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I'm trying again....I don't think a hardship registration is what I need and/or want. Basically, I've reached out to two of my Arab's previous owners inquiring about registration. His original breeder doesn't have them, and neither does the owner I got him from. I'd imagaine I could find them somewhere in between, but his previous owner (who I am friends with) cannot get a hold of who she got him from and I wasn't able to get a name from her (reasonable, as is his breeder not giving me info on who she sold him too as well). I'm wondering if I'm just going to be without his registration, or if I could call up the AHA and see if I could get a copy. But, if so, would that mean he would be under my name? Would I need to show a Bill of Sale? How would that work? |
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a bill of sale would probably be needed, considering they wouldn't wanna hand out registry papers to just anyone. you may also need coggins |
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I would call up/email the registry and just see what they say, I have a similar situation. I have my geldings papers, but he has been through 4+ owners and I need a signature from at least his previous owner, and it's near impossible for that, so I need to call the registry as well. |
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I would talk to the registry. I had an odd experience with some QH papers a year or 2 ago. We had bought a bucksin filly from her breeder when she was a yearling and we got her papers. Shen she was 2, we sold her to someone across the country and a friend of his hauled her to him. The mare would be about to be 7 now. She was was (I think) 5, a person contacted us about getting a transfer for her papers. The guy we sold her to had apparently never transferred her papers and they were still in our name. He had sold her in a roping horse sale with her papers and no transfer, and the new owners had called AQHA to get our email to ask if we would be willing to sign a transfer. Of course, we helped with the paperwork because we wanted that horse to have the best chance possible, but I was not expecting to fill out a new transfer for a horse I had sold 3 or 4 years before. I've never had an arabian, so I don't know how helpful their association can be, but it never hurts to ask. |
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Shingashina said:
I would talk to the registry. I had an odd experience with some QH papers a year or 2 ago. We had bought a bucksin filly from her breeder when she was a yearling and we got her papers. Shen she was 2, we sold her to someone across the country and a friend of his hauled her to him. The mare would be about to be 7 now. She was was (I think) 5, a person contacted us about getting a transfer for her papers. The guy we sold her to had apparently never transferred her papers and they were still in our name. He had sold her in a roping horse sale with her papers and no transfer, and the new owners had called AQHA to get our email to ask if we would be willing to sign a transfer. Of course, we helped with the paperwork because we wanted that horse to have the best chance possible, but I was not expecting to fill out a new transfer for a horse I had sold 3 or 4 years before. I've never had an arabian, so I don't know how helpful their association can be, but it never hurts to ask.
I think this is my issue right here, because technically, almost seven years ago now, he was sold. However, he was never transferred to the person he was sold to, and he's still registered to his breeder. I'm just not sure if I could do as you had and just sign a transfer as he's been through possibly 2+ previous owners. |
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CC Knabbstruppers said:
Shingashina said:
I would talk to the registry. I had an odd experience with some QH papers a year or 2 ago. We had bought a bucksin filly from her breeder when she was a yearling and we got her papers. Shen she was 2, we sold her to someone across the country and a friend of his hauled her to him. The mare would be about to be 7 now. She was was (I think) 5, a person contacted us about getting a transfer for her papers. The guy we sold her to had apparently never transferred her papers and they were still in our name. He had sold her in a roping horse sale with her papers and no transfer, and the new owners had called AQHA to get our email to ask if we would be willing to sign a transfer. Of course, we helped with the paperwork because we wanted that horse to have the best chance possible, but I was not expecting to fill out a new transfer for a horse I had sold 3 or 4 years before. I've never had an arabian, so I don't know how helpful their association can be, but it never hurts to ask.
I think this is my issue right here, because technically, almost seven years ago now, he was sold. However, he was never transferred to the person he was sold to, and he's still registered to his breeder. I'm just not sure if I could do as you had and just sign a transfer as he's been through possibly 2+ previous owners.
If he's registered under the breeder's name, they should be able to sign the papers over. You may have to pay the association extra fees, but the signature of the person holding his papers should be what you need to get them. |
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Shingashina said:
CC Knabbstruppers said:
Shingashina said:
I would talk to the registry. I had an odd experience with some QH papers a year or 2 ago. We had bought a bucksin filly from her breeder when she was a yearling and we got her papers. Shen she was 2, we sold her to someone across the country and a friend of his hauled her to him. The mare would be about to be 7 now. She was was (I think) 5, a person contacted us about getting a transfer for her papers. The guy we sold her to had apparently never transferred her papers and they were still in our name. He had sold her in a roping horse sale with her papers and no transfer, and the new owners had called AQHA to get our email to ask if we would be willing to sign a transfer. Of course, we helped with the paperwork because we wanted that horse to have the best chance possible, but I was not expecting to fill out a new transfer for a horse I had sold 3 or 4 years before. I've never had an arabian, so I don't know how helpful their association can be, but it never hurts to ask.
I think this is my issue right here, because technically, almost seven years ago now, he was sold. However, he was never transferred to the person he was sold to, and he's still registered to his breeder. I'm just not sure if I could do as you had and just sign a transfer as he's been through possibly 2+ previous owners.
If he's registered under the breeder's name, they should be able to sign the papers over. You may have to pay the association extra fees, but the signature of the person holding his papers should be what you need to get them.
Gotcha. She don't have the papers though either. She said they went to whoever she sold him to. His name is just under hers. |
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CC Knabbstruppers said:
Shingashina said:
CC Knabbstruppers said:
Shingashina said:
I would talk to the registry. I had an odd experience with some QH papers a year or 2 ago. We had bought a bucksin filly from her breeder when she was a yearling and we got her papers. Shen she was 2, we sold her to someone across the country and a friend of his hauled her to him. The mare would be about to be 7 now. She was was (I think) 5, a person contacted us about getting a transfer for her papers. The guy we sold her to had apparently never transferred her papers and they were still in our name. He had sold her in a roping horse sale with her papers and no transfer, and the new owners had called AQHA to get our email to ask if we would be willing to sign a transfer. Of course, we helped with the paperwork because we wanted that horse to have the best chance possible, but I was not expecting to fill out a new transfer for a horse I had sold 3 or 4 years before. I've never had an arabian, so I don't know how helpful their association can be, but it never hurts to ask.
I think this is my issue right here, because technically, almost seven years ago now, he was sold. However, he was never transferred to the person he was sold to, and he's still registered to his breeder. I'm just not sure if I could do as you had and just sign a transfer as he's been through possibly 2+ previous owners.
If he's registered under the breeder's name, they should be able to sign the papers over. You may have to pay the association extra fees, but the signature of the person holding his papers should be what you need to get them.
Gotcha. She don't have the papers though either. She said they went to whoever she sold him to. His name is just under hers.
Since he's under her name, she can order a set of duplicate papers, fill out the transfer, and give you that to send it. Duplicate papers would probably cost something like $50 to $100, and I have no idea what arabian transfer fees are. I'm surprised the owner wouldn't mention that considering they probably know about that if they've been having things registered. I've ordered like 3 sets of duplicate papers for my jersey cow because 50% of the times I've shown her, I've lost her papers in the chaos of my farm truck. Now I have 2 sets of her papers in the cabinet. |
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Okay. Another question (thank you so much by the way!) would a Bill of Sale need to be shown that I had bought him? And somebody mentions a coggins....? |
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You're welcome! I've never had to send in a bill of sale or a coggins when transferring papers. I don't think an association would be concerned about a coggins test since you aren't bringing the horse to them. If the transfer is signed, that's their proof that the horse has changed hands. Every time we get a new horse, they just come with the papers and transfer, sometimes not the coggins if we bought from a friend that doesn't haul them anywhere. We just mail in the papers and the transfer and wait for the new papers to come in. |
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