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Glacier Bay Valley
09:41:37 The Brindle Princess
Fetch quests are the BEST
God is Mighty Stable
09:38:52 Willow ~ KNN Breeder
Angel
Feel that, >-<
Angels angels
09:38:29 [1k+ brindles] Angel
I do too but they use up all my skips because I skip one and get another right after
Glacier Bay Valley
09:37:25 The Brindle Princess
I tend to skip those quests, Angels
Glacier Bay Valley
09:34:06 The Brindle Princess
Yay
Angels angels
09:33:59 [1k+ brindles] Angel
I absolutely despise the HEWG ones. They are so damn common and no one does them! I get them back to back every single day and it pisses me off. Along with the other special shows ones and feds/futs ones
God is Mighty Stable
09:33:55 Willow ~ KNN Breeder
Yay, two fetch quest
Bluegrass Racing
09:32:51 Blue
Willow - 100% xD they just poof into thin air
God is Mighty Stable
09:31:01 Willow ~ KNN Breeder
Explore drives me crazy, :P
All the ebs and rusty bits go missing once I get it
Bluegrass Racing
09:30:46 Blue
Games, HEWG, W with a coat captures, and high showing results are the only ones I dont like. Breedings probbly my fav as long as a rating isnt attached, thats rather tricky lol but still give them a go. explore is nice
Angels angels
09:30:29 [1k+ brindles] Angel
I do some of the bravery or explore quests but not all
Glacier Bay Valley
09:28:59 The Brindle Princess
And also bravery/explore quests
Glacier Bay Valley
09:28:33 The Brindle Princess
Breeding quests are also nice
God is Mighty Stable
09:28:24 Willow ~ KNN Breeder
Breeding quest are my favorite
Angels angels
09:27:54 [1k+ brindles] Angel
I do not like craft quests lol I love the breeding quests
Bluegrass Racing
09:26:48 Blue
Ugh I hate when i get back to back HEWG quests and they took my last skips. At least I have 10k to waste.
Glacier Bay Valley
09:26:39 The Brindle Princess
Yay, Willow
God is Mighty Stable
09:26:33 Willow ~ KNN Breeder
-HEE Click-
Aww, my first show gelding just won 1st at his first show, lol
Glacier Bay Valley
09:26:26 The Brindle Princess
I love crafting quests
God is Mighty Stable
09:25:19 Willow ~ KNN Breeder
Yay, my horses made 9k profit last night

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Glacier Bay Valley
09:41:37 The Brindle Princess
Fetch quests are the BEST
God is Mighty Stable
09:38:52 Willow ~ KNN Breeder
Angel
Feel that, >-<
Angels angels
09:38:29 [1k+ brindles] Angel
I do too but they use up all my skips because I skip one and get another right after
Glacier Bay Valley
09:37:25 The Brindle Princess
I tend to skip those quests, Angels
Glacier Bay Valley
09:34:06 The Brindle Princess
Yay
Angels angels
09:33:59 [1k+ brindles] Angel
I absolutely despise the HEWG ones. They are so damn common and no one does them! I get them back to back every single day and it pisses me off. Along with the other special shows ones and feds/futs ones
God is Mighty Stable
09:33:55 Willow ~ KNN Breeder
Yay, two fetch quest
Bluegrass Racing
09:32:51 Blue
Willow - 100% xD they just poof into thin air
God is Mighty Stable
09:31:01 Willow ~ KNN Breeder
Explore drives me crazy, :P
All the ebs and rusty bits go missing once I get it
Bluegrass Racing
09:30:46 Blue
Games, HEWG, W with a coat captures, and high showing results are the only ones I dont like. Breedings probbly my fav as long as a rating isnt attached, thats rather tricky lol but still give them a go. explore is nice
Angels angels
09:30:29 [1k+ brindles] Angel
I do some of the bravery or explore quests but not all
Glacier Bay Valley
09:28:59 The Brindle Princess
And also bravery/explore quests
Glacier Bay Valley
09:28:33 The Brindle Princess
Breeding quests are also nice
God is Mighty Stable
09:28:24 Willow ~ KNN Breeder
Breeding quest are my favorite
Angels angels
09:27:54 [1k+ brindles] Angel
I do not like craft quests lol I love the breeding quests
Bluegrass Racing
09:26:48 Blue
Ugh I hate when i get back to back HEWG quests and they took my last skips. At least I have 10k to waste.
Glacier Bay Valley
09:26:39 The Brindle Princess
Yay, Willow
God is Mighty Stable
09:26:33 Willow ~ KNN Breeder
-HEE Click-
Aww, my first show gelding just won 1st at his first show, lol
Glacier Bay Valley
09:26:26 The Brindle Princess
I love crafting quests
God is Mighty Stable
09:25:19 Willow ~ KNN Breeder
Yay, my horses made 9k profit last night

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Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:21 PM


Eastwood Acres
 
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I'm not to good with genetics and just tested her. If someone can help I'd like to know if there's anything special or noteworthy about her genetics :) Thank you in advance!

Edited at February 25, 2024 04:21 PM by Eastwood Acres
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:27 PM


The Joker

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Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:39 PM


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The Joker said:
Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!


Thank you so much! I appreciate it a lot :)
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 05:01 PM


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Eastwood Acres said:

The Joker said:
Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!


Thank you so much! I appreciate it a lot :)


Of course! Happy to help :) I believe the amber part of her colour is caused by her base colour of Ee which would usually be bay/brown, I may be incorrect though and it may be linked to the agouti gene instead
Genetic Help February 26, 2024 01:28 PM


Clear Springs
 
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Champagnes have weird color names.
Gold Champagne = Chestnut (ee ??) + Champagne gene
Amber Champagne = Bay (E?A?) + Champagne gene
Sable Champagne = Brown (E?At?) + Champagne gene
Classic Champagne = Black (E?aa)+ Champagne gene

So the "Amber" part of her color just means she would be a plain bay horse without the Champagne gene. She's E(black-based) A(agouti) plus Ch(Champagne). She also has that At gene in there which doesn't show on her, but means she could have a brown foal.

The Extension (E/e) gene just determines if a horse is black-based or red-based. If the horse has at least one E gene it's black-based, if ee it's red-based. All horse colors are one or the other with modifiers added for colors besides Black and Chestnut.

The Agouti (A/At/a) gene here is considered only active in black-based horses, so a horse that is red-based (ee) won't express it no matter what alleles are present. What it does is restrict where on the horse black pigment is fully expressed. It limits actual black to the "points" of the horse and leaves the body lacking enough pigment to be truly black, so it's just sort of a faded black color (which appears red, but isn't). So a horse with E?A? is the full-on Agouti color we call "bay" with black points and reddish body. A horse with E?At? has more expression of pigment on the body, has brown "highlights" on the nose, flank, etc and black points and is called "brown". A horse with E?aa is black all over with no restriction from the Agouti gene.

So now we have what E/e and A/At/a are and what they mean to horse colors, you can take all those and apply the modifiers like the white-spotting patterns (Tobiano, Sabino, Frame), Roan, Dun, etc and add in that Champagne has those weird names and so does Cream(CcrC) (Chestnut + Cream = Palomino, Bay + Cream = Buckskin, Brown + Cream = Brown Buckskin, Black + Cream = Smoky Black) and Double Cream(CcrCcr) (Chestnut = Cremello, Bay/Brown = Perlino, Black = Smoky Cream).

Most of the genes here are dominantly-expressed (the capital letter means the horse has that trait), but Pearl is recessive (a horse must have prlprl to be Pearl) and Agouti has 3 alleles, where A overrides the other two, At only overrides a and aa means "non-Agouti).

Hope that helps some people who are still a bit confused. Variable color names don't help. It's like the gene that's called merle in every other dog breed is called dapple in dachshunds. You just have to learn the color names and roll with it.

Edited at February 26, 2024 02:06 PM by Clear Springs
Genetic Help February 26, 2024 10:38 PM


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Clear Springs said:
Champagnes have weird color names.
Gold Champagne = Chestnut (ee ??) + Champagne gene
Amber Champagne = Bay (E?A?) + Champagne gene
Sable Champagne = Brown (E?At?) + Champagne gene
Classic Champagne = Black (E?aa)+ Champagne gene

So the "Amber" part of her color just means she would be a plain bay horse without the Champagne gene. She's E(black-based) A(agouti) plus Ch(Champagne). She also has that At gene in there which doesn't show on her, but means she could have a brown foal.

The Extension (E/e) gene just determines if a horse is black-based or red-based. If the horse has at least one E gene it's black-based, if ee it's red-based. All horse colors are one or the other with modifiers added for colors besides Black and Chestnut.

The Agouti (A/At/a) gene here is considered only active in black-based horses, so a horse that is red-based (ee) won't express it no matter what alleles are present. What it does is restrict where on the horse black pigment is fully expressed. It limits actual black to the "points" of the horse and leaves the body lacking enough pigment to be truly black, so it's just sort of a faded black color (which appears red, but isn't). So a horse with E?A? is the full-on Agouti color we call "bay" with black points and reddish body. A horse with E?At? has more expression of pigment on the body, has brown "highlights" on the nose, flank, etc and black points and is called "brown". A horse with E?aa is black all over with no restriction from the Agouti gene.

So now we have what E/e and A/At/a are and what they mean to horse colors, you can take all those and apply the modifiers like the white-spotting patterns (Tobiano, Sabino, Frame), Roan, Dun, etc and add in that Champagne has those weird names and so does Cream(CcrC) (Chestnut + Cream = Palomino, Bay + Cream = Buckskin, Brown + Cream = Brown Buckskin, Black + Cream = Smoky Black) and Double Cream(CcrCcr) (Chestnut = Cremello, Bay/Brown = Perlino, Black = Smoky Cream).

Most of the genes here are dominantly-expressed (the capital letter means the horse has that trait), but Pearl is recessive (a horse must have prlprl to be Pearl) and Agouti has 3 alleles, where A overrides the other two, At only overrides a and aa means "non-Agouti).

Hope that helps some people who are still a bit confused. Variable color names don't help. It's like the gene that's called merle in every other dog breed is called dapple in dachshunds. You just have to learn the color names and roll with it.


Thank you!

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