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Greenheart Stables
03:11:51 Green|Gren|Grenlin
I see TBs are winning for once 😭
Sunshinez
03:10:11 
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I am happy with my girl,
Golden Rose
03:09:31 Rose/Goldy
Holy shit? So happy!! And she is ToTo -HEE Click- <3333
Minerva
03:08:33 Min
Ooh each of my WWW girls had one of the WWW babies thats even nicer
pandemoniu_m
03:08:29 pheezy
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damnit why do you have to be so beautiful 🥲
Calela Eventing
03:08:27 Cali
My 2 year olds look so adult! I can't, I miss those baby faces already
Minerva
03:07:50 Min
Congratulations everyone!!!
WolfRunner Acres
03:07:07 
I only had one turn 3 lol
Rising Stars Stable
03:05:52 Willow ~ AA Breeder
Pheezy
Me too!!!
Congratulations
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Namerik Stables
03:05:50 Rose
are you kidding me!!! got lots EEE but not a single W Raaa i feel like throwing a table
Daesung Wings
03:04:45 Dae
Min all my matches on my side accounts have failed so far, but Im looking at the positives lol
pandemoniu_m
03:04:10 pheezy
bred my first WWW
:3
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Rising Stars Stable
03:04:06 Willow ~ AA Breeder
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Couldn't just be a filly
Minerva
03:03:56 Min
Seems like lots of people are having fab results!
Daesung Wings
03:03:36 Dae
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Wooo! WBs did not disappoint!
The Joker
03:03:11 Ari <3
Oh wow! That's incredibly great then, I'm so pleased you got such great results!
Kiwi Mountains
03:03:07 Kiwi
2/5 matches were WWW for me
Calela Eventing
03:03:01 Cali
The RF gods are on vacation!!! Yesss, WWW's here I come
Minerva
03:02:45 Min
Haha I wish i was rich enough to do that Ari! All with meds- the one svenned one (which was a repeat of another WWW producing match) came out EEW 🙈
Rivercreek Ranch
03:02:13 
To geld or keep as a stally, not too sure.. -HEE Click-

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Greenheart Stables
03:11:51 Green|Gren|Grenlin
I see TBs are winning for once 😭
Sunshinez
03:10:11 
-HEE Click-
I am happy with my girl,
Golden Rose
03:09:31 Rose/Goldy
Holy shit? So happy!! And she is ToTo -HEE Click- <3333
Minerva
03:08:33 Min
Ooh each of my WWW girls had one of the WWW babies thats even nicer
pandemoniu_m
03:08:29 pheezy
-HEE Click-
damnit why do you have to be so beautiful 🥲
Calela Eventing
03:08:27 Cali
My 2 year olds look so adult! I can't, I miss those baby faces already
Minerva
03:07:50 Min
Congratulations everyone!!!
WolfRunner Acres
03:07:07 
I only had one turn 3 lol
Rising Stars Stable
03:05:52 Willow ~ AA Breeder
Pheezy
Me too!!!
Congratulations
-HEE Click-
Namerik Stables
03:05:50 Rose
are you kidding me!!! got lots EEE but not a single W Raaa i feel like throwing a table
Daesung Wings
03:04:45 Dae
Min all my matches on my side accounts have failed so far, but Im looking at the positives lol
pandemoniu_m
03:04:10 pheezy
bred my first WWW
:3
-HEE Click-
Rising Stars Stable
03:04:06 Willow ~ AA Breeder
-HEE Click-
Couldn't just be a filly
Minerva
03:03:56 Min
Seems like lots of people are having fab results!
Daesung Wings
03:03:36 Dae
-HEE Click-
-HEE Click-
Wooo! WBs did not disappoint!
The Joker
03:03:11 Ari <3
Oh wow! That's incredibly great then, I'm so pleased you got such great results!
Kiwi Mountains
03:03:07 Kiwi
2/5 matches were WWW for me
Calela Eventing
03:03:01 Cali
The RF gods are on vacation!!! Yesss, WWW's here I come
Minerva
03:02:45 Min
Haha I wish i was rich enough to do that Ari! All with meds- the one svenned one (which was a repeat of another WWW producing match) came out EEW 🙈
Rivercreek Ranch
03:02:13 
To geld or keep as a stally, not too sure.. -HEE Click-

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Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:21 PM


Eastwood Acres
 
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I'm not to good with genetics and just tested her. If someone can help I'd like to know if there's anything special or noteworthy about her genetics :) Thank you in advance!

Edited at February 25, 2024 04:21 PM by Eastwood Acres
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:27 PM


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Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:39 PM


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The Joker said:
Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!


Thank you so much! I appreciate it a lot :)
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 05:01 PM


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Eastwood Acres said:

The Joker said:
Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!


Thank you so much! I appreciate it a lot :)


Of course! Happy to help :) I believe the amber part of her colour is caused by her base colour of Ee which would usually be bay/brown, I may be incorrect though and it may be linked to the agouti gene instead
Genetic Help February 26, 2024 01:28 PM


Clear Springs
 
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Champagnes have weird color names.
Gold Champagne = Chestnut (ee ??) + Champagne gene
Amber Champagne = Bay (E?A?) + Champagne gene
Sable Champagne = Brown (E?At?) + Champagne gene
Classic Champagne = Black (E?aa)+ Champagne gene

So the "Amber" part of her color just means she would be a plain bay horse without the Champagne gene. She's E(black-based) A(agouti) plus Ch(Champagne). She also has that At gene in there which doesn't show on her, but means she could have a brown foal.

The Extension (E/e) gene just determines if a horse is black-based or red-based. If the horse has at least one E gene it's black-based, if ee it's red-based. All horse colors are one or the other with modifiers added for colors besides Black and Chestnut.

The Agouti (A/At/a) gene here is considered only active in black-based horses, so a horse that is red-based (ee) won't express it no matter what alleles are present. What it does is restrict where on the horse black pigment is fully expressed. It limits actual black to the "points" of the horse and leaves the body lacking enough pigment to be truly black, so it's just sort of a faded black color (which appears red, but isn't). So a horse with E?A? is the full-on Agouti color we call "bay" with black points and reddish body. A horse with E?At? has more expression of pigment on the body, has brown "highlights" on the nose, flank, etc and black points and is called "brown". A horse with E?aa is black all over with no restriction from the Agouti gene.

So now we have what E/e and A/At/a are and what they mean to horse colors, you can take all those and apply the modifiers like the white-spotting patterns (Tobiano, Sabino, Frame), Roan, Dun, etc and add in that Champagne has those weird names and so does Cream(CcrC) (Chestnut + Cream = Palomino, Bay + Cream = Buckskin, Brown + Cream = Brown Buckskin, Black + Cream = Smoky Black) and Double Cream(CcrCcr) (Chestnut = Cremello, Bay/Brown = Perlino, Black = Smoky Cream).

Most of the genes here are dominantly-expressed (the capital letter means the horse has that trait), but Pearl is recessive (a horse must have prlprl to be Pearl) and Agouti has 3 alleles, where A overrides the other two, At only overrides a and aa means "non-Agouti).

Hope that helps some people who are still a bit confused. Variable color names don't help. It's like the gene that's called merle in every other dog breed is called dapple in dachshunds. You just have to learn the color names and roll with it.

Edited at February 26, 2024 02:06 PM by Clear Springs
Genetic Help February 26, 2024 10:38 PM


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Clear Springs said:
Champagnes have weird color names.
Gold Champagne = Chestnut (ee ??) + Champagne gene
Amber Champagne = Bay (E?A?) + Champagne gene
Sable Champagne = Brown (E?At?) + Champagne gene
Classic Champagne = Black (E?aa)+ Champagne gene

So the "Amber" part of her color just means she would be a plain bay horse without the Champagne gene. She's E(black-based) A(agouti) plus Ch(Champagne). She also has that At gene in there which doesn't show on her, but means she could have a brown foal.

The Extension (E/e) gene just determines if a horse is black-based or red-based. If the horse has at least one E gene it's black-based, if ee it's red-based. All horse colors are one or the other with modifiers added for colors besides Black and Chestnut.

The Agouti (A/At/a) gene here is considered only active in black-based horses, so a horse that is red-based (ee) won't express it no matter what alleles are present. What it does is restrict where on the horse black pigment is fully expressed. It limits actual black to the "points" of the horse and leaves the body lacking enough pigment to be truly black, so it's just sort of a faded black color (which appears red, but isn't). So a horse with E?A? is the full-on Agouti color we call "bay" with black points and reddish body. A horse with E?At? has more expression of pigment on the body, has brown "highlights" on the nose, flank, etc and black points and is called "brown". A horse with E?aa is black all over with no restriction from the Agouti gene.

So now we have what E/e and A/At/a are and what they mean to horse colors, you can take all those and apply the modifiers like the white-spotting patterns (Tobiano, Sabino, Frame), Roan, Dun, etc and add in that Champagne has those weird names and so does Cream(CcrC) (Chestnut + Cream = Palomino, Bay + Cream = Buckskin, Brown + Cream = Brown Buckskin, Black + Cream = Smoky Black) and Double Cream(CcrCcr) (Chestnut = Cremello, Bay/Brown = Perlino, Black = Smoky Cream).

Most of the genes here are dominantly-expressed (the capital letter means the horse has that trait), but Pearl is recessive (a horse must have prlprl to be Pearl) and Agouti has 3 alleles, where A overrides the other two, At only overrides a and aa means "non-Agouti).

Hope that helps some people who are still a bit confused. Variable color names don't help. It's like the gene that's called merle in every other dog breed is called dapple in dachshunds. You just have to learn the color names and roll with it.


Thank you!

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