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The Grey Guide

February 17, 2020 11:04 PM

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Hi all. InkSpren here. I've noticed that some grey foals actually have grey on their foal images, while others don't. So I got curious. Is there a correlation between the amount of grey on the foal image and the type of grey the horse has as an adult? I used the lense of time on a large number of grey foals, and the answer is yes. Here are the results, with images for illustration. I tried to make the examples uniform (same breed and base color) to keep things simple. All images are cropped from HEE and not altered in any other way. If you have anything to add, let me know!

Edit: I somehow completely forgot about bloody shoulder. I will update this in a few days once I have some more data points.

Edited at March 23, 2020 10:24 PM by Ryshadium RIDs

The Grey Guide

February 17, 2020 11:04 PM

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Lets start at the beginning. A grey foal's foal image can come with four different levels of grey. All of the following foals were listed as grey, and they all have black bases without dun or roan. I gene tested the last foal to be sure.

1. No Grey

2. Moderate Grey #1 (Smooth)

3. Moderate Grey #2 (Chunky)

4. Heavy Grey

Edited at February 17, 2020 11:36 PM by Ryshadium RIDs

The Grey Guide

February 17, 2020 11:04 PM

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No grey on foal

When I used the lense on grey foals whose foal images did not show any grey, the adult images came out as either dark dapple, fleabitten, or what I call roany-grey with lots of base showing through (and no, these horses did not actually have roan.) There are two versions of dark dapple and two versions of roany-grey. Here are some foals and their adult images; foals on top and adult underneath.

Edited at February 18, 2020 12:19 AM by Ryshadium RIDs

The Grey Guide

February 17, 2020 11:04 PM

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Moderate Grey #1 (Smooth)

All foals with smooth moderate grey grew up to be fleabitten.

Edited at February 17, 2020 11:48 PM by Ryshadium RIDs

The Grey Guide

February 17, 2020 11:05 PM

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Moderate Grey #2 (Chunky)

All foals with chunky moderate grey grew up to be very lightly dappled with some of the base color showing through on the legs.

Edited at February 17, 2020 11:51 PM by Ryshadium RIDs

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February 17, 2020 11:05 PM

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Heavy Grey

All foals with heavy grey completely greyed out. In other words, they turned "white."

Edited at February 17, 2020 11:54 PM by Ryshadium RIDs

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February 17, 2020 11:05 PM

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Now, you might have noticed that both "no grey" and "moderate grey smooth" foals can become fleabitten. But do they become the same fleabitten? No. Here they are side by side for comparison. Both foals had the same base color. You can go back and review the foal images in their respective categories in previous posts.

No grey on foal image

Moderate grey smooth on foal image