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Hummingbird Meadows
11:49:06 Bird
@Bug, now that would be fun to see! XD
Hummingbird Meadows
11:48:08 Bird
@Dusty, at least she was drunk. These guys just had small egos and felt like they had to tell someone what to do.
Savannah Stables
11:47:28 Dusty
hummer that's just like so weird what do they expect to happen
Bug in a Rug
11:46:54 Bug | Flea | KPH
omg hummer 😭I have a feeling they'd get their asses handed to them if the roles were reversed lmao
Savannah Stables
11:46:44 Dusty
i went to a musical festival and lost my absolutely wasted aunt cause she was trying to convince a security guard to let my 80 year old great aunt backstage to meet the singer cause she met him in 1979
Hummingbird Meadows
11:46:16 Bird
@Dusty, yup
Hummingbird Meadows
11:46:08 Bird
*they know what they are doing and didn't need help from 3 strangers screaming
Savannah Stables
11:45:50 Dusty
wait just like random guys hummer? 😭
Hummingbird Meadows
11:44:47 Bird
I went to a rodeo tonight and they had a team penning event. 3 guys game close to the fence and were screaming at all the teams telling them what to do. I think they know what you are doing and your screaming was only disturbing everyone. 😡
gone with the wind
11:39:11 
-HEE Click- he seems to have the best training out of my stud colt prospects.
Alpine Acres
11:38:10 Lily
Thank you Eve, got it!
Cadence Farms
11:37:38 evebot
Lily, it's in the barn/pasture Explore view.
gone with the wind
11:36:36 
😅 sorry, im more partial to red duns. grullos are pretty too but i like my red duns and roans
Cadence Farms
11:35:18 evebot
And he's not ugly. Can you imagine owning a horse that pretty irl.
Alpine Acres
11:34:09 Lily
how do you change your explore settings so that only certain horses show up on the list?
Cadence Farms
11:34:08 evebot
He will be a good show gelding.
gone with the wind
11:34:04 
alrighty, show gelding it is, hes ugly anyway XD
KPH Equestrian
11:33:13 Rapcoon | Jester
nah his training is average
gone with the wind
11:32:40 
unless you can help with seeing if his training is good enough that i can undo it, i dont want opinions please
gone with the wind
11:31:41 
he was put up for sale as a stallion. i gelded him after the fact, and i was going to take him down to use as a show gelding.

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Hummingbird Meadows
11:49:06 Bird
@Bug, now that would be fun to see! XD
Hummingbird Meadows
11:48:08 Bird
@Dusty, at least she was drunk. These guys just had small egos and felt like they had to tell someone what to do.
Savannah Stables
11:47:28 Dusty
hummer that's just like so weird what do they expect to happen
Bug in a Rug
11:46:54 Bug | Flea | KPH
omg hummer 😭I have a feeling they'd get their asses handed to them if the roles were reversed lmao
Savannah Stables
11:46:44 Dusty
i went to a musical festival and lost my absolutely wasted aunt cause she was trying to convince a security guard to let my 80 year old great aunt backstage to meet the singer cause she met him in 1979
Hummingbird Meadows
11:46:16 Bird
@Dusty, yup
Hummingbird Meadows
11:46:08 Bird
*they know what they are doing and didn't need help from 3 strangers screaming
Savannah Stables
11:45:50 Dusty
wait just like random guys hummer? 😭
Hummingbird Meadows
11:44:47 Bird
I went to a rodeo tonight and they had a team penning event. 3 guys game close to the fence and were screaming at all the teams telling them what to do. I think they know what you are doing and your screaming was only disturbing everyone. 😡
gone with the wind
11:39:11 
-HEE Click- he seems to have the best training out of my stud colt prospects.
Alpine Acres
11:38:10 Lily
Thank you Eve, got it!
Cadence Farms
11:37:38 evebot
Lily, it's in the barn/pasture Explore view.
gone with the wind
11:36:36 
😅 sorry, im more partial to red duns. grullos are pretty too but i like my red duns and roans
Cadence Farms
11:35:18 evebot
And he's not ugly. Can you imagine owning a horse that pretty irl.
Alpine Acres
11:34:09 Lily
how do you change your explore settings so that only certain horses show up on the list?
Cadence Farms
11:34:08 evebot
He will be a good show gelding.
gone with the wind
11:34:04 
alrighty, show gelding it is, hes ugly anyway XD
KPH Equestrian
11:33:13 Rapcoon | Jester
nah his training is average
gone with the wind
11:32:40 
unless you can help with seeing if his training is good enough that i can undo it, i dont want opinions please
gone with the wind
11:31:41 
he was put up for sale as a stallion. i gelded him after the fact, and i was going to take him down to use as a show gelding.

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Stifle OCD November 2, 2024 08:48 PM


Blue Moon Breeding
 
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Hey everyone! My 5yr old thoroughbred gelding, who I bought a year ago with the intention of doing the jumpers, is having problems in his right stifle. A bit of background... we spent a few thousand on an extremely thorough PPE when I got him November 2023, including flexions and xrays of his stifles, knees, fetlocks, back, hocks, and feet, a neuro exam, and a general overall exam. We did not know the vet but were told by the owners that they were great and had never seen my horse before aside from routine vaccines. We bought him from a place 12 hours away so did not know anyone else in the area.
He raced 3 times total, once at 2yrs and twice at 3 yrs old. His owners then retrained him and had him jumping 3ft in his late 3yr old year (I know, way too young). I bought him just before he turned 5. I restarted him all the way at the basics because he lacked flatwork and was overall a very difficult ride. I only jumped him a max of 18 inches, maybe 4 times. He is UTD on all chiro/farrier work and has seen the vet multiple times for the injury I will detail below. He was wearing hind shoes but is now barefoot.

In March 2024, he hairline fractured his knee by kicking his stall door. It healed great and he was never lame on it, never needed stall rest - we did the full rehab.
In May 2024, a week after starting walk/trot work, he had a freak paddock accident and tore his lateral collateral ligament in his right stifle. We did not do xrays at the original appointment since meniscal damage would not be visible until a few weeks after the injury; we assumed stifle sprain until the 3rd appointment, where we did xrays and found the damage. We put him on stall rest and he improved significantly in a month. At the 2nd appt, he was only 1.8/5 lame. After another month of stall rest, he hadn't improved at all from that point. The vet did xrays and found the torn LCL ligament. He injected his stifle and said that if there was no improvement, there was likely meniscal or cruciate ligament damage as well. We did laser therapy and Bemer throughout his rehab.
However, when my vet did the xrays, we also found an OCD lesion which the vet who did the PPE did not pick up on (it is very clear on the xrays she did when you compare his right stifle to his left). Looking back on it, he always did show some signs of stifle discomfort on his back right leg, just in the sense that he would park out occasionally. He was never lame on it.
After months of rehab and no improvement from 1.8/5 lame, with his vets advice, we decided to retire him with hopes that maybe he will come back in a few months as a flat horse. Surgery was the best option but not feasible for us. He has been turned out to the paddock and he is doing incredibly well right now. He is barefoot and looks to be about 85% sound, but not in any discomfort at the walk. He is cantering around and playing so I don't think he is in any pain.

If you've made it this far... here's my question

Does anyone have experience with this type of injury? Has anyone had a horse be comfortable in the paddock even with an OCD lesion in their stifle?
I know that surgery would be the best option, but after pouring so much money into a young horse who I've had for a short time and was meant to be a performance horse, we have to put a stop on the budget at some point, and surgery is that point.

TIA!
Stifle OCD November 3, 2024 06:20 AM


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TBH the stifle "fragments" are probably from the injury not OCD as OCD is pretty rare in TBs, its a young horse thing as the bones that are supposed to fuse, dont, generally because of growing too quickly. If XRays were done prior to the injury, they would have been visible then.

The easiest thing to do is request the original XRays to confirm.

Regardless, OCD or injury, "floating" bone will always be problamatic. I've worked with a horse who had OCD surgery on her knee, prior to surgery she'd be on and off lame, swelling was present most of the time. After surgery (done when she was 2) she had full soundness recovery.

Stifle OCD November 3, 2024 07:01 AM


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Cappuccino said:

TBH the stifle "fragments" are probably from the injury not OCD as OCD is pretty rare in TBs, its a young horse thing as the bones that are supposed to fuse, dont, generally because of growing too quickly. If XRays were done prior to the injury, they would have been visible then.

The easiest thing to do is request the original XRays to confirm.

Regardless, OCD or injury, "floating" bone will always be problamatic. I've worked with a horse who had OCD surgery on her knee, prior to surgery she'd be on and off lame, swelling was present most of the time. After surgery (done when she was 2) she had full soundness recovery.



Thank you! It's actually an OCD lesion, not a bone chip. X-rays were done during the PPE which was prior to the injury, I have those xrays and the ones taken after the injury. My vet pointed out where the lesion is on both sets of xrays, I could see it right away after he told me. I'm glad your horse returned to soundness! :)
Stifle OCD November 3, 2024 07:14 AM


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Blue moon mountain said:

Cappuccino said:

TBH the stifle "fragments" are probably from the injury not OCD as OCD is pretty rare in TBs, its a young horse thing as the bones that are supposed to fuse, dont, generally because of growing too quickly. If XRays were done prior to the injury, they would have been visible then.

The easiest thing to do is request the original XRays to confirm.

Regardless, OCD or injury, "floating" bone will always be problamatic. I've worked with a horse who had OCD surgery on her knee, prior to surgery she'd be on and off lame, swelling was present most of the time. After surgery (done when she was 2) she had full soundness recovery.



Thank you! It's actually an OCD lesion, not a bone chip. X-rays were done during the PPE which was prior to the injury, I have those xrays and the ones taken after the injury. My vet pointed out where the lesion is on both sets of xrays, I could see it right away after he told me. I'm glad your horse returned to soundness! :)


If its noticeable on the XRay and the PPE vet didnt say anything you might have some legal grounds there. (just saying!)
Hope everything goes ok with your boy
Stifle OCD November 3, 2024 07:45 AM


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Cappuccino said:

Blue moon mountain said:

Cappuccino said:

TBH the stifle "fragments" are probably from the injury not OCD as OCD is pretty rare in TBs, its a young horse thing as the bones that are supposed to fuse, dont, generally because of growing too quickly. If XRays were done prior to the injury, they would have been visible then.

The easiest thing to do is request the original XRays to confirm.

Regardless, OCD or injury, "floating" bone will always be problamatic. I've worked with a horse who had OCD surgery on her knee, prior to surgery she'd be on and off lame, swelling was present most of the time. After surgery (done when she was 2) she had full soundness recovery.



Thank you! It's actually an OCD lesion, not a bone chip. X-rays were done during the PPE which was prior to the injury, I have those xrays and the ones taken after the injury. My vet pointed out where the lesion is on both sets of xrays, I could see it right away after he told me. I'm glad your horse returned to soundness! :)


If its noticeable on the XRay and the PPE vet didnt say anything you might have some legal grounds there. (just saying!)
Hope everything goes ok with your boy


Thank you, me too! I really appreciate your input :)
Stifle OCD November 3, 2024 06:08 PM


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I ride cutting horses and we have horses all the time with OCD lesions. All are still competing comfortably but are well managed with different therapies and injections. It isn't an end-all diagnosis.
Stifle OCD November 4, 2024 06:11 AM


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Ambrosia said:
I ride cutting horses and we have horses all the time with OCD lesions. All are still competing comfortably but are well managed with different therapies and injections. It isn't an end-all diagnosis.


That is great to hear! Thank you :)

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