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Glacier Bay Cove
01:44:41 Arctic Katz
I name you the chimera queen, Angels, lol
Fantasy Horses
01:44:34 Fantasy | Fanta
Sunni
I prefer to plan more than that, but if I'm in a rush I will do that lol.
Sunni
01:44:24 Sunni bunny
Cove I am slowly making progress, but I gotta get some more barns.
Angels angels
01:44:09 [1k+ brindles] Angel
I have a lot of matches and I am so dang excited for them
Angels angels
01:43:47 [1k+ brindles] Angel
Glacier
I already collect them lol

Sunni
If you need any help deciding the fate of horses just shoot me a pm lol and I am happy to help match
Sunni
01:43:42 Sunni bunny
Fantasy I'll be honest sometimes I just take a random chance.
Glacier Bay Cove
01:42:58 Arctic Katz
In the same boat, none of my barns are organized either, Sunni
Four Peaks Ranch
01:42:55 Four
I am so mad I missed capture day ugh
Fantasy Horses
01:42:21 Fantasy | Fanta
I don't even have that many matches planned for RO. I have so many capture day horses that need training that I'm going to wait a week or so before I breed them. So I'm not that worried. Yet.
Sunni
01:39:34 Sunni bunny
I was hoping to be more ready for RO.
I all ways just match the day of RO.
but my barn is not organized and I gotta go through and decide to geld or show mercy to some of my stallions.
Four Peaks Ranch
01:39:09 Four
I feel like I am finally starting to understand training and being able to tell when a horse is just not going to do well no matter how hard I try.
Glacier Bay Cove
01:38:30 Arctic Katz
Maybe HEE wants you to start working with chimera horses, Angels
Fantasy Horses
01:36:33 Fantasy | Fanta
Mostly I'm excited to test my freshie boy
Sunni
01:34:14 Sunni bunny
I never track train, I have to many horses for all that and not enough patience XD.
Angels angels
01:33:58 [1k+ brindles] Angel
-HEE Click-
I keep getting these and no brindles .-.
Fantasy Horses
01:33:22 Fantasy | Fanta
Four
I'd say around week 16 is good
Angels angels
01:33:14 [1k+ brindles] Angel
Four
Most people do week 12-15
Four Peaks Ranch
01:32:12 Four
Up to what week should I be tracking my horses trainings? I have a massive excel sheet that I want to transfer into the remarks of each horse and I don't want to spend time transferring useless info
Glacier Bay Cove
01:31:48 Arctic Katz
I will try to be there
Sunni
01:31:22 Sunni bunny
I plan to join trivia hopefully.

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Glacier Bay Cove
01:44:41 Arctic Katz
I name you the chimera queen, Angels, lol
Fantasy Horses
01:44:34 Fantasy | Fanta
Sunni
I prefer to plan more than that, but if I'm in a rush I will do that lol.
Sunni
01:44:24 Sunni bunny
Cove I am slowly making progress, but I gotta get some more barns.
Angels angels
01:44:09 [1k+ brindles] Angel
I have a lot of matches and I am so dang excited for them
Angels angels
01:43:47 [1k+ brindles] Angel
Glacier
I already collect them lol

Sunni
If you need any help deciding the fate of horses just shoot me a pm lol and I am happy to help match
Sunni
01:43:42 Sunni bunny
Fantasy I'll be honest sometimes I just take a random chance.
Glacier Bay Cove
01:42:58 Arctic Katz
In the same boat, none of my barns are organized either, Sunni
Four Peaks Ranch
01:42:55 Four
I am so mad I missed capture day ugh
Fantasy Horses
01:42:21 Fantasy | Fanta
I don't even have that many matches planned for RO. I have so many capture day horses that need training that I'm going to wait a week or so before I breed them. So I'm not that worried. Yet.
Sunni
01:39:34 Sunni bunny
I was hoping to be more ready for RO.
I all ways just match the day of RO.
but my barn is not organized and I gotta go through and decide to geld or show mercy to some of my stallions.
Four Peaks Ranch
01:39:09 Four
I feel like I am finally starting to understand training and being able to tell when a horse is just not going to do well no matter how hard I try.
Glacier Bay Cove
01:38:30 Arctic Katz
Maybe HEE wants you to start working with chimera horses, Angels
Fantasy Horses
01:36:33 Fantasy | Fanta
Mostly I'm excited to test my freshie boy
Sunni
01:34:14 Sunni bunny
I never track train, I have to many horses for all that and not enough patience XD.
Angels angels
01:33:58 [1k+ brindles] Angel
-HEE Click-
I keep getting these and no brindles .-.
Fantasy Horses
01:33:22 Fantasy | Fanta
Four
I'd say around week 16 is good
Angels angels
01:33:14 [1k+ brindles] Angel
Four
Most people do week 12-15
Four Peaks Ranch
01:32:12 Four
Up to what week should I be tracking my horses trainings? I have a massive excel sheet that I want to transfer into the remarks of each horse and I don't want to spend time transferring useless info
Glacier Bay Cove
01:31:48 Arctic Katz
I will try to be there
Sunni
01:31:22 Sunni bunny
I plan to join trivia hopefully.

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Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:21 PM


Eastwood Acres
 
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I'm not to good with genetics and just tested her. If someone can help I'd like to know if there's anything special or noteworthy about her genetics :) Thank you in advance!

Edited at February 25, 2024 04:21 PM by Eastwood Acres
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:27 PM


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Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:39 PM


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The Joker said:
Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!


Thank you so much! I appreciate it a lot :)
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 05:01 PM


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Eastwood Acres said:

The Joker said:
Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!


Thank you so much! I appreciate it a lot :)


Of course! Happy to help :) I believe the amber part of her colour is caused by her base colour of Ee which would usually be bay/brown, I may be incorrect though and it may be linked to the agouti gene instead
Genetic Help February 26, 2024 01:28 PM


Clear Springs
 
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Champagnes have weird color names.
Gold Champagne = Chestnut (ee ??) + Champagne gene
Amber Champagne = Bay (E?A?) + Champagne gene
Sable Champagne = Brown (E?At?) + Champagne gene
Classic Champagne = Black (E?aa)+ Champagne gene

So the "Amber" part of her color just means she would be a plain bay horse without the Champagne gene. She's E(black-based) A(agouti) plus Ch(Champagne). She also has that At gene in there which doesn't show on her, but means she could have a brown foal.

The Extension (E/e) gene just determines if a horse is black-based or red-based. If the horse has at least one E gene it's black-based, if ee it's red-based. All horse colors are one or the other with modifiers added for colors besides Black and Chestnut.

The Agouti (A/At/a) gene here is considered only active in black-based horses, so a horse that is red-based (ee) won't express it no matter what alleles are present. What it does is restrict where on the horse black pigment is fully expressed. It limits actual black to the "points" of the horse and leaves the body lacking enough pigment to be truly black, so it's just sort of a faded black color (which appears red, but isn't). So a horse with E?A? is the full-on Agouti color we call "bay" with black points and reddish body. A horse with E?At? has more expression of pigment on the body, has brown "highlights" on the nose, flank, etc and black points and is called "brown". A horse with E?aa is black all over with no restriction from the Agouti gene.

So now we have what E/e and A/At/a are and what they mean to horse colors, you can take all those and apply the modifiers like the white-spotting patterns (Tobiano, Sabino, Frame), Roan, Dun, etc and add in that Champagne has those weird names and so does Cream(CcrC) (Chestnut + Cream = Palomino, Bay + Cream = Buckskin, Brown + Cream = Brown Buckskin, Black + Cream = Smoky Black) and Double Cream(CcrCcr) (Chestnut = Cremello, Bay/Brown = Perlino, Black = Smoky Cream).

Most of the genes here are dominantly-expressed (the capital letter means the horse has that trait), but Pearl is recessive (a horse must have prlprl to be Pearl) and Agouti has 3 alleles, where A overrides the other two, At only overrides a and aa means "non-Agouti).

Hope that helps some people who are still a bit confused. Variable color names don't help. It's like the gene that's called merle in every other dog breed is called dapple in dachshunds. You just have to learn the color names and roll with it.

Edited at February 26, 2024 02:06 PM by Clear Springs
Genetic Help February 26, 2024 10:38 PM


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Clear Springs said:
Champagnes have weird color names.
Gold Champagne = Chestnut (ee ??) + Champagne gene
Amber Champagne = Bay (E?A?) + Champagne gene
Sable Champagne = Brown (E?At?) + Champagne gene
Classic Champagne = Black (E?aa)+ Champagne gene

So the "Amber" part of her color just means she would be a plain bay horse without the Champagne gene. She's E(black-based) A(agouti) plus Ch(Champagne). She also has that At gene in there which doesn't show on her, but means she could have a brown foal.

The Extension (E/e) gene just determines if a horse is black-based or red-based. If the horse has at least one E gene it's black-based, if ee it's red-based. All horse colors are one or the other with modifiers added for colors besides Black and Chestnut.

The Agouti (A/At/a) gene here is considered only active in black-based horses, so a horse that is red-based (ee) won't express it no matter what alleles are present. What it does is restrict where on the horse black pigment is fully expressed. It limits actual black to the "points" of the horse and leaves the body lacking enough pigment to be truly black, so it's just sort of a faded black color (which appears red, but isn't). So a horse with E?A? is the full-on Agouti color we call "bay" with black points and reddish body. A horse with E?At? has more expression of pigment on the body, has brown "highlights" on the nose, flank, etc and black points and is called "brown". A horse with E?aa is black all over with no restriction from the Agouti gene.

So now we have what E/e and A/At/a are and what they mean to horse colors, you can take all those and apply the modifiers like the white-spotting patterns (Tobiano, Sabino, Frame), Roan, Dun, etc and add in that Champagne has those weird names and so does Cream(CcrC) (Chestnut + Cream = Palomino, Bay + Cream = Buckskin, Brown + Cream = Brown Buckskin, Black + Cream = Smoky Black) and Double Cream(CcrCcr) (Chestnut = Cremello, Bay/Brown = Perlino, Black = Smoky Cream).

Most of the genes here are dominantly-expressed (the capital letter means the horse has that trait), but Pearl is recessive (a horse must have prlprl to be Pearl) and Agouti has 3 alleles, where A overrides the other two, At only overrides a and aa means "non-Agouti).

Hope that helps some people who are still a bit confused. Variable color names don't help. It's like the gene that's called merle in every other dog breed is called dapple in dachshunds. You just have to learn the color names and roll with it.


Thank you!

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