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KPH Equestrian
10:57:52 Rapcoon | Jester
lucky
right😭

he issss<3 and he's so smart, had his first time with long reins the other day and picked up on the cues in under half an hour :3
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Alpine Acres
10:56:27 Lily/Alpine
Totally agree! I'm a bitless rider myself :)
Also KPH he's adorable lol
Lucky Ranch
10:56:12 luhckeigh
omg he is. ADORABLE
i adore him what a cutie patootie
Lucky Ranch
10:55:39 luhckeigh
the mechanics of that bit leave a lottt to be desired too, wouldnt put any horse in that but definitely not one who isnt broke to bit pressure
KPH Equestrian
10:55:33 Rapcoon | Jester
This woman boggles my mind I swear
KPH Equestrian
10:55:09 Rapcoon | Jester
Nope, tis my boy Spitsy, who tried on a harness for the first time today :3
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Lucky Ranch
10:54:59 luhckeigh
HAHA i love you omg
plus if you dont have control in a snaffle they arent ready to get moved up to a curb anyways 😭why are moms always ragebaiting fr
Circle Star TBs
10:54:19 Lily
KPH
That's one of the softer curbs I've seen, but still clearly a curb 😭🤦🏻‍♀️
KPH Equestrian
10:54:06 Rapcoon | Jester
lucky
yuuup. She says WeLl iF he BolTs YoU wanT conTroL. Bitch if he's gonna get scared shitless and run he's gonna run, regardless of how I break his jaw😭
Lucky Ranch
10:53:28 luhckeigh
unfortunately its a common misconception that if the mouthpiece is smooth or jointed its a snaffle 🥲
good on you for sticking up for the horse! is it jazz?
KPH Equestrian
10:53:15 Rapcoon | Jester
gren
for some reason she thought it'd be good to put it in the hands of a 6 year old who couldn't even hold her hands still T-T I've managed to educate the child better though at least :')
Lucky Ranch
10:52:42 luhckeigh
tom thumb too ickyy
Greenheart Stables
10:51:23 Green|Gren|Grenlin
@KPH
Im not at all bit knowledgeable but that looks like something I wouldn't like in my mouth
KPH Equestrian
10:49:41 Rapcoon | Jester
My mother somehow STILL tries to argue that this bit is a snaffle just because it has a jointed mouthpiece🤦‍♀️😭it's a fucking curb, and I'm not using it on a horse who has had a bit in his mouth twice ever in his life
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Greenheart Stables
10:49:29 Green|Gren|Grenlin
@lucky
Thaaanks, ive acually been really bad with showing due to work so I'm glad ive been able chuck geldings around lmao
Lucky Ranch
10:47:01 luhckeigh
heck yeah get it green
Greenheart Stables
10:41:19 Green|Gren|Grenlin
1.2mil in total showing profit from showing this week 👀
Alpine Acres
10:36:06 Lily/Alpine
Sunni, I always have luck with sabino SH
Sunni
10:24:34 Sunni bunny
TB ain't giving me no luck either.
Moonlight Equestrian
10:22:04 ME
I get a lot of wild sabino TBs

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KPH Equestrian
10:57:52 Rapcoon | Jester
lucky
right😭

he issss<3 and he's so smart, had his first time with long reins the other day and picked up on the cues in under half an hour :3
-Click-
Alpine Acres
10:56:27 Lily/Alpine
Totally agree! I'm a bitless rider myself :)
Also KPH he's adorable lol
Lucky Ranch
10:56:12 luhckeigh
omg he is. ADORABLE
i adore him what a cutie patootie
Lucky Ranch
10:55:39 luhckeigh
the mechanics of that bit leave a lottt to be desired too, wouldnt put any horse in that but definitely not one who isnt broke to bit pressure
KPH Equestrian
10:55:33 Rapcoon | Jester
This woman boggles my mind I swear
KPH Equestrian
10:55:09 Rapcoon | Jester
Nope, tis my boy Spitsy, who tried on a harness for the first time today :3
-Click-
Lucky Ranch
10:54:59 luhckeigh
HAHA i love you omg
plus if you dont have control in a snaffle they arent ready to get moved up to a curb anyways 😭why are moms always ragebaiting fr
Circle Star TBs
10:54:19 Lily
KPH
That's one of the softer curbs I've seen, but still clearly a curb 😭🤦🏻‍♀️
KPH Equestrian
10:54:06 Rapcoon | Jester
lucky
yuuup. She says WeLl iF he BolTs YoU wanT conTroL. Bitch if he's gonna get scared shitless and run he's gonna run, regardless of how I break his jaw😭
Lucky Ranch
10:53:28 luhckeigh
unfortunately its a common misconception that if the mouthpiece is smooth or jointed its a snaffle 🥲
good on you for sticking up for the horse! is it jazz?
KPH Equestrian
10:53:15 Rapcoon | Jester
gren
for some reason she thought it'd be good to put it in the hands of a 6 year old who couldn't even hold her hands still T-T I've managed to educate the child better though at least :')
Lucky Ranch
10:52:42 luhckeigh
tom thumb too ickyy
Greenheart Stables
10:51:23 Green|Gren|Grenlin
@KPH
Im not at all bit knowledgeable but that looks like something I wouldn't like in my mouth
KPH Equestrian
10:49:41 Rapcoon | Jester
My mother somehow STILL tries to argue that this bit is a snaffle just because it has a jointed mouthpiece🤦‍♀️😭it's a fucking curb, and I'm not using it on a horse who has had a bit in his mouth twice ever in his life
-Click-
Greenheart Stables
10:49:29 Green|Gren|Grenlin
@lucky
Thaaanks, ive acually been really bad with showing due to work so I'm glad ive been able chuck geldings around lmao
Lucky Ranch
10:47:01 luhckeigh
heck yeah get it green
Greenheart Stables
10:41:19 Green|Gren|Grenlin
1.2mil in total showing profit from showing this week 👀
Alpine Acres
10:36:06 Lily/Alpine
Sunni, I always have luck with sabino SH
Sunni
10:24:34 Sunni bunny
TB ain't giving me no luck either.
Moonlight Equestrian
10:22:04 ME
I get a lot of wild sabino TBs

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Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:21 PM


Eastwood Acres
 
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I'm not to good with genetics and just tested her. If someone can help I'd like to know if there's anything special or noteworthy about her genetics :) Thank you in advance!

Edited at February 25, 2024 04:21 PM by Eastwood Acres
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:27 PM


The Joker

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Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:39 PM


Eastwood Acres
 
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The Joker said:
Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!


Thank you so much! I appreciate it a lot :)
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 05:01 PM


The Joker

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Eastwood Acres said:

The Joker said:
Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!


Thank you so much! I appreciate it a lot :)


Of course! Happy to help :) I believe the amber part of her colour is caused by her base colour of Ee which would usually be bay/brown, I may be incorrect though and it may be linked to the agouti gene instead
Genetic Help February 26, 2024 01:28 PM


Clear Springs
 
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Champagnes have weird color names.
Gold Champagne = Chestnut (ee ??) + Champagne gene
Amber Champagne = Bay (E?A?) + Champagne gene
Sable Champagne = Brown (E?At?) + Champagne gene
Classic Champagne = Black (E?aa)+ Champagne gene

So the "Amber" part of her color just means she would be a plain bay horse without the Champagne gene. She's E(black-based) A(agouti) plus Ch(Champagne). She also has that At gene in there which doesn't show on her, but means she could have a brown foal.

The Extension (E/e) gene just determines if a horse is black-based or red-based. If the horse has at least one E gene it's black-based, if ee it's red-based. All horse colors are one or the other with modifiers added for colors besides Black and Chestnut.

The Agouti (A/At/a) gene here is considered only active in black-based horses, so a horse that is red-based (ee) won't express it no matter what alleles are present. What it does is restrict where on the horse black pigment is fully expressed. It limits actual black to the "points" of the horse and leaves the body lacking enough pigment to be truly black, so it's just sort of a faded black color (which appears red, but isn't). So a horse with E?A? is the full-on Agouti color we call "bay" with black points and reddish body. A horse with E?At? has more expression of pigment on the body, has brown "highlights" on the nose, flank, etc and black points and is called "brown". A horse with E?aa is black all over with no restriction from the Agouti gene.

So now we have what E/e and A/At/a are and what they mean to horse colors, you can take all those and apply the modifiers like the white-spotting patterns (Tobiano, Sabino, Frame), Roan, Dun, etc and add in that Champagne has those weird names and so does Cream(CcrC) (Chestnut + Cream = Palomino, Bay + Cream = Buckskin, Brown + Cream = Brown Buckskin, Black + Cream = Smoky Black) and Double Cream(CcrCcr) (Chestnut = Cremello, Bay/Brown = Perlino, Black = Smoky Cream).

Most of the genes here are dominantly-expressed (the capital letter means the horse has that trait), but Pearl is recessive (a horse must have prlprl to be Pearl) and Agouti has 3 alleles, where A overrides the other two, At only overrides a and aa means "non-Agouti).

Hope that helps some people who are still a bit confused. Variable color names don't help. It's like the gene that's called merle in every other dog breed is called dapple in dachshunds. You just have to learn the color names and roll with it.

Edited at February 26, 2024 02:06 PM by Clear Springs
Genetic Help February 26, 2024 10:38 PM


Eastwood Acres
 
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Clear Springs said:
Champagnes have weird color names.
Gold Champagne = Chestnut (ee ??) + Champagne gene
Amber Champagne = Bay (E?A?) + Champagne gene
Sable Champagne = Brown (E?At?) + Champagne gene
Classic Champagne = Black (E?aa)+ Champagne gene

So the "Amber" part of her color just means she would be a plain bay horse without the Champagne gene. She's E(black-based) A(agouti) plus Ch(Champagne). She also has that At gene in there which doesn't show on her, but means she could have a brown foal.

The Extension (E/e) gene just determines if a horse is black-based or red-based. If the horse has at least one E gene it's black-based, if ee it's red-based. All horse colors are one or the other with modifiers added for colors besides Black and Chestnut.

The Agouti (A/At/a) gene here is considered only active in black-based horses, so a horse that is red-based (ee) won't express it no matter what alleles are present. What it does is restrict where on the horse black pigment is fully expressed. It limits actual black to the "points" of the horse and leaves the body lacking enough pigment to be truly black, so it's just sort of a faded black color (which appears red, but isn't). So a horse with E?A? is the full-on Agouti color we call "bay" with black points and reddish body. A horse with E?At? has more expression of pigment on the body, has brown "highlights" on the nose, flank, etc and black points and is called "brown". A horse with E?aa is black all over with no restriction from the Agouti gene.

So now we have what E/e and A/At/a are and what they mean to horse colors, you can take all those and apply the modifiers like the white-spotting patterns (Tobiano, Sabino, Frame), Roan, Dun, etc and add in that Champagne has those weird names and so does Cream(CcrC) (Chestnut + Cream = Palomino, Bay + Cream = Buckskin, Brown + Cream = Brown Buckskin, Black + Cream = Smoky Black) and Double Cream(CcrCcr) (Chestnut = Cremello, Bay/Brown = Perlino, Black = Smoky Cream).

Most of the genes here are dominantly-expressed (the capital letter means the horse has that trait), but Pearl is recessive (a horse must have prlprl to be Pearl) and Agouti has 3 alleles, where A overrides the other two, At only overrides a and aa means "non-Agouti).

Hope that helps some people who are still a bit confused. Variable color names don't help. It's like the gene that's called merle in every other dog breed is called dapple in dachshunds. You just have to learn the color names and roll with it.


Thank you!

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