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MakeEm Fancy
08:39:11 Ally 💜
Thank you! We are hoping once she has this surgery she will thrive even more :)
Hummingbird Meadows
08:39:06 Bird
@lynx, was she pregnant when you got her?
Lynx Glory
08:38:12 ⛈ whisper/lynx
ally
good luck with her <3
Lynx Glory
08:37:54 ⛈ whisper/lynx
bird
yes it is lol. she seems very indecisive on where to keep her kittens, too. keeps moving them here and there. if she just chose the shelter we made that served as a home to cinnamon's kittens, she would be at peace xD
MakeEm Fancy
08:35:58 Ally 💜
Sparta is the same
MakeEm Fancy
08:35:30 Ally 💜
We think she needs eyelid surgery but the vet wants to take a closer look. She was biting them when we went in last time 🫣 Naught kitten she is
Hummingbird Meadows
08:35:08 Bird
@Lynx, aww that's young to be a mama!
Glacier Bay Cove
08:34:08 Arctic Katz
Sometimes yes, she definitely has a mind of her own and she lets us know what she likes and doesn't like
Lynx Glory
08:34:03 ⛈ whisper/lynx
bird
bubbles and pebbles are 41 days old :) mom seems to be around 10 months old
Lynx Glory
08:33:23 ⛈ whisper/lynx
i'm just getting excited because pinecone and his siblings were about a month older when we met them. these guys are tiny wobbling kitties <3
Hummingbird Meadows
08:33:12 Bird
@Lynx, how old are they?
Lynx Glory
08:32:44 ⛈ whisper/lynx
i went outside just now, pet mink's kitten bubbles *properly* for the first time :0 gosh they're so soft (it's sibling pebbles is still shy so stayed away)
Lynx Glory
08:31:46 ⛈ whisper/lynx
Ally
:0 i think her eye is one of the things that make her cute, she looks like she's winking <3 i hope everything goes well, if she needs surgery
MakeEm Fancy
08:30:57 Ally 💜
Thank you! The vet she goes to is amazed how good she looks and is doing! Besides her eye she is super healthy @Lynx
Lynx Glory
08:29:50 ⛈ whisper/lynx
ally
aww cuties! peaches is adorable <33
MakeEm Fancy
08:27:58 Ally 💜
Is yours grumpy? @Arctic
Glacier Bay Cove
08:27:15 Arctic Katz
Sparta kinda looks like my girl, Flora
MakeEm Fancy
08:26:00 Ally 💜
She is thriving promise. We have an appointment with the vet to discuss if she needs surgery
Peachy
08:25:01 peach | abbi
oh i love that bay dun, angel!
Angels angels
08:24:55 [1k+ brindles] Angel
Poor baby eye ;-;

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MakeEm Fancy
08:39:11 Ally 💜
Thank you! We are hoping once she has this surgery she will thrive even more :)
Hummingbird Meadows
08:39:06 Bird
@lynx, was she pregnant when you got her?
Lynx Glory
08:38:12 ⛈ whisper/lynx
ally
good luck with her <3
Lynx Glory
08:37:54 ⛈ whisper/lynx
bird
yes it is lol. she seems very indecisive on where to keep her kittens, too. keeps moving them here and there. if she just chose the shelter we made that served as a home to cinnamon's kittens, she would be at peace xD
MakeEm Fancy
08:35:58 Ally 💜
Sparta is the same
MakeEm Fancy
08:35:30 Ally 💜
We think she needs eyelid surgery but the vet wants to take a closer look. She was biting them when we went in last time 🫣 Naught kitten she is
Hummingbird Meadows
08:35:08 Bird
@Lynx, aww that's young to be a mama!
Glacier Bay Cove
08:34:08 Arctic Katz
Sometimes yes, she definitely has a mind of her own and she lets us know what she likes and doesn't like
Lynx Glory
08:34:03 ⛈ whisper/lynx
bird
bubbles and pebbles are 41 days old :) mom seems to be around 10 months old
Lynx Glory
08:33:23 ⛈ whisper/lynx
i'm just getting excited because pinecone and his siblings were about a month older when we met them. these guys are tiny wobbling kitties <3
Hummingbird Meadows
08:33:12 Bird
@Lynx, how old are they?
Lynx Glory
08:32:44 ⛈ whisper/lynx
i went outside just now, pet mink's kitten bubbles *properly* for the first time :0 gosh they're so soft (it's sibling pebbles is still shy so stayed away)
Lynx Glory
08:31:46 ⛈ whisper/lynx
Ally
:0 i think her eye is one of the things that make her cute, she looks like she's winking <3 i hope everything goes well, if she needs surgery
MakeEm Fancy
08:30:57 Ally 💜
Thank you! The vet she goes to is amazed how good she looks and is doing! Besides her eye she is super healthy @Lynx
Lynx Glory
08:29:50 ⛈ whisper/lynx
ally
aww cuties! peaches is adorable <33
MakeEm Fancy
08:27:58 Ally 💜
Is yours grumpy? @Arctic
Glacier Bay Cove
08:27:15 Arctic Katz
Sparta kinda looks like my girl, Flora
MakeEm Fancy
08:26:00 Ally 💜
She is thriving promise. We have an appointment with the vet to discuss if she needs surgery
Peachy
08:25:01 peach | abbi
oh i love that bay dun, angel!
Angels angels
08:24:55 [1k+ brindles] Angel
Poor baby eye ;-;

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Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:21 PM


Eastwood Acres
 
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I'm not to good with genetics and just tested her. If someone can help I'd like to know if there's anything special or noteworthy about her genetics :) Thank you in advance!

Edited at February 25, 2024 04:21 PM by Eastwood Acres
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:27 PM


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Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:39 PM


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The Joker said:
Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!


Thank you so much! I appreciate it a lot :)
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 05:01 PM


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Eastwood Acres said:

The Joker said:
Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!


Thank you so much! I appreciate it a lot :)


Of course! Happy to help :) I believe the amber part of her colour is caused by her base colour of Ee which would usually be bay/brown, I may be incorrect though and it may be linked to the agouti gene instead
Genetic Help February 26, 2024 01:28 PM


Clear Springs
 
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Champagnes have weird color names.
Gold Champagne = Chestnut (ee ??) + Champagne gene
Amber Champagne = Bay (E?A?) + Champagne gene
Sable Champagne = Brown (E?At?) + Champagne gene
Classic Champagne = Black (E?aa)+ Champagne gene

So the "Amber" part of her color just means she would be a plain bay horse without the Champagne gene. She's E(black-based) A(agouti) plus Ch(Champagne). She also has that At gene in there which doesn't show on her, but means she could have a brown foal.

The Extension (E/e) gene just determines if a horse is black-based or red-based. If the horse has at least one E gene it's black-based, if ee it's red-based. All horse colors are one or the other with modifiers added for colors besides Black and Chestnut.

The Agouti (A/At/a) gene here is considered only active in black-based horses, so a horse that is red-based (ee) won't express it no matter what alleles are present. What it does is restrict where on the horse black pigment is fully expressed. It limits actual black to the "points" of the horse and leaves the body lacking enough pigment to be truly black, so it's just sort of a faded black color (which appears red, but isn't). So a horse with E?A? is the full-on Agouti color we call "bay" with black points and reddish body. A horse with E?At? has more expression of pigment on the body, has brown "highlights" on the nose, flank, etc and black points and is called "brown". A horse with E?aa is black all over with no restriction from the Agouti gene.

So now we have what E/e and A/At/a are and what they mean to horse colors, you can take all those and apply the modifiers like the white-spotting patterns (Tobiano, Sabino, Frame), Roan, Dun, etc and add in that Champagne has those weird names and so does Cream(CcrC) (Chestnut + Cream = Palomino, Bay + Cream = Buckskin, Brown + Cream = Brown Buckskin, Black + Cream = Smoky Black) and Double Cream(CcrCcr) (Chestnut = Cremello, Bay/Brown = Perlino, Black = Smoky Cream).

Most of the genes here are dominantly-expressed (the capital letter means the horse has that trait), but Pearl is recessive (a horse must have prlprl to be Pearl) and Agouti has 3 alleles, where A overrides the other two, At only overrides a and aa means "non-Agouti).

Hope that helps some people who are still a bit confused. Variable color names don't help. It's like the gene that's called merle in every other dog breed is called dapple in dachshunds. You just have to learn the color names and roll with it.

Edited at February 26, 2024 02:06 PM by Clear Springs
Genetic Help February 26, 2024 10:38 PM


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Clear Springs said:
Champagnes have weird color names.
Gold Champagne = Chestnut (ee ??) + Champagne gene
Amber Champagne = Bay (E?A?) + Champagne gene
Sable Champagne = Brown (E?At?) + Champagne gene
Classic Champagne = Black (E?aa)+ Champagne gene

So the "Amber" part of her color just means she would be a plain bay horse without the Champagne gene. She's E(black-based) A(agouti) plus Ch(Champagne). She also has that At gene in there which doesn't show on her, but means she could have a brown foal.

The Extension (E/e) gene just determines if a horse is black-based or red-based. If the horse has at least one E gene it's black-based, if ee it's red-based. All horse colors are one or the other with modifiers added for colors besides Black and Chestnut.

The Agouti (A/At/a) gene here is considered only active in black-based horses, so a horse that is red-based (ee) won't express it no matter what alleles are present. What it does is restrict where on the horse black pigment is fully expressed. It limits actual black to the "points" of the horse and leaves the body lacking enough pigment to be truly black, so it's just sort of a faded black color (which appears red, but isn't). So a horse with E?A? is the full-on Agouti color we call "bay" with black points and reddish body. A horse with E?At? has more expression of pigment on the body, has brown "highlights" on the nose, flank, etc and black points and is called "brown". A horse with E?aa is black all over with no restriction from the Agouti gene.

So now we have what E/e and A/At/a are and what they mean to horse colors, you can take all those and apply the modifiers like the white-spotting patterns (Tobiano, Sabino, Frame), Roan, Dun, etc and add in that Champagne has those weird names and so does Cream(CcrC) (Chestnut + Cream = Palomino, Bay + Cream = Buckskin, Brown + Cream = Brown Buckskin, Black + Cream = Smoky Black) and Double Cream(CcrCcr) (Chestnut = Cremello, Bay/Brown = Perlino, Black = Smoky Cream).

Most of the genes here are dominantly-expressed (the capital letter means the horse has that trait), but Pearl is recessive (a horse must have prlprl to be Pearl) and Agouti has 3 alleles, where A overrides the other two, At only overrides a and aa means "non-Agouti).

Hope that helps some people who are still a bit confused. Variable color names don't help. It's like the gene that's called merle in every other dog breed is called dapple in dachshunds. You just have to learn the color names and roll with it.


Thank you!

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