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Motonemi
08:46:00 AL, mum to Nemi
Not to mention for some horses the freshie month is the worst one
The Old Gods
08:45:16 Void Malign
Yeah, that doesn't help much since some of my midtier will end up with 8/10 Ws lmfao
Minerva
08:44:35 Min
This is why I don't look at SDLBs- too much brain power required 🤣 I just count their freshie production and cull or keep based on that
Motonemi
08:44:06 AL, mum to Nemi
Huh, I dont know then
Gem Queens Estate
08:43:58 Snow❆Gem
Congratulations! You have been a member of HEE for five real life years!

XD
The Old Gods
08:43:13 Void Malign
My 3 ups on 3/6/9 that land mid tier or lower on LBs say otherwise lol
Minerva
08:42:50 Min
Aww fucking hell- same now! I can barely be arsed to test the ones that make it through the culls though, Im not adding more
Motonemi
08:42:41 AL, mum to Nemi
The training does improve from w3 to 6. Maybe training improvement counts as well in LB placing?
All Breeds
08:42:22 Fawn
That's my reaction as well Eury xD
The Old Gods
08:41:29 Void Malign
'cause he was only up 1 on his w3. So, everyone's doing that hands on hips meme at their stock
The Old Gods
08:40:35 Void Malign
yeah and everyone's puzzled because of the training
Minerva
08:40:18 Min
Blimey thats impressive!!!
Lambda Estates
08:39:08 Eps RID
Oh shit Gem’s boy that dethroned Asmo is #1 DABLB
Gaelic Gladiacres
08:36:24 Gladius
Yeah, I kinda wish if you bred enough generations of ISH to RID the genetic percentage swaps to RID and vice versa not gonna lie 🤣 I can't import scope to cover my RIDs' weaknesses from say ISH as easily as from within the herd although at least new genes from wilds are handy
Lambda Estates
08:32:53 Eps RID
That and with Asmo being so high and having splash, the ISH SD breeders used him a lot too that confused me at first.
The Old Gods
08:32:44 Void Malign
my side that does rid is doing nicely. I have some credits stashed up over there and might spring for a sven or two for next month
Lambda Estates
08:32:14 Eps RID
So true Gladius lol. I get jumpscared when ABLB for SD shows up 😂
Arctic Dusk
08:30:33 AL - RIDs *sigh*
Its what happens if you do a breed that cant crossbreed I think. You get stuck in your own bubble (with others that do the same breed) so to speak
Gaelic Gladiacres
08:29:09 Gladius
Eps - it's funny to me how RID is kind of a black hole. There are a couple of us in the trenches and we have no idea what everyone else is up to or even if there's a world outside 🤣🤣
The Old Gods
08:28:39 Void Malign
...Also that I don't get the benadryl hangover that some people get lmao

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Motonemi
08:46:00 AL, mum to Nemi
Not to mention for some horses the freshie month is the worst one
The Old Gods
08:45:16 Void Malign
Yeah, that doesn't help much since some of my midtier will end up with 8/10 Ws lmfao
Minerva
08:44:35 Min
This is why I don't look at SDLBs- too much brain power required 🤣 I just count their freshie production and cull or keep based on that
Motonemi
08:44:06 AL, mum to Nemi
Huh, I dont know then
Gem Queens Estate
08:43:58 Snow❆Gem
Congratulations! You have been a member of HEE for five real life years!

XD
The Old Gods
08:43:13 Void Malign
My 3 ups on 3/6/9 that land mid tier or lower on LBs say otherwise lol
Minerva
08:42:50 Min
Aww fucking hell- same now! I can barely be arsed to test the ones that make it through the culls though, Im not adding more
Motonemi
08:42:41 AL, mum to Nemi
The training does improve from w3 to 6. Maybe training improvement counts as well in LB placing?
All Breeds
08:42:22 Fawn
That's my reaction as well Eury xD
The Old Gods
08:41:29 Void Malign
'cause he was only up 1 on his w3. So, everyone's doing that hands on hips meme at their stock
The Old Gods
08:40:35 Void Malign
yeah and everyone's puzzled because of the training
Minerva
08:40:18 Min
Blimey thats impressive!!!
Lambda Estates
08:39:08 Eps RID
Oh shit Gem’s boy that dethroned Asmo is #1 DABLB
Gaelic Gladiacres
08:36:24 Gladius
Yeah, I kinda wish if you bred enough generations of ISH to RID the genetic percentage swaps to RID and vice versa not gonna lie 🤣 I can't import scope to cover my RIDs' weaknesses from say ISH as easily as from within the herd although at least new genes from wilds are handy
Lambda Estates
08:32:53 Eps RID
That and with Asmo being so high and having splash, the ISH SD breeders used him a lot too that confused me at first.
The Old Gods
08:32:44 Void Malign
my side that does rid is doing nicely. I have some credits stashed up over there and might spring for a sven or two for next month
Lambda Estates
08:32:14 Eps RID
So true Gladius lol. I get jumpscared when ABLB for SD shows up 😂
Arctic Dusk
08:30:33 AL - RIDs *sigh*
Its what happens if you do a breed that cant crossbreed I think. You get stuck in your own bubble (with others that do the same breed) so to speak
Gaelic Gladiacres
08:29:09 Gladius
Eps - it's funny to me how RID is kind of a black hole. There are a couple of us in the trenches and we have no idea what everyone else is up to or even if there's a world outside 🤣🤣
The Old Gods
08:28:39 Void Malign
...Also that I don't get the benadryl hangover that some people get lmao

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Frame Overo genetics November 24, 2020 11:08 AM

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Can someone explain the genetics of Frame Overo to me? I thought I understood it, but I've found horses that have frame patterning with oo and Oo genes. I thought it was a recessive gene, and then I thought it was a dominant gene, and now I don't know what to think. I've looked, but I can't find anything that answers my question. Anyone have an explanation?
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Frame Overo genetics November 24, 2020 11:47 AM


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Frame Overo is a dominant gene. If they have it, they will express it. What you're running into, and why you cannot find any homozygous (OO) horses, is Frame Overo is lethal in it's homozygous form. The foals will die shortly after birth. On HEE, that simply translates to a message that 'the foal was lethal white and perished', meaning you don't get the baby out of the match.
The same thing is true for White (W). You're not going to find any homozygous White horses because WW foals also die at birth.

Edited at November 24, 2020 02:46 PM by Silent Grove
Frame Overo genetics November 24, 2020 07:00 PM

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I understand that part. I was just confused because I found what appear to be frame horses that have an oo genotype. Are those horses not really frames and are instead some form of sabino or something?
Frame Overo genetics November 24, 2020 07:22 PM


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Yes, I'd say you're seeing a Sb or another marking! Spl could be what you're seeing as well. There's also different markings for homo/hetero patterns where some homo genes make patterns very large.
Frame Overo genetics November 24, 2020 09:19 PM

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Great, thanks for the help!!!
Frame Overo genetics December 2, 2020 09:19 PM

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Wait, if you breed an oo with an Oo, will you get an Oo or an oo?
Frame Overo genetics December 2, 2020 09:35 PM


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SweetFire Fields said:
Wait, if you breed an oo with an Oo, will you get an Oo or an oo?


You can get either. From an Oo and an oo, there are four possible outcomes- two are Oo, and two are oo. From an Oo and an Oo, you can get an OO (lethal white), 2/4 chance of Oo, and oo.

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