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Ravenwood Farm
12:26:56 
I checked now and it seems like it, searching for silver perlino and silver smokey creme horses in game yields no results
Frog Judgment Acers
12:26:33 Dulcie/Crazy
I might do that in a few minutes but I'm going to run off & save my duolingo streak
Frog Judgment Acers
12:25:58 Dulcie/Crazy
Need to find a PrlPrl Zz/Zz & looky
Ravenwood Farm
12:23:35 
I'm not sure if it's right or not though
Frog Judgment Acers
12:22:36 Dulcie/Crazy
Double cream? I wasn't aware of that one
CWY country
12:21:07 C
Dulcie, I do believe silver only affects the color for black based coats, but I could be wrong.
Ravenwood Farm
12:20:23 
Dulcie, yes you are right chestnut bases hide silver. I think I recall something about double creme hiding it as well, but I'm very unsure if that's right or not
Frog Judgment Acers
12:19:30 Dulcie/Crazy
Don't mind my long drawn out explanation then
Frog Judgment Acers
12:17:41 Dulcie/Crazy
Capital letters mean the gene is present
There are 2 colors that need an absence of the gene
Red (ee) means no black is present
Pearl (pp) think of pearl as toner
Pegasus Lane
12:14:58 Peggy (or) Peg
Nope, had it mixed up with prl 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ Time for bed I guess
Pegasus Lane
12:14:01 Peggy (or) Peg
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure ZZ is no silver and zz is homo silver.
My memory is iffy though so don't quote me haha
Frog Judgment Acers
12:11:16 Dulcie/Crazy
Silver (Zz/ZZ) only shows on black base coats (Ee/EE) correct?
CWY country
11:48:10 C
Zz or ZZ means the horse has silver. zz means the horse doesn't have silver. Hope that makes a little more sense.
Golden Rose
11:48:02 Rose
Zz means the horse is carrying one copy of silver. One copy means the horse has a chance of passing silver onto their offspring. If the horse is ZZ, then it carries two copies and every foal they throw is guaranteed to be silver
CWY country
11:39:51 C
Fanta, it means that the horse is silver or if it isn't showing, its hiding silver.
Fantasy Horses
11:39:10 Fantasy | Fanta
In a genetic test, what does Zz for silver mean?
Blue Sky Equestrian
11:32:49 
take that nigel :p
KPH Equestrian
11:29:34 Rapcoon | Jester
*hidden away in a box

God I'm tired T-T
KPH Equestrian
11:29:10 Rapcoon | Jester
-YT Click-
All my old sketchbooks are in a hidden away for this exact reason 🫣
God is Mighty Stable
10:52:15 Willow ~ KNN Breeder
I'm heading to bed, goodnight

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Ravenwood Farm
12:26:56 
I checked now and it seems like it, searching for silver perlino and silver smokey creme horses in game yields no results
Frog Judgment Acers
12:26:33 Dulcie/Crazy
I might do that in a few minutes but I'm going to run off & save my duolingo streak
Frog Judgment Acers
12:25:58 Dulcie/Crazy
Need to find a PrlPrl Zz/Zz & looky
Ravenwood Farm
12:23:35 
I'm not sure if it's right or not though
Frog Judgment Acers
12:22:36 Dulcie/Crazy
Double cream? I wasn't aware of that one
CWY country
12:21:07 C
Dulcie, I do believe silver only affects the color for black based coats, but I could be wrong.
Ravenwood Farm
12:20:23 
Dulcie, yes you are right chestnut bases hide silver. I think I recall something about double creme hiding it as well, but I'm very unsure if that's right or not
Frog Judgment Acers
12:19:30 Dulcie/Crazy
Don't mind my long drawn out explanation then
Frog Judgment Acers
12:17:41 Dulcie/Crazy
Capital letters mean the gene is present
There are 2 colors that need an absence of the gene
Red (ee) means no black is present
Pearl (pp) think of pearl as toner
Pegasus Lane
12:14:58 Peggy (or) Peg
Nope, had it mixed up with prl 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ Time for bed I guess
Pegasus Lane
12:14:01 Peggy (or) Peg
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure ZZ is no silver and zz is homo silver.
My memory is iffy though so don't quote me haha
Frog Judgment Acers
12:11:16 Dulcie/Crazy
Silver (Zz/ZZ) only shows on black base coats (Ee/EE) correct?
CWY country
11:48:10 C
Zz or ZZ means the horse has silver. zz means the horse doesn't have silver. Hope that makes a little more sense.
Golden Rose
11:48:02 Rose
Zz means the horse is carrying one copy of silver. One copy means the horse has a chance of passing silver onto their offspring. If the horse is ZZ, then it carries two copies and every foal they throw is guaranteed to be silver
CWY country
11:39:51 C
Fanta, it means that the horse is silver or if it isn't showing, its hiding silver.
Fantasy Horses
11:39:10 Fantasy | Fanta
In a genetic test, what does Zz for silver mean?
Blue Sky Equestrian
11:32:49 
take that nigel :p
KPH Equestrian
11:29:34 Rapcoon | Jester
*hidden away in a box

God I'm tired T-T
KPH Equestrian
11:29:10 Rapcoon | Jester
-YT Click-
All my old sketchbooks are in a hidden away for this exact reason 🫣
God is Mighty Stable
10:52:15 Willow ~ KNN Breeder
I'm heading to bed, goodnight

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feet/hooves January 23, 2023 12:37 AM


Kiwi Mountains
 
Posts: 3211
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I struggle horrendously with hooves in almost all my pieces where hooves are touching the ground visably and besides the other things I could work on these hooves are supidly annoying I try and try and still seem to be getting no better at it. Just though I'd come and ask if anyone has any tips on how to help me out a little. Or ever to ask if I am over exaggerating this.
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feet/hooves January 23, 2023 03:23 AM


SilverFern Stables
 
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I am by no means a hoof master - but I think I may be able to provide some tips!

I certainly don't think you're hooves are too bad, but personally there are a few things I would do differently. Personally I like less smudged hooves, as I go for a less painted look with my horses. I generally try to preserve as much as the original hooves on the stock as possible, then I use the clone tool to fill them out and create the proper shape/cover up any grass etc. When I do it I always try and preserve the natural colour changes and even grain in the image, so I tend to use a size 7ish brush and clone from areas directly above/below etc but in separate 'dots' if that makes sense , ie I don't drag the brush. For me that stops the hooves from becoming overly muddy in colour and preserves their natural grain and colour. It's only after I get the shape right doing this method that I do any smudging - which for me is pretty minimal as I go for more realistic look and the details on the hoof are quite delicate. That is just my personal method though, and I tend to se stock that has at least one visible hoof so that I can reuse its texture if I need to repaint the others.

In terms of grounding, I think you've done quite well with the last two, especially the left side of the green image. I would suggest trying out putting a darker, more localized shadow directly beneath a hoof that's on the ground in addition to the rest of the shadows, as I find this helps especially when there isn't much grass etc covering the hoof (ie the first image). What I would also be inclined to do would be to lightly darken the bottom of the hooves themselves that are on the ground, especially if there is grass or sand as this can create a slight shadow.

Here is a quick breakdown of nit-picky things I would do differently on each of the pieces - but don't take these as gospel, but my preference!

1. The main thing that sticks out is the colour, while you don't want super dark hooves with white socks, I'd stay away from going too pink - aim for a more grey/white/even yellowish colour such as with the last image. I'd have a go at adding an extra dark shadow right under the hoof as well, and darken the hoof bottom. I'd also say the closer front hoof is a tad too long but that's very pedantic lol

2. The colour works a lot better here, I would just try to darken the hooves around where the sand sits in fort to show some shadow/blend it better. Again this is pedantic, but I feel the front hoof on the ground should have a more angled left side so that it comes out a bit more to the side - try following the angle/line of the pastern downwards to the ground.

3. The grounding is really nice with the grass and I like the less smudged (lighter) front hoof. My only hang up would be the darker front hoof, it looks a bit blocky so I would erase more of it so it looks like more grass is covering it. I would also consider making it lighter so it better matches the other hooves.

4. I think this one fits really nicely with your art style - the hooves don't feel overly smudged or totally one colour, but are also in a similar painted style to the horses body. The only thing I'd try would be darkening the hoof on the ground just above were the sand covers it to add a bit of shadow.

Overall I think you are doing great! These are just my preferences and I find that no horse stock can be treated the same, you just have to play around and try different things - so don't get discouraged. I apologies for the essay lol, It may not even be the sort of feedback you wanted, but I clearly quite like my hooves! Hopefully this all makes sense, feel free to PM me if you ever need help!

feet/hooves January 23, 2023 03:37 AM


Kiwi Mountains
 
Posts: 3211
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SilverFern Stables said:

I am by no means a hoof master - but I think I may be able to provide some tips!

I certainly don't think you're hooves are too bad, but personally there are a few things I would do differently. Personally I like less smudged hooves, as I go for a less painted look with my horses. I generally try to preserve as much as the original hooves on the stock as possible, then I use the clone tool to fill them out and create the proper shape/cover up any grass etc. When I do it I always try and preserve the natural colour changes and even grain in the image, so I tend to use a size 7ish brush and clone from areas directly above/below etc but in separate 'dots' if that makes sense , ie I don't drag the brush. For me that stops the hooves from becoming overly muddy in colour and preserves their natural grain and colour. It's only after I get the shape right doing this method that I do any smudging - which for me is pretty minimal as I go for more realistic look and the details on the hoof are quite delicate. That is just my personal method though, and I tend to se stock that has at least one visible hoof so that I can reuse its texture if I need to repaint the others.

In terms of grounding, I think you've done quite well with the last two, especially the left side of the green image. I would suggest trying out putting a darker, more localized shadow directly beneath a hoof that's on the ground in addition to the rest of the shadows, as I find this helps especially when there isn't much grass etc covering the hoof (ie the first image). What I would also be inclined to do would be to lightly darken the bottom of the hooves themselves that are on the ground, especially if there is grass or sand as this can create a slight shadow.

Here is a quick breakdown of nit-picky things I would do differently on each of the pieces - but don't take these as gospel, but my preference!

1. The main thing that sticks out is the colour, while you don't want super dark hooves with white socks, I'd stay away from going too pink - aim for a more grey/white/even yellowish colour such as with the last image. I'd have a go at adding an extra dark shadow right under the hoof as well, and darken the hoof bottom. I'd also say the closer front hoof is a tad too long but that's very pedantic lol

2. The colour works a lot better here, I would just try to darken the hooves around where the sand sits in fort to show some shadow/blend it better. Again this is pedantic, but I feel the front hoof on the ground should have a more angled left side so that it comes out a bit more to the side - try following the angle/line of the pastern downwards to the ground.

3. The grounding is really nice with the grass and I like the less smudged (lighter) front hoof. My only hang up would be the darker front hoof, it looks a bit blocky so I would erase more of it so it looks like more grass is covering it. I would also consider making it lighter so it better matches the other hooves.

4. I think this one fits really nicely with your art style - the hooves don't feel overly smudged or totally one colour, but are also in a similar painted style to the horses body. The only thing I'd try would be darkening the hoof on the ground just above were the sand covers it to add a bit of shadow.

Overall I think you are doing great! These are just my preferences and I find that no horse stock can be treated the same, you just have to play around and try different things - so don't get discouraged. I apologies for the essay lol, It may not even be the sort of feedback you wanted, but I clearly quite like my hooves! Hopefully this all makes sense, feel free to PM me if you ever need help!



thanks a lot! ^^

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