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My fingers are crossed for you! I hope she's nice to
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I'm excited for this I'm using a blue glass on this pair
ShiningStar Stables
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Trish
I'm very nervous to breed her 😬
I will be svenning her as my first match so hopefully she is nice
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I forgot shes 3 next year i cant wait to see how they do
Sunni
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The match looks really good, and hopefully the cost will be colorful. I am excited for you XD
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Sunni
That's kind of what I was thinking
The match looks solid plus it has the chance for frame and tobi
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Star I think it's worth the gamble
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Geek if it helps you cope, losing someone is all ways painful.
It takes time to heal, and drawing is a good coping mechanism.
Am sorry for your loss, but I all ways tell myself.
It was an honor to know them, and be their friend.
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Cove the sleep is coming for you, haha
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Sunni
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She loved cuddling in my arm, but my hand is numb.
Glacier Bay Cove
12:03:18 Arctic Katz
I feel for you, Geek. What did your puppy look like
Sunni
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Help I am trapped by a cat.
Moonrose Magic
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I like the sort of melted caramel brindle look
Moonrose Magic
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Brindle can't be bred for, breeding 2 brindle together gives like 0.01% more probability or so, otherwise its absolute luck
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Morning Glory Farms
12:23:52 Terici/Dino/Trish
My fingers are crossed for you! I hope she's nice to
Valhalla Acreage
12:21:12 Eivor
-HEE Click-
I'm excited for this I'm using a blue glass on this pair
ShiningStar Stables
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Trish
I'm very nervous to breed her 😬
I will be svenning her as my first match so hopefully she is nice
Morning Glory Farms
12:13:53 Terici/Dino/Trish
I forgot shes 3 next year i cant wait to see how they do
Sunni
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The match looks really good, and hopefully the cost will be colorful. I am excited for you XD
ShiningStar Stables
12:11:59 Chey / Star
Sunni
That's kind of what I was thinking
The match looks solid plus it has the chance for frame and tobi
Sunni
12:09:56 Sunni bunny
Star I think it's worth the gamble
ShiningStar Stables
12:08:49 Chey / Star
Do I risk throwing my maiden to a freshie?
-HEE Click-
Sunni
12:07:06 Sunni bunny
Geek if it helps you cope, losing someone is all ways painful.
It takes time to heal, and drawing is a good coping mechanism.
Am sorry for your loss, but I all ways tell myself.
It was an honor to know them, and be their friend.
Transformers Acres
12:04:58 Geek, Eek
I'm drawing my recently deceased puppy. I'm not fine
Sunni
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Cove the sleep is coming for you, haha
Glacier Bay Cove
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Oops I meant Geek
Glacier Bay Cove
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Send me a PM. I am falling asleep, Gerk
Sunni
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She loved cuddling in my arm, but my hand is numb.
Glacier Bay Cove
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I feel for you, Geek. What did your puppy look like
Sunni
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Help I am trapped by a cat.
Moonrose Magic
12:00:43 🎀 Diva
I like the sort of melted caramel brindle look
Moonrose Magic
11:59:28 🎀 Diva
Brindle can't be bred for, breeding 2 brindle together gives like 0.01% more probability or so, otherwise its absolute luck
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Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:21 PM


Eastwood Acres
 
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I'm not to good with genetics and just tested her. If someone can help I'd like to know if there's anything special or noteworthy about her genetics :) Thank you in advance!

Edited at February 25, 2024 04:21 PM by Eastwood Acres
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:27 PM


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Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:39 PM


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The Joker said:
Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!


Thank you so much! I appreciate it a lot :)
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 05:01 PM


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Eastwood Acres said:

The Joker said:
Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!


Thank you so much! I appreciate it a lot :)


Of course! Happy to help :) I believe the amber part of her colour is caused by her base colour of Ee which would usually be bay/brown, I may be incorrect though and it may be linked to the agouti gene instead
Genetic Help February 26, 2024 01:28 PM


Clear Springs
 
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Champagnes have weird color names.
Gold Champagne = Chestnut (ee ??) + Champagne gene
Amber Champagne = Bay (E?A?) + Champagne gene
Sable Champagne = Brown (E?At?) + Champagne gene
Classic Champagne = Black (E?aa)+ Champagne gene

So the "Amber" part of her color just means she would be a plain bay horse without the Champagne gene. She's E(black-based) A(agouti) plus Ch(Champagne). She also has that At gene in there which doesn't show on her, but means she could have a brown foal.

The Extension (E/e) gene just determines if a horse is black-based or red-based. If the horse has at least one E gene it's black-based, if ee it's red-based. All horse colors are one or the other with modifiers added for colors besides Black and Chestnut.

The Agouti (A/At/a) gene here is considered only active in black-based horses, so a horse that is red-based (ee) won't express it no matter what alleles are present. What it does is restrict where on the horse black pigment is fully expressed. It limits actual black to the "points" of the horse and leaves the body lacking enough pigment to be truly black, so it's just sort of a faded black color (which appears red, but isn't). So a horse with E?A? is the full-on Agouti color we call "bay" with black points and reddish body. A horse with E?At? has more expression of pigment on the body, has brown "highlights" on the nose, flank, etc and black points and is called "brown". A horse with E?aa is black all over with no restriction from the Agouti gene.

So now we have what E/e and A/At/a are and what they mean to horse colors, you can take all those and apply the modifiers like the white-spotting patterns (Tobiano, Sabino, Frame), Roan, Dun, etc and add in that Champagne has those weird names and so does Cream(CcrC) (Chestnut + Cream = Palomino, Bay + Cream = Buckskin, Brown + Cream = Brown Buckskin, Black + Cream = Smoky Black) and Double Cream(CcrCcr) (Chestnut = Cremello, Bay/Brown = Perlino, Black = Smoky Cream).

Most of the genes here are dominantly-expressed (the capital letter means the horse has that trait), but Pearl is recessive (a horse must have prlprl to be Pearl) and Agouti has 3 alleles, where A overrides the other two, At only overrides a and aa means "non-Agouti).

Hope that helps some people who are still a bit confused. Variable color names don't help. It's like the gene that's called merle in every other dog breed is called dapple in dachshunds. You just have to learn the color names and roll with it.

Edited at February 26, 2024 02:06 PM by Clear Springs
Genetic Help February 26, 2024 10:38 PM


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Clear Springs said:
Champagnes have weird color names.
Gold Champagne = Chestnut (ee ??) + Champagne gene
Amber Champagne = Bay (E?A?) + Champagne gene
Sable Champagne = Brown (E?At?) + Champagne gene
Classic Champagne = Black (E?aa)+ Champagne gene

So the "Amber" part of her color just means she would be a plain bay horse without the Champagne gene. She's E(black-based) A(agouti) plus Ch(Champagne). She also has that At gene in there which doesn't show on her, but means she could have a brown foal.

The Extension (E/e) gene just determines if a horse is black-based or red-based. If the horse has at least one E gene it's black-based, if ee it's red-based. All horse colors are one or the other with modifiers added for colors besides Black and Chestnut.

The Agouti (A/At/a) gene here is considered only active in black-based horses, so a horse that is red-based (ee) won't express it no matter what alleles are present. What it does is restrict where on the horse black pigment is fully expressed. It limits actual black to the "points" of the horse and leaves the body lacking enough pigment to be truly black, so it's just sort of a faded black color (which appears red, but isn't). So a horse with E?A? is the full-on Agouti color we call "bay" with black points and reddish body. A horse with E?At? has more expression of pigment on the body, has brown "highlights" on the nose, flank, etc and black points and is called "brown". A horse with E?aa is black all over with no restriction from the Agouti gene.

So now we have what E/e and A/At/a are and what they mean to horse colors, you can take all those and apply the modifiers like the white-spotting patterns (Tobiano, Sabino, Frame), Roan, Dun, etc and add in that Champagne has those weird names and so does Cream(CcrC) (Chestnut + Cream = Palomino, Bay + Cream = Buckskin, Brown + Cream = Brown Buckskin, Black + Cream = Smoky Black) and Double Cream(CcrCcr) (Chestnut = Cremello, Bay/Brown = Perlino, Black = Smoky Cream).

Most of the genes here are dominantly-expressed (the capital letter means the horse has that trait), but Pearl is recessive (a horse must have prlprl to be Pearl) and Agouti has 3 alleles, where A overrides the other two, At only overrides a and aa means "non-Agouti).

Hope that helps some people who are still a bit confused. Variable color names don't help. It's like the gene that's called merle in every other dog breed is called dapple in dachshunds. You just have to learn the color names and roll with it.


Thank you!

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