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how can i get on the breeders lb for sh/ish? am i missing something? |
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You want to know, how the leaderboards work?
The leaderboards are determined by 75% from the horse itselves and 25% from the descendents that are still "alive" in the game.
Freshman stallions (age 3) need to have 10 foals bred from them to make it on the leaderboard, 1 of those needs to be bred by live cover. Returning stallions (over age 3) just need to have bred a minimum of 1 live cover foal each game year to keep themselves on the leaderboard. Mares need to have at least 3 foals, no matter if they are still in the game or not to get on the boards.
Stallions LB is deleted every gameyear´s reroll and built up new in the next few days after the studs got used. Mares LB never gets deleted. All horses at the age of 18+ vanish from the boards as they dont have live covers available any more.
Single discipline LBs only look at the traits, that are important for this discipline. So e.g. an WAA stallion can be high on the Dressage LB - but will never show up on the Eventing LBs.
When a horse is created, it gets "points" - but they never show up for us players. They are the basics to determine the rating of a horse. So if a horse has more of these "points" by itselves, it is higher on the boards than one with less "points". And if the foals from this horse have a lot of these "points" they would count up for the LBs, too. This is why some users want to get foals with poor ratings deleted from the game, to push their horse up on the LBs. But if a stud is quite weak and did not make it to the freshman LBs, he would hardly ever manage to get on the LB any more.
These "points" and the LB status are NOT a marker, if the horse is a good producer or not!
To determine a good producer you will have to take a close look at all foals of a horse and the foals´ pedigrees.
Low ratings in a pedigree ( e.g. a visible S rating ) do [b]not[/b] have any influence on the possibilies of a horse as a good-foal-producer, too!
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Kuewi knn stable said:
You want to know, how the leaderboards work?
The leaderboards are determined by 75% from the horse itselves and 25% from the descendents that are still "alive" in the game.
Freshman stallions (age 3) need to have 10 foals bred from them to make it on the leaderboard, 1 of those needs to be bred by live cover. Returning stallions (over age 3) just need to have bred a minimum of 1 live cover foal each game year to keep themselves on the leaderboard. Mares need to have at least 3 foals, no matter if they are still in the game or not to get on the boards.
Stallions LB is deleted every gameyear´s reroll and built up new in the next few days after the studs got used. Mares LB never gets deleted. All horses at the age of 18+ vanish from the boards as they dont have live covers available any more.
Single discipline LBs only look at the traits, that are important for this discipline. So e.g. an WAA stallion can be high on the Dressage LB - but will never show up on the Eventing LBs.
When a horse is created, it gets "points" - but they never show up for us players. They are the basics to determine the rating of a horse. So if a horse has more of these "points" by itselves, it is higher on the boards than one with less "points". And if the foals from this horse have a lot of these "points" they would count up for the LBs, too. This is why some users want to get foals with poor ratings deleted from the game, to push their horse up on the LBs. But if a stud is quite weak and did not make it to the freshman LBs, he would hardly ever manage to get on the LB any more.
These "points" and the LB status are NOT a marker, if the horse is a good producer or not!
To determine a good producer you will have to take a close look at all foals of a horse and the foals´ pedigrees.
Low ratings in a pedigree ( e.g. a visible S rating ) do [b]not[/b] have any influence on the possibilies of a horse as a good-foal-producer, too!
If this isnt a guide im gonna turn it into one |
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i am trying to get on the breeders lb, i know how to get my horses on their lbs just not my stable onto the breeder lb for ish/sh |
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The breeders LBs are all kinds of screwy. It's a well known fact that nobody really knows how to get on them. You'll find that some of the top stables haven't bred anything better than a PPP. I wouldn't suggest making an effort to get on them, because they're that messed up. You could breed 100 WWW's, and still get beat out by a stable breeding PPP's. For example, the current top ISH breeder has bred 10 EEE's, and absolutely nothing higher than that. The second place stable has bred 2 WW combos, 9 W combos, and 34 EEE's. There is zero rhyme or reason to those boards. |
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thank you
Silent Grove said:
The breeders LBs are all kinds of screwy. It's a well known fact that nobody really knows how to get on them. You'll find that some of the top stables haven't bred anything better than a PPP. I wouldn't suggest making an effort to get on them, because they're that messed up. You could breed 100 WWW's, and still get beat out by a stable breeding PPP's. For example, the current top ISH breeder has bred 10 EEE's, and absolutely nothing higher than that. The second place stable has bred 2 WW combos, 9 W combos, and 34 EEE's. There is zero rhyme or reason to those boards.
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There is actually a lot of rhyme and reason to the breeding LBs, but it's not common knowledge how they work. First of all, they are a yearly thing, like all the other awards, so they only take into account foals bred that year, which is why stables jump around on them so much from year to year. Also I remember a mod (maybe Cora or Kuewi?) saying that you have to breed at least 100 horses of the breed in that year to be eligible for the LB, which is why stables can randomly drop off. If you breed 100+ foals, the ratings of all the foals you keep are averaged out in order to determine where you fall on the LB. So while those are the total highest offspring from the top two ISH breeders, this year the top breeder has kept 1 EEE, 3 PEE, and 6 PPP-PEP, while the second highest has kept 3 EEE and 18 PPP-PEP. It's logical that even if you breed a greater number of EEE+ horses, if you keep more horses that are below that, your average will be lower. Also remember that not all ratings are created equally. I took a look at the top 10 ISH breeders, and it mostly looks how you'd expect based on ratings averaging out, but there are 1 or 2 outliers. They may in fact have a bunch of weak W combos or EEEs that cause their average to fall more easily when they keep a few PPPs. |
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okay, so say i do breed 100 ish, do i have to keep all 100 to be on the lb? can i fr them all and still hit lb?
Eyrie of the Stars said:
There is actually a lot of rhyme and reason to the breeding LBs, but it's not common knowledge how they work. First of all, they are a yearly thing, like all the other awards, so they only take into account foals bred that year, which is why stables jump around on them so much from year to year. Also I remember a mod (maybe Cora or Kuewi?) saying that you have to breed at least 100 horses of the breed in that year to be eligible for the LB, which is why stables can randomly drop off. If you breed 100+ foals, the ratings of all the foals you keep are averaged out in order to determine where you fall on the LB. So while those are the total highest offspring from the top two ISH breeders, this year the top breeder has kept 1 EEE, 3 PEE, and 6 PPP-PEP, while the second highest has kept 3 EEE and 18 PPP-PEP. It's logical that even if you breed a greater number of EEE+ horses, if you keep more horses that are below that, your average will be lower. Also remember that not all ratings are created equally. I took a look at the top 10 ISH breeders, and it mostly looks how you'd expect based on ratings averaging out, but there are 1 or 2 outliers. They may in fact have a bunch of weak W combos or EEEs that cause their average to fall more easily when they keep a few PPPs.
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