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Shadow Mtn
07:58:26 
Have to chime in here, I worked for CVS. Had a drunk guy come in around closing, go to the restroom, and come out naked. Yep, as the day he was born. He said he thought he was home and going to take a shower.
Black Dragon Stable
07:58:01 BDS / Black / Stormy
I don't even have a degree. I got 'lucky' and got my foot in the door, but then the family friend who got me in retired and we also had a new director come in, and that's when it got really really bad.
Paradise Stables
07:52:07 Ariel / Tara
What breed is the most likely to be captured with tobiano?
Shroom
07:47:35 
Black, what's funny is I got my MLIS and thought I wanted to work in a library. I won't go near any public ones, at best I will work at a university library.
Minerva
07:41:57 Min
Gosh im glad im not customer facing haha. When I worked at a riding school I had a kid refuse to ride a pony because it was the wrong colour once- that didn't go down well funnily enough haha
Black Dragon Stable
07:33:01 BDS / Black / Stormy
Now I just get yelled at by stressed out managers and nod and nod and nod until they go away and then ignore whatever it was they were yelling at me about while they go yell at someone else after me.
Boulder Creek
07:29:54 
I'm glad the only ones I work with swish their tails and bang on the gate if I'm late with food.
Black Dragon Stable
07:29:06 BDS / Black / Stormy
Oh, I got the cops called on me because one of the mentally disabled got mad I told her she couldn't check out the stack of 20 DVDs she had (only 3) and she started screaming that I stole her wallet. Almost forgot about that one!
Black Dragon Stable
07:26:39 BDS / Black / Stormy
What's sad? At the time I lived in a town of 6000 people. In the midwest. In the middle of a cornfield where there was supposedly next to zero crime.
CWY country
07:26:21 C
@Stormy
That's nuts.
Black Dragon Stable
07:25:13 BDS / Black / Stormy
Boss writing me up for fear mongering when I told coworkers the doctor told me I most likely had covid but I didn't qualify for a test early 2020 when that all kicked off (she told me I just had a bad sinus infection. I got further in trouble after I asked her when and where she got her medical degree?)

I no longer work at a library. lol. Now I go sling boxes at Amazon where I have no customer/patron interaction.
Skyward Stud
07:25:09 Skrangle
Jesus Mary and Joseph
Black Dragon Stable
07:21:48 BDS / Black / Stormy
Having to call the cops because of the not all there peeps decided to start destroying the children's area because the aliens were coming out of the shelves to get them.
Black Dragon Stable
07:20:46 BDS / Black / Stormy
Getting screamed at over a 30 cent fine and death threats because of it. Library staff stalkers....
Black Dragon Stable
07:19:42 BDS / Black / Stormy
We got swarmed by cops on two different occasions because the bank next door got robbed twice and someone said the culprit dashed into our building.
Skyward Stud
07:19:01 Skrangle
@stormy screaming
Black Dragon Stable
07:18:39 BDS / Black / Stormy
Worst incident I remember? We had to start locking the public restrooms. Someone decided to smear waste matter all over the bathroom... Not once. Not twice... but on three separate occasions. Grown ass adults too.
Ponies heaven
07:17:26 Pera/ peral
@Stormy
Ooh, yess, you have me intrigued as well
Skyward Stud
07:15:28 Skrangle
@Stormy please tell me more, I must know
Black Dragon Stable
07:13:38 BDS / Black / Stormy
If you think retail is bad (I know it is, I've had family work at Walmart and various other places), you should work at an American public library! It's NUTS.

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Shadow Mtn
07:58:26 
Have to chime in here, I worked for CVS. Had a drunk guy come in around closing, go to the restroom, and come out naked. Yep, as the day he was born. He said he thought he was home and going to take a shower.
Black Dragon Stable
07:58:01 BDS / Black / Stormy
I don't even have a degree. I got 'lucky' and got my foot in the door, but then the family friend who got me in retired and we also had a new director come in, and that's when it got really really bad.
Paradise Stables
07:52:07 Ariel / Tara
What breed is the most likely to be captured with tobiano?
Shroom
07:47:35 
Black, what's funny is I got my MLIS and thought I wanted to work in a library. I won't go near any public ones, at best I will work at a university library.
Minerva
07:41:57 Min
Gosh im glad im not customer facing haha. When I worked at a riding school I had a kid refuse to ride a pony because it was the wrong colour once- that didn't go down well funnily enough haha
Black Dragon Stable
07:33:01 BDS / Black / Stormy
Now I just get yelled at by stressed out managers and nod and nod and nod until they go away and then ignore whatever it was they were yelling at me about while they go yell at someone else after me.
Boulder Creek
07:29:54 
I'm glad the only ones I work with swish their tails and bang on the gate if I'm late with food.
Black Dragon Stable
07:29:06 BDS / Black / Stormy
Oh, I got the cops called on me because one of the mentally disabled got mad I told her she couldn't check out the stack of 20 DVDs she had (only 3) and she started screaming that I stole her wallet. Almost forgot about that one!
Black Dragon Stable
07:26:39 BDS / Black / Stormy
What's sad? At the time I lived in a town of 6000 people. In the midwest. In the middle of a cornfield where there was supposedly next to zero crime.
CWY country
07:26:21 C
@Stormy
That's nuts.
Black Dragon Stable
07:25:13 BDS / Black / Stormy
Boss writing me up for fear mongering when I told coworkers the doctor told me I most likely had covid but I didn't qualify for a test early 2020 when that all kicked off (she told me I just had a bad sinus infection. I got further in trouble after I asked her when and where she got her medical degree?)

I no longer work at a library. lol. Now I go sling boxes at Amazon where I have no customer/patron interaction.
Skyward Stud
07:25:09 Skrangle
Jesus Mary and Joseph
Black Dragon Stable
07:21:48 BDS / Black / Stormy
Having to call the cops because of the not all there peeps decided to start destroying the children's area because the aliens were coming out of the shelves to get them.
Black Dragon Stable
07:20:46 BDS / Black / Stormy
Getting screamed at over a 30 cent fine and death threats because of it. Library staff stalkers....
Black Dragon Stable
07:19:42 BDS / Black / Stormy
We got swarmed by cops on two different occasions because the bank next door got robbed twice and someone said the culprit dashed into our building.
Skyward Stud
07:19:01 Skrangle
@stormy screaming
Black Dragon Stable
07:18:39 BDS / Black / Stormy
Worst incident I remember? We had to start locking the public restrooms. Someone decided to smear waste matter all over the bathroom... Not once. Not twice... but on three separate occasions. Grown ass adults too.
Ponies heaven
07:17:26 Pera/ peral
@Stormy
Ooh, yess, you have me intrigued as well
Skyward Stud
07:15:28 Skrangle
@Stormy please tell me more, I must know
Black Dragon Stable
07:13:38 BDS / Black / Stormy
If you think retail is bad (I know it is, I've had family work at Walmart and various other places), you should work at an American public library! It's NUTS.

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feet/hooves January 23, 2023 12:37 AM


Kiwi Mountains
 
Posts: 3202
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I struggle horrendously with hooves in almost all my pieces where hooves are touching the ground visably and besides the other things I could work on these hooves are supidly annoying I try and try and still seem to be getting no better at it. Just though I'd come and ask if anyone has any tips on how to help me out a little. Or ever to ask if I am over exaggerating this.
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feet/hooves January 23, 2023 03:23 AM


SilverFern Stables
 
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I am by no means a hoof master - but I think I may be able to provide some tips!

I certainly don't think you're hooves are too bad, but personally there are a few things I would do differently. Personally I like less smudged hooves, as I go for a less painted look with my horses. I generally try to preserve as much as the original hooves on the stock as possible, then I use the clone tool to fill them out and create the proper shape/cover up any grass etc. When I do it I always try and preserve the natural colour changes and even grain in the image, so I tend to use a size 7ish brush and clone from areas directly above/below etc but in separate 'dots' if that makes sense , ie I don't drag the brush. For me that stops the hooves from becoming overly muddy in colour and preserves their natural grain and colour. It's only after I get the shape right doing this method that I do any smudging - which for me is pretty minimal as I go for more realistic look and the details on the hoof are quite delicate. That is just my personal method though, and I tend to se stock that has at least one visible hoof so that I can reuse its texture if I need to repaint the others.

In terms of grounding, I think you've done quite well with the last two, especially the left side of the green image. I would suggest trying out putting a darker, more localized shadow directly beneath a hoof that's on the ground in addition to the rest of the shadows, as I find this helps especially when there isn't much grass etc covering the hoof (ie the first image). What I would also be inclined to do would be to lightly darken the bottom of the hooves themselves that are on the ground, especially if there is grass or sand as this can create a slight shadow.

Here is a quick breakdown of nit-picky things I would do differently on each of the pieces - but don't take these as gospel, but my preference!

1. The main thing that sticks out is the colour, while you don't want super dark hooves with white socks, I'd stay away from going too pink - aim for a more grey/white/even yellowish colour such as with the last image. I'd have a go at adding an extra dark shadow right under the hoof as well, and darken the hoof bottom. I'd also say the closer front hoof is a tad too long but that's very pedantic lol

2. The colour works a lot better here, I would just try to darken the hooves around where the sand sits in fort to show some shadow/blend it better. Again this is pedantic, but I feel the front hoof on the ground should have a more angled left side so that it comes out a bit more to the side - try following the angle/line of the pastern downwards to the ground.

3. The grounding is really nice with the grass and I like the less smudged (lighter) front hoof. My only hang up would be the darker front hoof, it looks a bit blocky so I would erase more of it so it looks like more grass is covering it. I would also consider making it lighter so it better matches the other hooves.

4. I think this one fits really nicely with your art style - the hooves don't feel overly smudged or totally one colour, but are also in a similar painted style to the horses body. The only thing I'd try would be darkening the hoof on the ground just above were the sand covers it to add a bit of shadow.

Overall I think you are doing great! These are just my preferences and I find that no horse stock can be treated the same, you just have to play around and try different things - so don't get discouraged. I apologies for the essay lol, It may not even be the sort of feedback you wanted, but I clearly quite like my hooves! Hopefully this all makes sense, feel free to PM me if you ever need help!

feet/hooves January 23, 2023 03:37 AM


Kiwi Mountains
 
Posts: 3202
#1059004
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SilverFern Stables said:

I am by no means a hoof master - but I think I may be able to provide some tips!

I certainly don't think you're hooves are too bad, but personally there are a few things I would do differently. Personally I like less smudged hooves, as I go for a less painted look with my horses. I generally try to preserve as much as the original hooves on the stock as possible, then I use the clone tool to fill them out and create the proper shape/cover up any grass etc. When I do it I always try and preserve the natural colour changes and even grain in the image, so I tend to use a size 7ish brush and clone from areas directly above/below etc but in separate 'dots' if that makes sense , ie I don't drag the brush. For me that stops the hooves from becoming overly muddy in colour and preserves their natural grain and colour. It's only after I get the shape right doing this method that I do any smudging - which for me is pretty minimal as I go for more realistic look and the details on the hoof are quite delicate. That is just my personal method though, and I tend to se stock that has at least one visible hoof so that I can reuse its texture if I need to repaint the others.

In terms of grounding, I think you've done quite well with the last two, especially the left side of the green image. I would suggest trying out putting a darker, more localized shadow directly beneath a hoof that's on the ground in addition to the rest of the shadows, as I find this helps especially when there isn't much grass etc covering the hoof (ie the first image). What I would also be inclined to do would be to lightly darken the bottom of the hooves themselves that are on the ground, especially if there is grass or sand as this can create a slight shadow.

Here is a quick breakdown of nit-picky things I would do differently on each of the pieces - but don't take these as gospel, but my preference!

1. The main thing that sticks out is the colour, while you don't want super dark hooves with white socks, I'd stay away from going too pink - aim for a more grey/white/even yellowish colour such as with the last image. I'd have a go at adding an extra dark shadow right under the hoof as well, and darken the hoof bottom. I'd also say the closer front hoof is a tad too long but that's very pedantic lol

2. The colour works a lot better here, I would just try to darken the hooves around where the sand sits in fort to show some shadow/blend it better. Again this is pedantic, but I feel the front hoof on the ground should have a more angled left side so that it comes out a bit more to the side - try following the angle/line of the pastern downwards to the ground.

3. The grounding is really nice with the grass and I like the less smudged (lighter) front hoof. My only hang up would be the darker front hoof, it looks a bit blocky so I would erase more of it so it looks like more grass is covering it. I would also consider making it lighter so it better matches the other hooves.

4. I think this one fits really nicely with your art style - the hooves don't feel overly smudged or totally one colour, but are also in a similar painted style to the horses body. The only thing I'd try would be darkening the hoof on the ground just above were the sand covers it to add a bit of shadow.

Overall I think you are doing great! These are just my preferences and I find that no horse stock can be treated the same, you just have to play around and try different things - so don't get discouraged. I apologies for the essay lol, It may not even be the sort of feedback you wanted, but I clearly quite like my hooves! Hopefully this all makes sense, feel free to PM me if you ever need help!



thanks a lot! ^^

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