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06:50:05 Ariel / Tara
AL, wish he went all up to be fair
ArcticLights
06:49:38 Ceci / (Call me) AL
Viktor is not oof
Paradise Stables
06:48:55 Ariel / Tara
-HEE Click-

That's a slight oof too
Paradise Stables
06:45:03 Ariel / Tara
-HEE Click-

That's an oof.. but I guess I didn't have big expectations anyway
Winterfell yard
06:37:07 
I play wolfplay 24/7 so this one's a bit different to me
Winterfell yard
06:36:44 
ZZ
I'll try and get where I want to thank you for helping me
ZequineZ
06:35:51 ZEZ - ZZ
Stable > stable activities > stable colours
Calela Eventing
06:35:26 Cali
Where on earth are all the Vassilis straws!!??
ZequineZ
06:35:25 ZEZ - ZZ
Considering there’s a lot of strong EEW and even EWW studs for free, plenty with no requirements, PEE isn’t a bad place to start
Tamarack Mountain
06:35:00 Opal
heck ya -HEE Click-
Winterfell yard
06:34:53 
*rather
Winterfell yard
06:34:45 
Thank you all so much for your help :) one last question how an earth do I change my flag colours these are ranger ugly xD
Silver Melody Acres
06:33:05 Solar - KNNs
PEEs make good quest or gelding breeders, and you might get lucky and get a EEE out of her
Deep Ocean
06:32:52 ♘Tosk
sabino is pretty common, to be honest. And if you want WWWs i would start off with EEE if not EEW even.
Winterfell yard
06:31:39 
Tosk
Is like to breed for her colour and of course her WWW at somepoint
Lunalovegood
06:30:48 Loony/Loony Tune
*Tosk
I don’t know how I spelt your nickname that incorrectly
Deep Ocean
06:30:45 ♘Tosk
honestly depends on what you are breeding for, Winterfell. Most EEE broods go for 1k to 2k nowadays, i wouldn't bother with a PEE at this point unless you want to breed her lineage up.
Winterfell yard
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ZZ
Awh perfect thank you ^.^
ZequineZ
06:29:00 ZEZ - ZZ
Winterfell, she’s a keeper I say, especially for a newer stable
Lunalovegood
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Rosi I’d offer but my premium ran out

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Paradise Stables
06:50:05 Ariel / Tara
AL, wish he went all up to be fair
ArcticLights
06:49:38 Ceci / (Call me) AL
Viktor is not oof
Paradise Stables
06:48:55 Ariel / Tara
-HEE Click-

That's a slight oof too
Paradise Stables
06:45:03 Ariel / Tara
-HEE Click-

That's an oof.. but I guess I didn't have big expectations anyway
Winterfell yard
06:37:07 
I play wolfplay 24/7 so this one's a bit different to me
Winterfell yard
06:36:44 
ZZ
I'll try and get where I want to thank you for helping me
ZequineZ
06:35:51 ZEZ - ZZ
Stable > stable activities > stable colours
Calela Eventing
06:35:26 Cali
Where on earth are all the Vassilis straws!!??
ZequineZ
06:35:25 ZEZ - ZZ
Considering there’s a lot of strong EEW and even EWW studs for free, plenty with no requirements, PEE isn’t a bad place to start
Tamarack Mountain
06:35:00 Opal
heck ya -HEE Click-
Winterfell yard
06:34:53 
*rather
Winterfell yard
06:34:45 
Thank you all so much for your help :) one last question how an earth do I change my flag colours these are ranger ugly xD
Silver Melody Acres
06:33:05 Solar - KNNs
PEEs make good quest or gelding breeders, and you might get lucky and get a EEE out of her
Deep Ocean
06:32:52 ♘Tosk
sabino is pretty common, to be honest. And if you want WWWs i would start off with EEE if not EEW even.
Winterfell yard
06:31:39 
Tosk
Is like to breed for her colour and of course her WWW at somepoint
Lunalovegood
06:30:48 Loony/Loony Tune
*Tosk
I don’t know how I spelt your nickname that incorrectly
Deep Ocean
06:30:45 ♘Tosk
honestly depends on what you are breeding for, Winterfell. Most EEE broods go for 1k to 2k nowadays, i wouldn't bother with a PEE at this point unless you want to breed her lineage up.
Winterfell yard
06:29:40 
ZZ
Awh perfect thank you ^.^
ZequineZ
06:29:00 ZEZ - ZZ
Winterfell, she’s a keeper I say, especially for a newer stable
Lunalovegood
06:28:30 Loony/Loony Tune
Rosi I’d offer but my premium ran out

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Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:21 PM


Eastwood Acres
 
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I'm not to good with genetics and just tested her. If someone can help I'd like to know if there's anything special or noteworthy about her genetics :) Thank you in advance!

Edited at February 25, 2024 04:21 PM by Eastwood Acres
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:27 PM


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Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:39 PM


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The Joker said:
Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!


Thank you so much! I appreciate it a lot :)
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 05:01 PM


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Eastwood Acres said:

The Joker said:
Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!


Thank you so much! I appreciate it a lot :)


Of course! Happy to help :) I believe the amber part of her colour is caused by her base colour of Ee which would usually be bay/brown, I may be incorrect though and it may be linked to the agouti gene instead
Genetic Help February 26, 2024 01:28 PM


Clear Springs
 
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Champagnes have weird color names.
Gold Champagne = Chestnut (ee ??) + Champagne gene
Amber Champagne = Bay (E?A?) + Champagne gene
Sable Champagne = Brown (E?At?) + Champagne gene
Classic Champagne = Black (E?aa)+ Champagne gene

So the "Amber" part of her color just means she would be a plain bay horse without the Champagne gene. She's E(black-based) A(agouti) plus Ch(Champagne). She also has that At gene in there which doesn't show on her, but means she could have a brown foal.

The Extension (E/e) gene just determines if a horse is black-based or red-based. If the horse has at least one E gene it's black-based, if ee it's red-based. All horse colors are one or the other with modifiers added for colors besides Black and Chestnut.

The Agouti (A/At/a) gene here is considered only active in black-based horses, so a horse that is red-based (ee) won't express it no matter what alleles are present. What it does is restrict where on the horse black pigment is fully expressed. It limits actual black to the "points" of the horse and leaves the body lacking enough pigment to be truly black, so it's just sort of a faded black color (which appears red, but isn't). So a horse with E?A? is the full-on Agouti color we call "bay" with black points and reddish body. A horse with E?At? has more expression of pigment on the body, has brown "highlights" on the nose, flank, etc and black points and is called "brown". A horse with E?aa is black all over with no restriction from the Agouti gene.

So now we have what E/e and A/At/a are and what they mean to horse colors, you can take all those and apply the modifiers like the white-spotting patterns (Tobiano, Sabino, Frame), Roan, Dun, etc and add in that Champagne has those weird names and so does Cream(CcrC) (Chestnut + Cream = Palomino, Bay + Cream = Buckskin, Brown + Cream = Brown Buckskin, Black + Cream = Smoky Black) and Double Cream(CcrCcr) (Chestnut = Cremello, Bay/Brown = Perlino, Black = Smoky Cream).

Most of the genes here are dominantly-expressed (the capital letter means the horse has that trait), but Pearl is recessive (a horse must have prlprl to be Pearl) and Agouti has 3 alleles, where A overrides the other two, At only overrides a and aa means "non-Agouti).

Hope that helps some people who are still a bit confused. Variable color names don't help. It's like the gene that's called merle in every other dog breed is called dapple in dachshunds. You just have to learn the color names and roll with it.

Edited at February 26, 2024 02:06 PM by Clear Springs
Genetic Help February 26, 2024 10:38 PM


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Clear Springs said:
Champagnes have weird color names.
Gold Champagne = Chestnut (ee ??) + Champagne gene
Amber Champagne = Bay (E?A?) + Champagne gene
Sable Champagne = Brown (E?At?) + Champagne gene
Classic Champagne = Black (E?aa)+ Champagne gene

So the "Amber" part of her color just means she would be a plain bay horse without the Champagne gene. She's E(black-based) A(agouti) plus Ch(Champagne). She also has that At gene in there which doesn't show on her, but means she could have a brown foal.

The Extension (E/e) gene just determines if a horse is black-based or red-based. If the horse has at least one E gene it's black-based, if ee it's red-based. All horse colors are one or the other with modifiers added for colors besides Black and Chestnut.

The Agouti (A/At/a) gene here is considered only active in black-based horses, so a horse that is red-based (ee) won't express it no matter what alleles are present. What it does is restrict where on the horse black pigment is fully expressed. It limits actual black to the "points" of the horse and leaves the body lacking enough pigment to be truly black, so it's just sort of a faded black color (which appears red, but isn't). So a horse with E?A? is the full-on Agouti color we call "bay" with black points and reddish body. A horse with E?At? has more expression of pigment on the body, has brown "highlights" on the nose, flank, etc and black points and is called "brown". A horse with E?aa is black all over with no restriction from the Agouti gene.

So now we have what E/e and A/At/a are and what they mean to horse colors, you can take all those and apply the modifiers like the white-spotting patterns (Tobiano, Sabino, Frame), Roan, Dun, etc and add in that Champagne has those weird names and so does Cream(CcrC) (Chestnut + Cream = Palomino, Bay + Cream = Buckskin, Brown + Cream = Brown Buckskin, Black + Cream = Smoky Black) and Double Cream(CcrCcr) (Chestnut = Cremello, Bay/Brown = Perlino, Black = Smoky Cream).

Most of the genes here are dominantly-expressed (the capital letter means the horse has that trait), but Pearl is recessive (a horse must have prlprl to be Pearl) and Agouti has 3 alleles, where A overrides the other two, At only overrides a and aa means "non-Agouti).

Hope that helps some people who are still a bit confused. Variable color names don't help. It's like the gene that's called merle in every other dog breed is called dapple in dachshunds. You just have to learn the color names and roll with it.


Thank you!

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