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Sunset River Arabian
07:23:03 Athena - AAs
Angels
Sorry I poofed lol
Those look shiny and exciting!!
Narran Park
07:16:33 Sting
Dug this Suggestion up from the past.
-HEE Click-
Angels angels
07:08:23 [1k+ brindles] Angel
One step at a time lol
Get the sabino out then work on the bay xD
Narran Park
07:08:19 Sting
I am pretty happy with this fellow from RO though.
-HEE Click-
Narran Park
07:07:12 Sting
Hopefully!
the EEAA drives me mad, but anyway.
Angels angels
07:06:23 [1k+ brindles] Angel
Oh I hope she does good for you!
Narran Park
07:05:29 Sting
Just bought my first WWW mare. Seeing i can't breed one!
Hopefully her training works out.
A good foundation for the X project.
-HEE Click-
Angels angels
07:04:51 [1k+ brindles] Angel
Yeah lol Ginko is pretty cool too
Narran Park
07:03:50 Sting
Basil is probably one of the coolest chimeras ive seen
Angels angels
07:02:30 [1k+ brindles] Angel
-HEE Click-
-HEE Click-
I have been showing them off all day lol I am TERRIFIED
If they flop I am probably going to quit HEE xDD
Dash and Duchess
07:00:59 DD | ~Squizard~
Angel, I'm totally stalking those 👀
Angels angels
07:00:19 [1k+ brindles] Angel
Athena
I hope so lol one is a tobi (possibly homo) AA match the other is a possibly tobi TB match
Sunset River Arabian
06:59:36 Athena - AAs
Well good luck! You matches have been doing better than mine so you've got to be doing something right lol
Angels angels
06:58:51 [1k+ brindles] Angel
Athena
I do too but I have two matches finally worthy of them this RO so I am going for my first ever svens lol
Sunset River Arabian
06:57:55 Athena - AAs
I might have a small fear of those
Angels angels
06:56:37 [1k+ brindles] Angel
I have to buy two svens too..
Astral Appies
06:53:44 Athena's SA - KNNs
PONs and AAs are done and I'm just waiting on one straw and one glass for the RIDs. Than its all the AAs to match
Angels angels
06:53:16 [1k+ brindles] Angel
All the straws for my matches and the items
Glacier Bay Cove
06:52:53 Arctic Katz
like what, Angels
Angels angels
06:50:55 [1k+ brindles] Angel
I still need to buy everything lol

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Sunset River Arabian
07:23:03 Athena - AAs
Angels
Sorry I poofed lol
Those look shiny and exciting!!
Narran Park
07:16:33 Sting
Dug this Suggestion up from the past.
-HEE Click-
Angels angels
07:08:23 [1k+ brindles] Angel
One step at a time lol
Get the sabino out then work on the bay xD
Narran Park
07:08:19 Sting
I am pretty happy with this fellow from RO though.
-HEE Click-
Narran Park
07:07:12 Sting
Hopefully!
the EEAA drives me mad, but anyway.
Angels angels
07:06:23 [1k+ brindles] Angel
Oh I hope she does good for you!
Narran Park
07:05:29 Sting
Just bought my first WWW mare. Seeing i can't breed one!
Hopefully her training works out.
A good foundation for the X project.
-HEE Click-
Angels angels
07:04:51 [1k+ brindles] Angel
Yeah lol Ginko is pretty cool too
Narran Park
07:03:50 Sting
Basil is probably one of the coolest chimeras ive seen
Angels angels
07:02:30 [1k+ brindles] Angel
-HEE Click-
-HEE Click-
I have been showing them off all day lol I am TERRIFIED
If they flop I am probably going to quit HEE xDD
Dash and Duchess
07:00:59 DD | ~Squizard~
Angel, I'm totally stalking those 👀
Angels angels
07:00:19 [1k+ brindles] Angel
Athena
I hope so lol one is a tobi (possibly homo) AA match the other is a possibly tobi TB match
Sunset River Arabian
06:59:36 Athena - AAs
Well good luck! You matches have been doing better than mine so you've got to be doing something right lol
Angels angels
06:58:51 [1k+ brindles] Angel
Athena
I do too but I have two matches finally worthy of them this RO so I am going for my first ever svens lol
Sunset River Arabian
06:57:55 Athena - AAs
I might have a small fear of those
Angels angels
06:56:37 [1k+ brindles] Angel
I have to buy two svens too..
Astral Appies
06:53:44 Athena's SA - KNNs
PONs and AAs are done and I'm just waiting on one straw and one glass for the RIDs. Than its all the AAs to match
Angels angels
06:53:16 [1k+ brindles] Angel
All the straws for my matches and the items
Glacier Bay Cove
06:52:53 Arctic Katz
like what, Angels
Angels angels
06:50:55 [1k+ brindles] Angel
I still need to buy everything lol

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Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:21 PM


Eastwood Acres
 
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I'm not to good with genetics and just tested her. If someone can help I'd like to know if there's anything special or noteworthy about her genetics :) Thank you in advance!

Edited at February 25, 2024 04:21 PM by Eastwood Acres
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:27 PM


The Joker

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Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:39 PM


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The Joker said:
Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!


Thank you so much! I appreciate it a lot :)
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 05:01 PM


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Eastwood Acres said:

The Joker said:
Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!


Thank you so much! I appreciate it a lot :)


Of course! Happy to help :) I believe the amber part of her colour is caused by her base colour of Ee which would usually be bay/brown, I may be incorrect though and it may be linked to the agouti gene instead
Genetic Help February 26, 2024 01:28 PM


Clear Springs
 
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Champagnes have weird color names.
Gold Champagne = Chestnut (ee ??) + Champagne gene
Amber Champagne = Bay (E?A?) + Champagne gene
Sable Champagne = Brown (E?At?) + Champagne gene
Classic Champagne = Black (E?aa)+ Champagne gene

So the "Amber" part of her color just means she would be a plain bay horse without the Champagne gene. She's E(black-based) A(agouti) plus Ch(Champagne). She also has that At gene in there which doesn't show on her, but means she could have a brown foal.

The Extension (E/e) gene just determines if a horse is black-based or red-based. If the horse has at least one E gene it's black-based, if ee it's red-based. All horse colors are one or the other with modifiers added for colors besides Black and Chestnut.

The Agouti (A/At/a) gene here is considered only active in black-based horses, so a horse that is red-based (ee) won't express it no matter what alleles are present. What it does is restrict where on the horse black pigment is fully expressed. It limits actual black to the "points" of the horse and leaves the body lacking enough pigment to be truly black, so it's just sort of a faded black color (which appears red, but isn't). So a horse with E?A? is the full-on Agouti color we call "bay" with black points and reddish body. A horse with E?At? has more expression of pigment on the body, has brown "highlights" on the nose, flank, etc and black points and is called "brown". A horse with E?aa is black all over with no restriction from the Agouti gene.

So now we have what E/e and A/At/a are and what they mean to horse colors, you can take all those and apply the modifiers like the white-spotting patterns (Tobiano, Sabino, Frame), Roan, Dun, etc and add in that Champagne has those weird names and so does Cream(CcrC) (Chestnut + Cream = Palomino, Bay + Cream = Buckskin, Brown + Cream = Brown Buckskin, Black + Cream = Smoky Black) and Double Cream(CcrCcr) (Chestnut = Cremello, Bay/Brown = Perlino, Black = Smoky Cream).

Most of the genes here are dominantly-expressed (the capital letter means the horse has that trait), but Pearl is recessive (a horse must have prlprl to be Pearl) and Agouti has 3 alleles, where A overrides the other two, At only overrides a and aa means "non-Agouti).

Hope that helps some people who are still a bit confused. Variable color names don't help. It's like the gene that's called merle in every other dog breed is called dapple in dachshunds. You just have to learn the color names and roll with it.

Edited at February 26, 2024 02:06 PM by Clear Springs
Genetic Help February 26, 2024 10:38 PM


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Clear Springs said:
Champagnes have weird color names.
Gold Champagne = Chestnut (ee ??) + Champagne gene
Amber Champagne = Bay (E?A?) + Champagne gene
Sable Champagne = Brown (E?At?) + Champagne gene
Classic Champagne = Black (E?aa)+ Champagne gene

So the "Amber" part of her color just means she would be a plain bay horse without the Champagne gene. She's E(black-based) A(agouti) plus Ch(Champagne). She also has that At gene in there which doesn't show on her, but means she could have a brown foal.

The Extension (E/e) gene just determines if a horse is black-based or red-based. If the horse has at least one E gene it's black-based, if ee it's red-based. All horse colors are one or the other with modifiers added for colors besides Black and Chestnut.

The Agouti (A/At/a) gene here is considered only active in black-based horses, so a horse that is red-based (ee) won't express it no matter what alleles are present. What it does is restrict where on the horse black pigment is fully expressed. It limits actual black to the "points" of the horse and leaves the body lacking enough pigment to be truly black, so it's just sort of a faded black color (which appears red, but isn't). So a horse with E?A? is the full-on Agouti color we call "bay" with black points and reddish body. A horse with E?At? has more expression of pigment on the body, has brown "highlights" on the nose, flank, etc and black points and is called "brown". A horse with E?aa is black all over with no restriction from the Agouti gene.

So now we have what E/e and A/At/a are and what they mean to horse colors, you can take all those and apply the modifiers like the white-spotting patterns (Tobiano, Sabino, Frame), Roan, Dun, etc and add in that Champagne has those weird names and so does Cream(CcrC) (Chestnut + Cream = Palomino, Bay + Cream = Buckskin, Brown + Cream = Brown Buckskin, Black + Cream = Smoky Black) and Double Cream(CcrCcr) (Chestnut = Cremello, Bay/Brown = Perlino, Black = Smoky Cream).

Most of the genes here are dominantly-expressed (the capital letter means the horse has that trait), but Pearl is recessive (a horse must have prlprl to be Pearl) and Agouti has 3 alleles, where A overrides the other two, At only overrides a and aa means "non-Agouti).

Hope that helps some people who are still a bit confused. Variable color names don't help. It's like the gene that's called merle in every other dog breed is called dapple in dachshunds. You just have to learn the color names and roll with it.


Thank you!

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