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Oh sorry I'll remove the emojis I didn't realize the came off that way :( I'm again not very involved with this (community?) And those were just my personal experiences, which I understand doesn't not nessasairly represent all off these (orientatations?) I really truly mean no harm :) Edited at March 1, 2025 12:47 AM by Wolf Dancer
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some bits and bobs now that i feel a little braver lmao Aspen Creek Stables said: Honestly, heterosexual IS part of the LGBTQ community because it still counts as AN orientation, whether people think it or not.
lgbtqia+ is not just about orientations, it is gender as well. it is queerness as a whole and heterosexual is not a marginalized identity. the rest of your post is nice though :3 +what reprobate said! The Old Gods said: I don't think I've ever gone more than a day or two without someone in main chat talking about how they're going on a date, their boyfriend/husband, etc. But if someone who isn't straight does the same, it's suddenly scandalous? pregnancies, passings, and (straight) dates in chat a-ok but god forbid the queer talk about their cute date !! The Old Gods said: It's actually funny, in a sad sort of way, that if I said christianity is against my beliefs due to they way I've been treated...People would be coming out of the woodwork...And frequently do. Christians who use their religion specifically as a defense/excuse for being homophobic/transphobic do not make a good impression of Christians for me. :( I know there are understanding and accepting folks out there but when it feels like the loudest ones are the.. those.. anyways lol, it comforts me to know there's folks in this thread I can definitely be comfortable and safe around. 🌈 Edited at March 1, 2025 01:07 AM by starmutt
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Did my post come across as disrespectful? If so I truly didn't mean to seem disrespectful! I again am just not familier with the correct terminologoy that is used :(
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I am a generally very quiet person, and very non-confrontational. However this somehow 'controversial' of subject is one that will get me talking, and very defensive over. Because it comes down more to human rights and education more than it does anything else to me. . It will never make sense to me why some people feel the need to go out of their way to share unwarrented, and frankly useless opinions, especially when it comes to LGBTQ related subjects. This poll is not a 'do you support or do you not' poll. It is a 'who is and who isn't' yet somehow so many of the comments are people sharing their opinions, that are entirely unrelated to the posted topic. . I personally really enjoy finding my own communities inside larger communities! I often find it can make me a lot less anxious when I find things I have in common with others. Especially when I know there is also a decent amount of people who view me as disgusting, simply for being born different to the way they've been taught is 'correct'. . What I find rather ironic, is people going on about 'LGBT topics being everywhere', when you have to go out of your way to choose to click on and interact with forums 🤨 Not specifically related to this thread, but something I've found with pretty much anything LGBT on any forum, on any website. Edited at May 12, 2025 03:08 AM by Kiwi Mountains
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@Wolf Dancer The way you phrased everything is very careful and I wouldn't call much of it disrespectful! The disrespectful part of it is saying you don't.. "support it"? That can mean a lot of things and usually when people say that they mean they don't believe we should have equal rights and legal protections, or sometimes even more violent things. It can also mean you don't think people should be/should be allowed to be queer, which, y'know, again, not great! So when I hear someone say that as nicely and, frankly, respectfully as you have, I can't help but wonder, just what do you mean by "not supporting it"? 🤔 . I don't want to come off as attacking you, you genuinely seem to want to understand things better and how to approach the topic, and I wouldn't want to alienate you, even if I don't agree with you because.. y'know, I like existing as I am and I think I would enjoy my identity not be a topic of culture war eventually haha Edited at March 1, 2025 02:47 AM by Reprobate
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When I say I don't support I suppose I mean it's not a path? that I would choose for myself personally. Thanks for being nice I again just don't know much!
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Thank you for explaining!! . If you'd like some info on the matter I'll ramble a bit here, if not then.. well, feel free to not read it, haha! And keep in mind, I am admittedly somewhat building a strawman of sorts to argue against here, with positions I assume you/your environment might hold, since I don't know much of what you do believe! . First of all, both queer and LGBTQ+ are umbrella terms, encompassing many identities, none of which people choose for themselves, but rather things they are born with! In a world where being gay or transgender can put you in the way of physical harm and horrible discrimination (due to which people often end up in poverty), would one really choose to be that? Or take intersex people, who are also included under the umbrella term, would you say they chose to be intersex? That it's a path they're taking? Surely not! . I'm assuming when you see the terms queer or LGBTQ+, you probably default to homosexuality in your head, [and again, this is fully an assumption; as mentioned in my second paragraph, I'm going to be assigning you some viewpoints here only to be able to built my arguments and better explain things; I by no means truly believe you hold these positions/think this way, that is for you to know <3] so I won't be focusing much on other identities in detail because I feel that might be pointless and only more confusing! Something I've seen argued in regards to choice when it comes to homosexuality (especially by religious people), is that while the inclination/attraction might be inborn, acting on it isn't. Which, I guess is... technically true? But I feel like that agrument completely disregards the humanity of people. What I mean is, it's easy to say "just don't act on it", but you'd have to disregard- either by choice or simply by ignorance- what that sort of repression does to a person. Never being romantically fulfilled your entirely life despite wanting to be sounds like a horrible way to live, does it not? The expectation of people who argue this is that either you live without romantic and sexual relationships completely, or that you force yourself into heterosexual ones; and both of those are inhumane and cruel things to suggest. . What I mean to portray with all this is that being gay, like any other queer identity, is not a choice, nor just a path one decides to take on a whim; and acting on those 'inclinations' simply means not repressing oneself and existing in a healthy manner! Suggesting otherwise leads to some cruel viewpoints and ideas, that would strip queer people of their humanity and rights to self-actualization. . Circling back to what you said, you not wanting to "choose the path", as you put it, is just like this! If you're straight, and cisgender, and everything outside the queer umbrella, that is also not a choice, that is just you, and how you are! :) Many people are like that, in fact the majority of the population is! Edited at March 1, 2025 04:54 AM by Reprobate
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please stop reporting this topic as to controversial and not pg 13 guys its fine and its being watched very carefully so far theres been nothing said on either end of the spectrum that would warrnt me removing this post.
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I'd find it funny that my existance is considered controversial, if it weren't so sad, given the current state of the US.
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The Old Gods said: I'd find it funny that my existance is considered controversial, if it weren't so sad, given the current state of the US.
This is so so real. I've recently kind of realized that I'm bisexual and it seems like a horrible time to do so 🥲
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