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Morning Glory Farms
12:58:49 Terici/Dino/Trish
yes double cream will hide silver
Frog Judgment Acers
12:35:47 Dulcie/Crazy
Thanks raven
MC Ace
12:27:41 McFossil
mmmm just because I can pull 10 embryos doesn't mean I should. ugh
Ravenwood Farm
12:26:56 
I checked now and it seems like it, searching for silver perlino and silver smokey creme horses in game yields no results
Frog Judgment Acers
12:26:33 Dulcie/Crazy
I might do that in a few minutes but I'm going to run off & save my duolingo streak
Frog Judgment Acers
12:25:58 Dulcie/Crazy
Need to find a PrlPrl Zz/Zz & looky
Ravenwood Farm
12:23:35 
I'm not sure if it's right or not though
Frog Judgment Acers
12:22:36 Dulcie/Crazy
Double cream? I wasn't aware of that one
CWY country
12:21:07 C
Dulcie, I do believe silver only affects the color for black based coats, but I could be wrong.
Ravenwood Farm
12:20:23 
Dulcie, yes you are right chestnut bases hide silver. I think I recall something about double creme hiding it as well, but I'm very unsure if that's right or not
Frog Judgment Acers
12:19:30 Dulcie/Crazy
Don't mind my long drawn out explanation then
Frog Judgment Acers
12:17:41 Dulcie/Crazy
Capital letters mean the gene is present
There are 2 colors that need an absence of the gene
Red (ee) means no black is present
Pearl (pp) think of pearl as toner
Pegasus Lane
12:14:58 Peggy (or) Peg
Nope, had it mixed up with prl 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ Time for bed I guess
Pegasus Lane
12:14:01 Peggy (or) Peg
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure ZZ is no silver and zz is homo silver.
My memory is iffy though so don't quote me haha
Frog Judgment Acers
12:11:16 Dulcie/Crazy
Silver (Zz/ZZ) only shows on black base coats (Ee/EE) correct?
CWY country
11:48:10 C
Zz or ZZ means the horse has silver. zz means the horse doesn't have silver. Hope that makes a little more sense.
Golden Rose
11:48:02 Rose
Zz means the horse is carrying one copy of silver. One copy means the horse has a chance of passing silver onto their offspring. If the horse is ZZ, then it carries two copies and every foal they throw is guaranteed to be silver
CWY country
11:39:51 C
Fanta, it means that the horse is silver or if it isn't showing, its hiding silver.
Fantasy Horses
11:39:10 Fantasy | Fanta
In a genetic test, what does Zz for silver mean?
Blue Sky Equestrian
11:32:49 
take that nigel :p

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Morning Glory Farms
12:58:49 Terici/Dino/Trish
yes double cream will hide silver
Frog Judgment Acers
12:35:47 Dulcie/Crazy
Thanks raven
MC Ace
12:27:41 McFossil
mmmm just because I can pull 10 embryos doesn't mean I should. ugh
Ravenwood Farm
12:26:56 
I checked now and it seems like it, searching for silver perlino and silver smokey creme horses in game yields no results
Frog Judgment Acers
12:26:33 Dulcie/Crazy
I might do that in a few minutes but I'm going to run off & save my duolingo streak
Frog Judgment Acers
12:25:58 Dulcie/Crazy
Need to find a PrlPrl Zz/Zz & looky
Ravenwood Farm
12:23:35 
I'm not sure if it's right or not though
Frog Judgment Acers
12:22:36 Dulcie/Crazy
Double cream? I wasn't aware of that one
CWY country
12:21:07 C
Dulcie, I do believe silver only affects the color for black based coats, but I could be wrong.
Ravenwood Farm
12:20:23 
Dulcie, yes you are right chestnut bases hide silver. I think I recall something about double creme hiding it as well, but I'm very unsure if that's right or not
Frog Judgment Acers
12:19:30 Dulcie/Crazy
Don't mind my long drawn out explanation then
Frog Judgment Acers
12:17:41 Dulcie/Crazy
Capital letters mean the gene is present
There are 2 colors that need an absence of the gene
Red (ee) means no black is present
Pearl (pp) think of pearl as toner
Pegasus Lane
12:14:58 Peggy (or) Peg
Nope, had it mixed up with prl 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ Time for bed I guess
Pegasus Lane
12:14:01 Peggy (or) Peg
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure ZZ is no silver and zz is homo silver.
My memory is iffy though so don't quote me haha
Frog Judgment Acers
12:11:16 Dulcie/Crazy
Silver (Zz/ZZ) only shows on black base coats (Ee/EE) correct?
CWY country
11:48:10 C
Zz or ZZ means the horse has silver. zz means the horse doesn't have silver. Hope that makes a little more sense.
Golden Rose
11:48:02 Rose
Zz means the horse is carrying one copy of silver. One copy means the horse has a chance of passing silver onto their offspring. If the horse is ZZ, then it carries two copies and every foal they throw is guaranteed to be silver
CWY country
11:39:51 C
Fanta, it means that the horse is silver or if it isn't showing, its hiding silver.
Fantasy Horses
11:39:10 Fantasy | Fanta
In a genetic test, what does Zz for silver mean?
Blue Sky Equestrian
11:32:49 
take that nigel :p

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Upset with my Vet January 30, 2025 07:05 PM


Hummingbird Meadows
 
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At the end of December, my cat Oliver became sick and was diagnosed with a gallstone that was partially obstructing his bile duct. After this diagnosis, he was put on a medication to dissolve the stone and antibiotics.

It has been 1 month since this issue first started and Oliver has been off the antibiotics for 2 weeks, but he is still doing great. Yesterday, we had a follow-up ultrasound and the vet who performed the ultrasound said the stone has shrunk greatly which is a good sign. She said she would pass this information and a full report to my primary vet.

I was suprised to recieve a phone call from my primary vet today saying that despite the improvements they want to put him back on antibiotics and have him go on perscription diet. I was confused about their reasoning for this so I asked for a copy of the ultrasound report. Based on the findings in the report, I don't see the need for antibiotics or a perscription diet. The vet who performed the ultrasound even said it is unclear whether or not these things would help.

I have asked multiple times if food caused his gallstones the answer has always been no so why should I start using an expensive perscription diet? Additionally, why should he go back on antibiotics when he is doing ok without them?

Of course, if Oliver worsened I would happily put him on antibiotics and try a perscription diet, but I have already spent close to $2,500 and given how well he is doing I don't want to spend hundreds of dollars on something that may or may not help. I feel like my vet was trying to up-charge me and perscribe things that aren't necessary or even beneficial. I am planning on continuing the medication we were pescribed that breaks up the stone, but this experience has left a sour taste in my mouth.

Am I rational in my thinking he doesn't need antibioitics or a perscription diet? Is it a valid reason to switch vets?

Edited at January 30, 2025 07:24 PM by Revel Ranch
Upset with my Vet January 30, 2025 07:27 PM


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So if it were me in your situation, what I would do is do your own research. Find out what causes the galstones, which I believe it can be caused by food because of mineral build up. I have a cat that is very prone to UTIs so instead of getting an expensive perscription diet, I did research and found that magnesium is one thing that can cause them. So I kept with the same brand food, but I found one that was a different flavor which had little to no magnesium. He has been fine every since. Long story short, if you find there is an ingredient that can increase the chances of getting them, maybe try to find a food without that in it.
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As for the antibiotics, if he doesn't need them then I wouldn't put him on them. Everyone knows how bad it is to overuse antibiotics when not needed. It could end up causing stomach issues or other things due to killing the good bacteria also. So I would keep him off of them and if he ends up needing them again because the galstones come back, then I would use them again and keep him on them for preventative.
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Sorry for the long reply but I hope this helps! If you need any help with any research on these things pm me and I will be happy to help. I love researching stuff like this! <3
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Edit:
You can always go to another vet for a second opinion also. It never hurts!

Edited at January 30, 2025 07:27 PM by Angels angels
Upset with my Vet January 30, 2025 08:02 PM


Kiwi Mountains
 
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I second getting another opinion from another vet if you can.
It wouldn't hurt and in the long run cost you less than his life/health, or spending an unnecessary extra hundreds of dollars.
Upset with my Vet January 30, 2025 09:54 PM

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I would definitely take him for a second opinion. I had a dog, we spent $800+ on to remove her spleen because it had ruptured. 3 months later I had her euthanized for lung cancer. That vet should have never operated on her :(
That being said, the only reason I can see the vet wanting to continue antibiotics is because there is a gallbladder infection or bile duct infection.
Trust your instincts, all the best my friend ♡
Upset with my Vet February 3, 2025 08:21 PM


Hummingbird Meadows
 
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I was finally able to have a conversation with my vet about the ultrasound findings and she was able to explain why they want Oliver on a prescription diet and antibiotics. I am switching him over to a hydrolyzed diet and he is also getting the injectable version of the antibiotics because he hates the oral ones and will drool them out.

I also scheduled another ultrasound at the beginning of March so fingers crossed he is completely recovered by then.

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