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Crestwood Eq.
05:04:36 Ivy / poison ivy
gem

now how did that happen ?? XD
Glacier Bay Cove
05:04:21 Arctic Katz
I ended up skipping that quest, Gem
Crestwood Eq.
05:03:51 Ivy / poison ivy
Snow

true! Dual hard work. doing schoolwork right now too xD
Gem Queens Estate
05:03:34 Snow❆Gem
Breed a triple Premium Pearl horse (ee Prlprl CcrC)

SWE x ESS = PEE? lol

-HEE Click-
Gem Queens Estate
05:02:47 Snow❆Gem
@ivy

Its called working hard. lol
Crestwood Eq.
05:01:03 Ivy / poison ivy
gem

like fanta said though. it's slow xD
Gem Queens Estate
05:00:41 Snow❆Gem
@ivy

OK. :)
Crestwood Eq.
04:59:36 Ivy / poison ivy
snow

and i'm in a pinch
Gem Queens Estate
04:59:15 Snow❆Gem
@ivy

Yup, that works in a pinch. :D
Crestwood Eq.
04:56:06 Ivy / poison ivy
Fanta

yep
Crestwood Eq.
04:55:57 Ivy / poison ivy
it's a profit sooooo xD
Fantasy Horses
04:55:30 Fantasy | Fanta
Ivy
It is a slow but rewarding process, that I can tell you :P
Crestwood Eq.
04:53:50 Ivy / poison ivy
buying cheap 2 year olds with bad ratings and FRing
Fantasy Horses
04:53:04 Fantasy | Fanta
Ivy
Feel like sharing? :3
Crestwood Eq.
04:51:13 Ivy / poison ivy
omg. i have a great idea for money making...
Gem Queens Estate
04:50:51 Snow❆Gem
@ivy

Ah yes. Everything comes and goes. I have pretty 'keepers' that I'll end up FRing becuase they don't show well or I need room.
Crestwood Eq.
04:50:00 Ivy / poison ivy
no i cant T-T. she stays xD
Crestwood Eq.
04:48:52 Ivy / poison ivy
Sad to see her go as she was one of my first horses here but she's not doing well 😥 -HEE Click-
Gem Queens Estate
04:48:12 Snow❆Gem
@ivy

;P
Crestwood Eq.
04:45:49 Ivy / poison ivy
snow

real

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Crestwood Eq.
05:04:36 Ivy / poison ivy
gem

now how did that happen ?? XD
Glacier Bay Cove
05:04:21 Arctic Katz
I ended up skipping that quest, Gem
Crestwood Eq.
05:03:51 Ivy / poison ivy
Snow

true! Dual hard work. doing schoolwork right now too xD
Gem Queens Estate
05:03:34 Snow❆Gem
Breed a triple Premium Pearl horse (ee Prlprl CcrC)

SWE x ESS = PEE? lol

-HEE Click-
Gem Queens Estate
05:02:47 Snow❆Gem
@ivy

Its called working hard. lol
Crestwood Eq.
05:01:03 Ivy / poison ivy
gem

like fanta said though. it's slow xD
Gem Queens Estate
05:00:41 Snow❆Gem
@ivy

OK. :)
Crestwood Eq.
04:59:36 Ivy / poison ivy
snow

and i'm in a pinch
Gem Queens Estate
04:59:15 Snow❆Gem
@ivy

Yup, that works in a pinch. :D
Crestwood Eq.
04:56:06 Ivy / poison ivy
Fanta

yep
Crestwood Eq.
04:55:57 Ivy / poison ivy
it's a profit sooooo xD
Fantasy Horses
04:55:30 Fantasy | Fanta
Ivy
It is a slow but rewarding process, that I can tell you :P
Crestwood Eq.
04:53:50 Ivy / poison ivy
buying cheap 2 year olds with bad ratings and FRing
Fantasy Horses
04:53:04 Fantasy | Fanta
Ivy
Feel like sharing? :3
Crestwood Eq.
04:51:13 Ivy / poison ivy
omg. i have a great idea for money making...
Gem Queens Estate
04:50:51 Snow❆Gem
@ivy

Ah yes. Everything comes and goes. I have pretty 'keepers' that I'll end up FRing becuase they don't show well or I need room.
Crestwood Eq.
04:50:00 Ivy / poison ivy
no i cant T-T. she stays xD
Crestwood Eq.
04:48:52 Ivy / poison ivy
Sad to see her go as she was one of my first horses here but she's not doing well 😥 -HEE Click-
Gem Queens Estate
04:48:12 Snow❆Gem
@ivy

;P
Crestwood Eq.
04:45:49 Ivy / poison ivy
snow

real

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Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:21 PM


Eastwood Acres
 
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I'm not to good with genetics and just tested her. If someone can help I'd like to know if there's anything special or noteworthy about her genetics :) Thank you in advance!

Edited at February 25, 2024 04:21 PM by Eastwood Acres
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:27 PM


The Joker

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Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:39 PM


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The Joker said:
Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!


Thank you so much! I appreciate it a lot :)
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 05:01 PM


The Joker

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Eastwood Acres said:

The Joker said:
Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!


Thank you so much! I appreciate it a lot :)


Of course! Happy to help :) I believe the amber part of her colour is caused by her base colour of Ee which would usually be bay/brown, I may be incorrect though and it may be linked to the agouti gene instead
Genetic Help February 26, 2024 01:28 PM


Clear Springs
 
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Champagnes have weird color names.
Gold Champagne = Chestnut (ee ??) + Champagne gene
Amber Champagne = Bay (E?A?) + Champagne gene
Sable Champagne = Brown (E?At?) + Champagne gene
Classic Champagne = Black (E?aa)+ Champagne gene

So the "Amber" part of her color just means she would be a plain bay horse without the Champagne gene. She's E(black-based) A(agouti) plus Ch(Champagne). She also has that At gene in there which doesn't show on her, but means she could have a brown foal.

The Extension (E/e) gene just determines if a horse is black-based or red-based. If the horse has at least one E gene it's black-based, if ee it's red-based. All horse colors are one or the other with modifiers added for colors besides Black and Chestnut.

The Agouti (A/At/a) gene here is considered only active in black-based horses, so a horse that is red-based (ee) won't express it no matter what alleles are present. What it does is restrict where on the horse black pigment is fully expressed. It limits actual black to the "points" of the horse and leaves the body lacking enough pigment to be truly black, so it's just sort of a faded black color (which appears red, but isn't). So a horse with E?A? is the full-on Agouti color we call "bay" with black points and reddish body. A horse with E?At? has more expression of pigment on the body, has brown "highlights" on the nose, flank, etc and black points and is called "brown". A horse with E?aa is black all over with no restriction from the Agouti gene.

So now we have what E/e and A/At/a are and what they mean to horse colors, you can take all those and apply the modifiers like the white-spotting patterns (Tobiano, Sabino, Frame), Roan, Dun, etc and add in that Champagne has those weird names and so does Cream(CcrC) (Chestnut + Cream = Palomino, Bay + Cream = Buckskin, Brown + Cream = Brown Buckskin, Black + Cream = Smoky Black) and Double Cream(CcrCcr) (Chestnut = Cremello, Bay/Brown = Perlino, Black = Smoky Cream).

Most of the genes here are dominantly-expressed (the capital letter means the horse has that trait), but Pearl is recessive (a horse must have prlprl to be Pearl) and Agouti has 3 alleles, where A overrides the other two, At only overrides a and aa means "non-Agouti).

Hope that helps some people who are still a bit confused. Variable color names don't help. It's like the gene that's called merle in every other dog breed is called dapple in dachshunds. You just have to learn the color names and roll with it.

Edited at February 26, 2024 02:06 PM by Clear Springs
Genetic Help February 26, 2024 10:38 PM


Eastwood Acres
 
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Clear Springs said:
Champagnes have weird color names.
Gold Champagne = Chestnut (ee ??) + Champagne gene
Amber Champagne = Bay (E?A?) + Champagne gene
Sable Champagne = Brown (E?At?) + Champagne gene
Classic Champagne = Black (E?aa)+ Champagne gene

So the "Amber" part of her color just means she would be a plain bay horse without the Champagne gene. She's E(black-based) A(agouti) plus Ch(Champagne). She also has that At gene in there which doesn't show on her, but means she could have a brown foal.

The Extension (E/e) gene just determines if a horse is black-based or red-based. If the horse has at least one E gene it's black-based, if ee it's red-based. All horse colors are one or the other with modifiers added for colors besides Black and Chestnut.

The Agouti (A/At/a) gene here is considered only active in black-based horses, so a horse that is red-based (ee) won't express it no matter what alleles are present. What it does is restrict where on the horse black pigment is fully expressed. It limits actual black to the "points" of the horse and leaves the body lacking enough pigment to be truly black, so it's just sort of a faded black color (which appears red, but isn't). So a horse with E?A? is the full-on Agouti color we call "bay" with black points and reddish body. A horse with E?At? has more expression of pigment on the body, has brown "highlights" on the nose, flank, etc and black points and is called "brown". A horse with E?aa is black all over with no restriction from the Agouti gene.

So now we have what E/e and A/At/a are and what they mean to horse colors, you can take all those and apply the modifiers like the white-spotting patterns (Tobiano, Sabino, Frame), Roan, Dun, etc and add in that Champagne has those weird names and so does Cream(CcrC) (Chestnut + Cream = Palomino, Bay + Cream = Buckskin, Brown + Cream = Brown Buckskin, Black + Cream = Smoky Black) and Double Cream(CcrCcr) (Chestnut = Cremello, Bay/Brown = Perlino, Black = Smoky Cream).

Most of the genes here are dominantly-expressed (the capital letter means the horse has that trait), but Pearl is recessive (a horse must have prlprl to be Pearl) and Agouti has 3 alleles, where A overrides the other two, At only overrides a and aa means "non-Agouti).

Hope that helps some people who are still a bit confused. Variable color names don't help. It's like the gene that's called merle in every other dog breed is called dapple in dachshunds. You just have to learn the color names and roll with it.


Thank you!

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