Horse Eden : Genetics

10:33:37 Bird

@Charm, do you by chance have a photo of your tank?

Charmed Acres

10:30:53 Charm/Charmie

No. Nalo is in a 20 gallon long, which is about 12" tall.

Charmed Acres

10:29:48 Charm/Charmie

My 20 gallon is an Aqueon, my 40 is a Marineland (I think). I love them both. And if you buy them new, stores will have a return policy on them in case a seam leaks or theres a crack you can't see.

The only time I recommend buying second-hand is if you're purchasing a large tank and are willing to learn how to reseal it. Otherwise, it's cheaper (and safer) to buy from a store!

10:29:05 Bird

Oh also, I heard betta fish like shallow water so does that mean something as tall as 12" is too tall for them?

10:27:10 Bird

Do you guys have any tank brand recommendations? I definitely need one with a lid.

Charmed Acres

10:22:26 Charm/Charmie

They are great for supplies! Our LFS actually partners with them because of how much they recommend them.

Dash and Duchess

10:22:11 DD | ~Squizard~

Ah shoot, I've got to go! Good luck with the fish Bird and good luck on wk 4s everyone! <3

10:21:15 Bird

I was thinking of ordering supplies from this company. I have heard good things and they have good guides.
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ZequineZ

10:21:03 ZEZ - ZZ

Checkout used tanks often people will be nearly giving them away, just make sure to fill it up outside first for a few days to make sure it’s not leaking. Never take a tank with cracks even if they’re small and are current ply holding water

Backwood Barns

10:19:31 Charm's Wubs

Or, you can typically do it cheaper by piecing it together yourself. Tank, light, cover(optional), heater, filter, air pump, airline hoses, bubble wand, substrate, and then obviously decorations (nothing plastic) and the fish.

Kangaroo Studs

10:18:35 ZequineZ - ZZ

I reccomend tetras as well, you want a lot 10-20 as theyre schooling fish and they have a high casualty rate especially when you first get them

Dash and Duchess

10:18:03 DD | ~Squizard~

*ill xD

Backwood Barns

10:17:59 Charm's Wubs

You can get a 20 gallon tall kit at most pet stores for about $200 that will include just about everything except substrate, plants, and fish.

Dash and Duchess

10:16:29 DD | ~Squizard~

Bird, I loved my tetras, I believe I had the 2 for 4/5 years? But do be weary when you get them, I originally had 4 but unfortunately we lost 2 very shortly after due to the 'professionals' we talked with I'll informing us on the best amount for our tank!

10:15:34 Bird

@charm, I was hoping to keep it less than $500

Versailles

10:15:19 Versa

Should always try our best with animals. Research is worth it

Backwood Barns

10:14:43 Charm's Wubs

Like with anything it takes a lot of research (and it's a bit of an investment) to do things right.

Versailles

10:14:17 Versa

Bettas are definitely able to get away with a 10. I just wouldn't go lower, they explore and swim around way more than people realize

Wings Of Glory

10:14:08 O Great Potato Wing

After 3 months of work and almost 20k down the drain my truck will finally be repaired and drivable tomorrow >_< proud of myself for not giving up

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10:33:37 Bird

@Charm, do you by chance have a photo of your tank?

Charmed Acres

10:30:53 Charm/Charmie

No. Nalo is in a 20 gallon long, which is about 12" tall.

Charmed Acres

10:29:48 Charm/Charmie

10:29:05 Bird

Oh also, I heard betta fish like shallow water so does that mean something as tall as 12" is too tall for them?

10:27:10 Bird

Do you guys have any tank brand recommendations? I definitely need one with a lid.

Charmed Acres

10:22:26 Charm/Charmie

They are great for supplies! Our LFS actually partners with them because of how much they recommend them.

Dash and Duchess

10:22:11 DD | ~Squizard~

Ah shoot, I've got to go! Good luck with the fish Bird and good luck on wk 4s everyone! <3

10:21:15 Bird

I was thinking of ordering supplies from this company. I have heard good things and they have good guides.
-Click-

ZequineZ

10:21:03 ZEZ - ZZ

Backwood Barns

10:19:31 Charm's Wubs

Kangaroo Studs

10:18:35 ZequineZ - ZZ

I reccomend tetras as well, you want a lot 10-20 as theyre schooling fish and they have a high casualty rate especially when you first get them

Dash and Duchess

10:18:03 DD | ~Squizard~

*ill xD

Backwood Barns

10:17:59 Charm's Wubs

You can get a 20 gallon tall kit at most pet stores for about $200 that will include just about everything except substrate, plants, and fish.

Dash and Duchess

10:16:29 DD | ~Squizard~

10:15:34 Bird

@charm, I was hoping to keep it less than $500

Versailles

10:15:19 Versa

Should always try our best with animals. Research is worth it

Backwood Barns

10:14:43 Charm's Wubs

Like with anything it takes a lot of research (and it's a bit of an investment) to do things right.

Versailles

10:14:17 Versa

Bettas are definitely able to get away with a 10. I just wouldn't go lower, they explore and swim around way more than people realize

Wings Of Glory

10:14:08 O Great Potato Wing

After 3 months of work and almost 20k down the drain my truck will finally be repaired and drivable tomorrow >_< proud of myself for not giving up

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May 29, 2024 07:07 PM

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Genetics. I don't get them, but I want to win the game.. anyone wanna help me?

May 29, 2024 10:00 PM

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What are you having trouble understanding?

May 29, 2024 10:03 PM

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All of it lol, i cant seem to figure out how each gene combines with the other.. Genetics were my hardst time in science

May 29, 2024 10:13 PM

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Okay. I haven't played it yet today, so I'll see if I can write out how I do it with my combo as an example.

May 29, 2024 10:29 PM

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Ok thanks!

May 29, 2024 10:30 PM

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Edited at May 29, 2024 10:32 PM by Eyrie of the Stars

May 29, 2024 11:02 PM

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Writing orr? No rush!

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The first thing I do is copy and paste the parent's genetics into a doc so that I don't have to worry about the page timing out, and I can highlight and number things to keep track of stuff. Also, the first time I set up the doc, I wrote out a string with all the recessive variations and copied and pasted it 100 times, so each time I do the game, I can just copy/paste change the parts I need to and revert that back once I'm finished.

I look at each gene, find the ones that differ, and do a punnet square for each of those. I've gotten to the point where I can do those in my head, so then I highlight the genes to help me remember how many outcomes they each had. You don't have to do that, but it could be helpful for the next steps. I highlight genes with a difference but only one outcome red, those with two outcomes yellow, and those with three outcomes green. Agouti can sometimes have four separate outcomes, and then I highlight it pink.

The next thing I do is multiply the individual outcomes together and make sure I get the same number as the number of possibilities that the game said I had, to make sure I didn't make a mistake. 2^8 = 256, so I'm good here. Then I find and replace genes in my default strings where the recessive version is not an outcome (Agouti and PATN-2 here).

Then I start pasting changes string by string to the genes with more than one outcome. I divide the total number of possibilities (and then my answer continuing on down to 1) by the number of outcomes for each gene to know how often to vary those outcomes in my strings. 256/2 = 128, so my 100 answers could have ee for Extension, and I wouldn't have to make any changes. 128/2 = 64, so my first 64 strings can be CC, but then I have to change the rest to CcrC. 64/2 = 32, so I alternate dd and Dd every 32 strings. 32/2 = 16, so I alternate zz and Zz every 16 strings. 16/2 = 8, so I alternate sbsb and Sbsb every 8 strings. 8/2 = 4, so I alternate oo and Oo every 4 strings. 4/2 = 2, so I alternate patn-1patn-1 and PATN-1patn-1 every 2 strings. Then 2/2 = 1, so I alternate PATN-2PATN-2 and PATN-2patn-2 every other string, and then I have my answers. I paste them into the game, hit submit, and hope I didn't make any mistakes.

Hope this helps and let me know if you're confused by any of this!

Edited at May 29, 2024 11:38 PM by Eyrie of the Stars

June 3, 2024 02:04 PM

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What I like to do is go gene by gene. I hope I can make my method make sense. I’ll use today’s horses as my example.

Today’s Sire: ee,AtAt,CC,rnrn,Dd,PrlPrl,zz,chch,gg,ww,toto,splspl,sbsb,rbrb,oo,lplp,patn-1patn-1,patn-2patn-2

Today’s Dam:
Ee,AA,CC,Rnrn,Dd,PrlPrl,zz,chch,gg,ww,Toto,splspl,sbsb,Rbrb,oo,LpLp,PATN-1PATN-1,patn-2patn-2

1.) For each gene, we take one from each parent. Starting with Extension (E or e), the combinations we can get for this sire and dam are “Ee” and “ee”. Our starting lines are going to be:

2.) Next we have agouti and cream, which both only have one possible combination from these parents - “AtA” and “CC”. We add those to the two starting lines, and now we have:

Ee,Ata,CC

ee,Ata,CC

3.) For roan, we’re back to two possible combinations - “rnrn” and “Rnrn”. What we’re going to do now is copy/paste the two starting lines, so both possibilities are accounted for in both ways:

Ee,Ata,CC,rnrn

ee,Ata,CC,rnrn

((Showing separation))

Ee,Ata,CC,Rnrn

ee,Ata,CC,Rnrn

4.) For dun, we now have three possible combinations - “dd”, “Dd”, and “DD”. Just like before, we’re going to copy/paste, but now we’re going to have three total copies:

Ee,Ata,CC,rnrn,dd

ee,Ata,CC,rnrn,dd

Ee,Ata,CC,Rnrn,dd

ee,Ata,CC,Rnrn,dd

((Showing separation))

Ee,Ata,CC,rnrn,Dd

ee,Ata,CC,rnrn,Dd

Ee,Ata,CC,Rnrn,Dd

ee,Ata,CC,Rnrn,Dd

((Showing separation))

Ee,Ata,CC,rnrn,DD

ee,Ata,CC,rnrn,DD

Ee,Ata,CC,Rnrn,DD

ee,Ata,CC,Rnrn,DD

5.) Pearl (PrlPrl), silver (zz), champagne (chch), grey (gg), and white (ww) all only have only possible combination. That means we can add them all to the end of the framework we have now:

Ee,Ata,CC,rnrn,dd,PrlPrl,zz,chch,gg,ww,

ee,Ata,CC,rnrn,dd,PrlPrl,zz,chch,gg,ww,

Ee,Ata,CC,Rnrn,dd,PrlPrl,zz,chch,gg,ww,

ee,Ata,CC,Rnrn,dd,PrlPrl,zz,chch,gg,ww,

Ee,Ata,CC,rnrn,Dd,PrlPrl,zz,chch,gg,ww,

ee,Ata,CC,rnrn,Dd,PrlPrl,zz,chch,gg,ww,

Ee,Ata,CC,Rnrn,Dd,PrlPrl,zz,chch,gg,ww,

ee,Ata,CC,Rnrn,Dd,PrlPrl,zz,chch,gg,ww,

Ee,Ata,CC,rnrn,DD,PrlPrl,zz,chch,gg,ww,

ee,Ata,CC,rnrn,DD,PrlPrl,zz,chch,gg,ww,

Ee,Ata,CC,Rnrn,DD,PrlPrl,zz,chch,gg,ww,

ee,Ata,CC,Rnrn,DD,PrlPrl,zz,chch,gg,ww,

***

With that, all the possible variations of adding to the framework have been covered. Each gene can have from 1-3 combinations, which you add to the end of possibilities you’ve calculated so far. If you continue the chronological pattern of copying/pasting the growing framework to account for different combinations per gene, you’ll end up with a complete list of all possibilities!

Edited at June 3, 2024 02:04 PM by Cimarron Wind