the other day when I arrived he made a low nicker at me when he saw me, and we lunged and he managed to pick up both of his leads twice, and we had a nice little walk and I walked him over a small cross rail, and then I brushed him, he absolutely loves being brushed, we could do it for hours (we have) and I picked his feet out for the first time and he lets me touch his ears and everything. and then he watched me leave.
I'm thinking of making his color blue he looks so good in it.
He is getting gelded next week, and then in a couple of weeks, we will finally bring him home.
Fun fact: The name Ryder symbolizes strength and leadership
vfiowva February 11, 2024 07:46 AM


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He's gorgeous, but please don't be riding and jumping a two year old. He has so much growing ahead of him.
vfiowva February 11, 2024 08:13 AM


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He's almost 3 he'll be 3 in the spring, and quarter horses are pretty much done growing by then, and of course I'm not jumping him yet, that the end goal it to get over a cross rail by the end of the year

FirstLightFarms said:
He's gorgeous, but please don't be riding and jumping a two year old. He has so much growing ahead of him.


vfiowva February 11, 2024 11:06 AM


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FirstLightFarms said:
He's gorgeous, but please don't be riding and jumping a two year old. He has so much growing ahead of him.


This 100%
More and more research is coming out about how many bad long term effects of riding early and especially jumping early will cause
He isnt finished growing and the problems it can and will cause down the line are soo not worth it, Ive seen it first hand
He is absolutely darling though <3
Love his lil face marking
vfiowva February 11, 2024 11:26 AM


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Lucky Ranch said:

FirstLightFarms said:
He's gorgeous, but please don't be riding and jumping a two year old. He has so much growing ahead of him.


This 100%
More and more research is coming out about how many bad long term effects of riding early and especially jumping early will cause
He isnt finished growing and the problems it can and will cause down the line are soo not worth it, Ive seen it first hand
He is absolutely darling though <3
Love his lil face marking


yes. And btw, QHs don't stop growing any quicker than other breeds, they take about 8 years to stop growing entirely(mentally as well), but that's mainly the big flat bones that grow slower. You can cause serious issues by riding and jumping(no matter how small) a young horse, typically only polework is done on them until they're about 4 :)
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And remember, it's best to not expect him to do any form of jumping this young, I think hoping to do small(8"-12") crossrails near his 4th birthday would be safer. Don't push him too hard this young, you'll regret it later in his life :)

Edited at February 11, 2024 11:28 AM by KPH Equestrian
vfiowva February 11, 2024 11:37 AM


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KPH Equestrian said:

Lucky Ranch said:

FirstLightFarms said:
He's gorgeous, but please don't be riding and jumping a two year old. He has so much growing ahead of him.


This 100%
More and more research is coming out about how many bad long term effects of riding early and especially jumping early will cause
He isnt finished growing and the problems it can and will cause down the line are soo not worth it, Ive seen it first hand
He is absolutely darling though <3
Love his lil face marking


yes. And btw, QHs don't stop growing any quicker than other breeds, they take about 8 years to stop growing entirely(mentally as well), but that's mainly the big flat bones that grow slower. You can cause serious issues by riding and jumping(no matter how small) a young horse, typically only polework is done on them until they're about 4 :)
-
And remember, it's best to not expect him to do any form of jumping this young, I think hoping to do small(8"-12") crossrails near his 4th birthday would be safer. Don't push him too hard this young, you'll regret it later in his life :)


Just was going to say this, my reiner (a QH obviously lol) didn't fully mature in height and body mass until she was 8 or 9. Mentally, she didn't mature until 6.
vfiowva February 11, 2024 11:46 AM


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DaisyMeadowEventing said:

KPH Equestrian said:

Lucky Ranch said:

FirstLightFarms said:
He's gorgeous, but please don't be riding and jumping a two year old. He has so much growing ahead of him.


This 100%
More and more research is coming out about how many bad long term effects of riding early and especially jumping early will cause
He isnt finished growing and the problems it can and will cause down the line are soo not worth it, Ive seen it first hand
He is absolutely darling though <3
Love his lil face marking


yes. And btw, QHs don't stop growing any quicker than other breeds, they take about 8 years to stop growing entirely(mentally as well), but that's mainly the big flat bones that grow slower. You can cause serious issues by riding and jumping(no matter how small) a young horse, typically only polework is done on them until they're about 4 :)
-
And remember, it's best to not expect him to do any form of jumping this young, I think hoping to do small(8"-12") crossrails near his 4th birthday would be safer. Don't push him too hard this young, you'll regret it later in his life :)


Just was going to say this, my reiner (a QH obviously lol) didn't fully mature in height and body mass until she was 8 or 9. Mentally, she didn't mature until 6.


Allowing them to mentally mature before really getting into the nitty-gritty fine-tuning of their training is always important, it's so easy to screw up a horse mentally by expecting too much, too young. It's like giving a 9-year-old high school/college-level work and expecting decent work, it's not fair to them and metally degrading.
vfiowva February 11, 2024 12:15 PM


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KPH Equestrian said:

DaisyMeadowEventing said:

KPH Equestrian said:

Lucky Ranch said:

FirstLightFarms said:
He's gorgeous, but please don't be riding and jumping a two year old. He has so much growing ahead of him.


This 100%
More and more research is coming out about how many bad long term effects of riding early and especially jumping early will cause
He isnt finished growing and the problems it can and will cause down the line are soo not worth it, Ive seen it first hand
He is absolutely darling though <3
Love his lil face marking


yes. And btw, QHs don't stop growing any quicker than other breeds, they take about 8 years to stop growing entirely(mentally as well), but that's mainly the big flat bones that grow slower. You can cause serious issues by riding and jumping(no matter how small) a young horse, typically only polework is done on them until they're about 4 :)
-
And remember, it's best to not expect him to do any form of jumping this young, I think hoping to do small(8"-12") crossrails near his 4th birthday would be safer. Don't push him too hard this young, you'll regret it later in his life :)


Just was going to say this, my reiner (a QH obviously lol) didn't fully mature in height and body mass until she was 8 or 9. Mentally, she didn't mature until 6.


Allowing them to mentally mature before really getting into the nitty-gritty fine-tuning of their training is always important, it's so easy to screw up a horse mentally by expecting too much, too young. It's like giving a 9-year-old high school/college-level work and expecting decent work, it's not fair to them and metally degrading.


Totally agree. I personally wouldn't start mine till around 4. I feel like even after 6 my mare grew more mentally. But 6 is when I saw her change from a baby to an adult mind. She was still imature though and not always confident in herself. This specific mare is now 15 and is super confident and smart. I would say around 10 is where I felt like I could finally push her and finish her training.
vfiowva February 11, 2024 12:30 PM


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DaisyMeadowEventing said:
Totally agree. I personally wouldn't start mine till around 4. I feel like even after 6 my mare grew more mentally. But 6 is when I saw her change from a baby to an adult mind. She was still imature though and not always confident in herself. This specific mare is now 15 and is super confident and smart. I would say around 10 is where I felt like I could finally push her and finish her training.
My mother bought a 2yo Welsh Pony 11 years ago, and due to a lack of time+3 kids, she never got the chance to work with him very much. A few years ago, she asked my to work with him, and if I got him up to pay with the other ponies, she'd get me my own horse. He was very shy, not confident, and overall the nervous but curious sort. Now, he follows me around everywhere like I'm his dam, lets me kiss his nose(he used to not let anyones face near his) and does tricks, like handshakes and fistbumps. While he was started much later in life than anyone would choose to, I strongly believe that letting him grow up helped him, though some horses aren't that way.

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