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Rubygem
06:43:25 Asha ~ Ruby girl :D
gotta go bye
Rubygem
06:43:14 Asha ~ Ruby girl :D
ooo pretty mare soul
Rubygem
06:42:55 Asha ~ Ruby girl :D
Oof lol
Soul Snatcher Ranch
06:42:43 
-HEE Click-
Oh she's on the Leader borad- wasn't expecting that.
Boulder Creek
06:13:02 
...and noticing pastures without gates, and one that has a coup fence which shouldn't be there!

oops
Boulder Creek
06:10:07 
I'm revisiting a farm layout I created a few years ago - it's 94 acres
I'm currently trying to map out the struggle of turning out horses, and more importantly which pastures are for residential horses (because I have too many to put in the barns)

I made myself a little cart and driving it around the map!
Lucky Ducky Lane
06:04:56 
I'm goofing around with COI and my highest LB horses and they are shockingly so far all under 5%
Rainview
05:50:02 Irish Capp
Okkk HEE lol -HEE Click-
Sport Pony Island
05:49:04 
Oh yeah, she's really pretty! Thanks :3
Calela Eventing
05:48:12 Cali
Half American
Rainview
05:47:24 Irish Capp
LOL trying to breed a double P Sabi... -HEE Click-
Sport Pony Island
05:45:51 
Which mare, Cali?
Calela Eventing
05:34:03 Cali
SPI
I can't get over how beautiful your featured mare is
Sport Pony Island
04:57:16 
Yall, only 70k left till i can buy a new barn!!
Dash and Duchess
03:57:33 DD | ~Squizard~
Cali, be careful lol, it's a slippery slope into a fun game of "where'd my ebs go??"
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Unfortunately I've got to poof lol! See ya later :)
Calela Eventing
03:55:50 Cali
speaking of straws, I have become addicted to buying them for no reason
I'm also addicted to using broods
Dash and Duchess
03:48:56 DD | ~Squizard~
Cali, HEE has had it's moments with me 🥲 *cough seven Sven dry spell cough* and yeah, unfortunately his straws are quite hard to come by, I was lucky enough to get mine from Sunny in exchange for some art, but I've rarely seen any sold >.> Oof!! That's awful! RF can be so mean 😭
Calela Eventing
03:46:34 Cali
DD
actually that is so sad, I am so depressed that I missed the Anakin straw. The second embryo I used was bought out of some convincing from a friend *cough cough wink wink* and it turned out awful. It was a WWE WWW match who are proven and it came out EEE and a filly
Dash and Duchess
03:43:55 DD | ~Squizard~
Cali, thank you xD that evil lil thing got the perfect name lol 😂
Dash and Duchess
03:43:14 DD | ~Squizard~
Cali, I cried 😭 the only worse match was an EEE from my AALB girl and Anakin (a now deceased top ABLB stud who's last straw went for 2 mil at auction) I will never forgive Kyvey for that one 😭

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Rubygem
06:43:25 Asha ~ Ruby girl :D
gotta go bye
Rubygem
06:43:14 Asha ~ Ruby girl :D
ooo pretty mare soul
Rubygem
06:42:55 Asha ~ Ruby girl :D
Oof lol
Soul Snatcher Ranch
06:42:43 
-HEE Click-
Oh she's on the Leader borad- wasn't expecting that.
Boulder Creek
06:13:02 
...and noticing pastures without gates, and one that has a coup fence which shouldn't be there!

oops
Boulder Creek
06:10:07 
I'm revisiting a farm layout I created a few years ago - it's 94 acres
I'm currently trying to map out the struggle of turning out horses, and more importantly which pastures are for residential horses (because I have too many to put in the barns)

I made myself a little cart and driving it around the map!
Lucky Ducky Lane
06:04:56 
I'm goofing around with COI and my highest LB horses and they are shockingly so far all under 5%
Rainview
05:50:02 Irish Capp
Okkk HEE lol -HEE Click-
Sport Pony Island
05:49:04 
Oh yeah, she's really pretty! Thanks :3
Calela Eventing
05:48:12 Cali
Half American
Rainview
05:47:24 Irish Capp
LOL trying to breed a double P Sabi... -HEE Click-
Sport Pony Island
05:45:51 
Which mare, Cali?
Calela Eventing
05:34:03 Cali
SPI
I can't get over how beautiful your featured mare is
Sport Pony Island
04:57:16 
Yall, only 70k left till i can buy a new barn!!
Dash and Duchess
03:57:33 DD | ~Squizard~
Cali, be careful lol, it's a slippery slope into a fun game of "where'd my ebs go??"
-
Unfortunately I've got to poof lol! See ya later :)
Calela Eventing
03:55:50 Cali
speaking of straws, I have become addicted to buying them for no reason
I'm also addicted to using broods
Dash and Duchess
03:48:56 DD | ~Squizard~
Cali, HEE has had it's moments with me 🥲 *cough seven Sven dry spell cough* and yeah, unfortunately his straws are quite hard to come by, I was lucky enough to get mine from Sunny in exchange for some art, but I've rarely seen any sold >.> Oof!! That's awful! RF can be so mean 😭
Calela Eventing
03:46:34 Cali
DD
actually that is so sad, I am so depressed that I missed the Anakin straw. The second embryo I used was bought out of some convincing from a friend *cough cough wink wink* and it turned out awful. It was a WWE WWW match who are proven and it came out EEE and a filly
Dash and Duchess
03:43:55 DD | ~Squizard~
Cali, thank you xD that evil lil thing got the perfect name lol 😂
Dash and Duchess
03:43:14 DD | ~Squizard~
Cali, I cried 😭 the only worse match was an EEE from my AALB girl and Anakin (a now deceased top ABLB stud who's last straw went for 2 mil at auction) I will never forgive Kyvey for that one 😭

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Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:21 PM


Eastwood Acres
 
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I'm not to good with genetics and just tested her. If someone can help I'd like to know if there's anything special or noteworthy about her genetics :) Thank you in advance!

Edited at February 25, 2024 04:21 PM by Eastwood Acres
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:27 PM


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Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:39 PM


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The Joker said:
Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!


Thank you so much! I appreciate it a lot :)
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 05:01 PM


The Joker

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Eastwood Acres said:

The Joker said:
Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!


Thank you so much! I appreciate it a lot :)


Of course! Happy to help :) I believe the amber part of her colour is caused by her base colour of Ee which would usually be bay/brown, I may be incorrect though and it may be linked to the agouti gene instead
Genetic Help February 26, 2024 01:28 PM


Clear Springs
 
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Champagnes have weird color names.
Gold Champagne = Chestnut (ee ??) + Champagne gene
Amber Champagne = Bay (E?A?) + Champagne gene
Sable Champagne = Brown (E?At?) + Champagne gene
Classic Champagne = Black (E?aa)+ Champagne gene

So the "Amber" part of her color just means she would be a plain bay horse without the Champagne gene. She's E(black-based) A(agouti) plus Ch(Champagne). She also has that At gene in there which doesn't show on her, but means she could have a brown foal.

The Extension (E/e) gene just determines if a horse is black-based or red-based. If the horse has at least one E gene it's black-based, if ee it's red-based. All horse colors are one or the other with modifiers added for colors besides Black and Chestnut.

The Agouti (A/At/a) gene here is considered only active in black-based horses, so a horse that is red-based (ee) won't express it no matter what alleles are present. What it does is restrict where on the horse black pigment is fully expressed. It limits actual black to the "points" of the horse and leaves the body lacking enough pigment to be truly black, so it's just sort of a faded black color (which appears red, but isn't). So a horse with E?A? is the full-on Agouti color we call "bay" with black points and reddish body. A horse with E?At? has more expression of pigment on the body, has brown "highlights" on the nose, flank, etc and black points and is called "brown". A horse with E?aa is black all over with no restriction from the Agouti gene.

So now we have what E/e and A/At/a are and what they mean to horse colors, you can take all those and apply the modifiers like the white-spotting patterns (Tobiano, Sabino, Frame), Roan, Dun, etc and add in that Champagne has those weird names and so does Cream(CcrC) (Chestnut + Cream = Palomino, Bay + Cream = Buckskin, Brown + Cream = Brown Buckskin, Black + Cream = Smoky Black) and Double Cream(CcrCcr) (Chestnut = Cremello, Bay/Brown = Perlino, Black = Smoky Cream).

Most of the genes here are dominantly-expressed (the capital letter means the horse has that trait), but Pearl is recessive (a horse must have prlprl to be Pearl) and Agouti has 3 alleles, where A overrides the other two, At only overrides a and aa means "non-Agouti).

Hope that helps some people who are still a bit confused. Variable color names don't help. It's like the gene that's called merle in every other dog breed is called dapple in dachshunds. You just have to learn the color names and roll with it.

Edited at February 26, 2024 02:06 PM by Clear Springs
Genetic Help February 26, 2024 10:38 PM


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Clear Springs said:
Champagnes have weird color names.
Gold Champagne = Chestnut (ee ??) + Champagne gene
Amber Champagne = Bay (E?A?) + Champagne gene
Sable Champagne = Brown (E?At?) + Champagne gene
Classic Champagne = Black (E?aa)+ Champagne gene

So the "Amber" part of her color just means she would be a plain bay horse without the Champagne gene. She's E(black-based) A(agouti) plus Ch(Champagne). She also has that At gene in there which doesn't show on her, but means she could have a brown foal.

The Extension (E/e) gene just determines if a horse is black-based or red-based. If the horse has at least one E gene it's black-based, if ee it's red-based. All horse colors are one or the other with modifiers added for colors besides Black and Chestnut.

The Agouti (A/At/a) gene here is considered only active in black-based horses, so a horse that is red-based (ee) won't express it no matter what alleles are present. What it does is restrict where on the horse black pigment is fully expressed. It limits actual black to the "points" of the horse and leaves the body lacking enough pigment to be truly black, so it's just sort of a faded black color (which appears red, but isn't). So a horse with E?A? is the full-on Agouti color we call "bay" with black points and reddish body. A horse with E?At? has more expression of pigment on the body, has brown "highlights" on the nose, flank, etc and black points and is called "brown". A horse with E?aa is black all over with no restriction from the Agouti gene.

So now we have what E/e and A/At/a are and what they mean to horse colors, you can take all those and apply the modifiers like the white-spotting patterns (Tobiano, Sabino, Frame), Roan, Dun, etc and add in that Champagne has those weird names and so does Cream(CcrC) (Chestnut + Cream = Palomino, Bay + Cream = Buckskin, Brown + Cream = Brown Buckskin, Black + Cream = Smoky Black) and Double Cream(CcrCcr) (Chestnut = Cremello, Bay/Brown = Perlino, Black = Smoky Cream).

Most of the genes here are dominantly-expressed (the capital letter means the horse has that trait), but Pearl is recessive (a horse must have prlprl to be Pearl) and Agouti has 3 alleles, where A overrides the other two, At only overrides a and aa means "non-Agouti).

Hope that helps some people who are still a bit confused. Variable color names don't help. It's like the gene that's called merle in every other dog breed is called dapple in dachshunds. You just have to learn the color names and roll with it.


Thank you!

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