The breeds being talked about don't carry Lp. They can carry PATN. PATN is the gene that makes the 'flash', but it won't do anything without Lp. The breeds are still going to need a LpLp horse for maximum viability, otherwise, there's just going to be a lot of SH being produced. Genetics is still something that's going to have to be paid attention to.

If anything, the value of LpLp KNN stallions is going to skyrocket even more than they already have for outcrossing reasons.

The Old Gods said:

The breeds being talked about don't carry Lp. They can carry PATN. PATN is the gene that makes the 'flash', but it won't do anything without Lp. The breeds are still going to need a LpLp horse for maximum viability, otherwise, there's just going to be a lot of SH being produced. Genetics is still something that's going to have to be paid attention to.

If anything, the value of LpLp KNN stallions is going to skyrocket even more than they already have for outcrossing reasons.

Stormsong Manor said:

I thought about this for a while and this is the conclusion I've reached. If it were a year or two in the past, I would have voted yes, because KNN have been struggling on the LBs forever. But I'm seeing a movement of people taking them more seriously, in addition to the handful of people who have been devoted to them since day one. They're the most challenging breed in the game because of the color requirements and the lack of outcrossing opportunities. I think it should stay that way. Instead of making it easier for people to jump in with other breeds, let's see even more people taking the breed as it is seriously. Basq is opening doors, and now we have another KNN stud 30-something ABLB.

First I want to thank those who liked my idea that I posted for the gentics of a KNNxWB crossing and how it could be played out, but I realized I fubared the gentics since I forgot a few things. Here's the revamp.

KNNxKNN (Both parents) = KNN is the same as in the game guide, fillies have the LP comples and colts have LP complex + Patn. If requirements aren't met then SH.

KNNxWB (KNN sire WB dam) = KNN foal if fillies have the LP complex and colts have the LP complex + Patn. And no pinto (To, O, Spl, or Sb) genes from the WB parent even if the gene is hidden.

KNNxWB (KNN sire WB dam) = WB foal if the foal has pinto or solid genes and no LP or LP+Patn. The foal would only be a SH if it has LP mixed with pinto genes since LP doesn't show up in the WB in game, but Patn does.

WBxKNN (WB sire KNN dam) = WB foal if the foal has pinto or solid genes and no LP or LP+ Patn complexs. KNN foal if has only solid color with LP only for fillies or LP + Patn for colts. SH foals if they have LP, LP+Patn with pinto genes.

It would still be hard to breed a KNN and it would also be hard to breed a WB cross due to the pinto genes that show up in WBs.

I think if this is introduced, it should only be allowed for WB crosses. As in the RL KNN registry the mares (or stallions) that are already approved for WB registeries can produce KNN when bred to other KNNs (granted foal without color are still KNN but I could see us being flooded with "plain" KNNs, I digress)

TB/AA/Appaloosa/PRE mares can be inspected by the KNN registry and approved (or not) to produce KNNs in various books (TB, Arabians can produce main book, other breeds, they must produce filies as the colts wont be eligible - not that its related to this game since we dont have those breeds) if those mares have already been approved by a WB registry then the KNN will not need to inspect...

I say all that to say, I think WB should be the only allowable out cross...and TBH I think when the KNNs are plain the foal should be WB not SH (maybe unpopular opinion)