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ShiningStar Stables
06:30:45 Chey / Star
You entered 619 horses into reg. shows for 608200.
I'm finally done entering shows for today :D
Galloping_Gems
06:12:18 Gemstone
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Oh my word, my most royal boy of my herd is actually royal with this back ground 😍
Barbury Estates
05:44:57 Amelia
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poll
Barbury Estates
05:35:24 Amelia
*could
Barbury Estates
05:31:40 Amelia
do you think I sell adoptables of those? Would it work?
Fantasy Horses
05:31:09 Fantasy | Fanta
Amelia
yes it does
Barbury Estates
05:30:48 Amelia
does the link work?
Meadowdown
05:30:47 
Sting -
The story of my life with trying to get WWW babies :'(
Narran Park
05:19:09 Sting
Well thats just rude.
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WWW/WWE
Fantasy Horses
05:19:03 Fantasy | Fanta
Sting
Haha, I like that nickname lol
Thanks!
Narran Park
05:17:34 Sting
Congrats Fanta! Thats great!
Fantasy Horses
05:17:33 Fantasy | Fanta
Sting
Oof that's painful
Narran Park
05:16:57 Sting
-HEE Click-
I mean...WWWxWWE and we are only up 1..
Fantasy Horses
05:16:15 Fantasy | Fanta
Sting
It went okay. I only had 2 matches for RO so only two horses with week 4s. Both colts, one had 3 up (ANGER) and the other...
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I love him even more now.
Narran Park
05:16:09 Sting
I am just going through them now. 1 EEE was up 5/6 so thats nice.
the RO gods didnt give me anything above an ewe last RO, so nothing too exciting here.
Angels angels
05:14:31 [1k+ brindles] Angel
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Oh and I really like this girl. She did decent enough
Angels angels
05:13:44 [1k+ brindles] Angel
Sting
Did yours do well?
I have like 2 others I want to keep that only went up 3 but I am going to see how their week 7s are before I decide
Angels angels
05:13:03 [1k+ brindles] Angel
Ooo nice chimmy
Barbury Estates
05:12:28 Amelia
-Click-
does that link work?
Sunni
05:12:27 Sunni bunny
-HEE Click-
O~O
I know this girl won't rate well but what is the chances of capturing a that.

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ShiningStar Stables
06:30:45 Chey / Star
You entered 619 horses into reg. shows for 608200.
I'm finally done entering shows for today :D
Galloping_Gems
06:12:18 Gemstone
-HEE Click-
Oh my word, my most royal boy of my herd is actually royal with this back ground 😍
Barbury Estates
05:44:57 Amelia
-HEE Click-
poll
Barbury Estates
05:35:24 Amelia
*could
Barbury Estates
05:31:40 Amelia
do you think I sell adoptables of those? Would it work?
Fantasy Horses
05:31:09 Fantasy | Fanta
Amelia
yes it does
Barbury Estates
05:30:48 Amelia
does the link work?
Meadowdown
05:30:47 
Sting -
The story of my life with trying to get WWW babies :'(
Narran Park
05:19:09 Sting
Well thats just rude.
-HEE Click-
WWW/WWE
Fantasy Horses
05:19:03 Fantasy | Fanta
Sting
Haha, I like that nickname lol
Thanks!
Narran Park
05:17:34 Sting
Congrats Fanta! Thats great!
Fantasy Horses
05:17:33 Fantasy | Fanta
Sting
Oof that's painful
Narran Park
05:16:57 Sting
-HEE Click-
I mean...WWWxWWE and we are only up 1..
Fantasy Horses
05:16:15 Fantasy | Fanta
Sting
It went okay. I only had 2 matches for RO so only two horses with week 4s. Both colts, one had 3 up (ANGER) and the other...
-HEE Click-
I love him even more now.
Narran Park
05:16:09 Sting
I am just going through them now. 1 EEE was up 5/6 so thats nice.
the RO gods didnt give me anything above an ewe last RO, so nothing too exciting here.
Angels angels
05:14:31 [1k+ brindles] Angel
-HEE Click-
Oh and I really like this girl. She did decent enough
Angels angels
05:13:44 [1k+ brindles] Angel
Sting
Did yours do well?
I have like 2 others I want to keep that only went up 3 but I am going to see how their week 7s are before I decide
Angels angels
05:13:03 [1k+ brindles] Angel
Ooo nice chimmy
Barbury Estates
05:12:28 Amelia
-Click-
does that link work?
Sunni
05:12:27 Sunni bunny
-HEE Click-
O~O
I know this girl won't rate well but what is the chances of capturing a that.

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Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:21 PM


Eastwood Acres
 
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I'm not to good with genetics and just tested her. If someone can help I'd like to know if there's anything special or noteworthy about her genetics :) Thank you in advance!

Edited at February 25, 2024 04:21 PM by Eastwood Acres
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:27 PM


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Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:39 PM


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The Joker said:
Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!


Thank you so much! I appreciate it a lot :)
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 05:01 PM


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Eastwood Acres said:

The Joker said:
Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!


Thank you so much! I appreciate it a lot :)


Of course! Happy to help :) I believe the amber part of her colour is caused by her base colour of Ee which would usually be bay/brown, I may be incorrect though and it may be linked to the agouti gene instead
Genetic Help February 26, 2024 01:28 PM


Clear Springs
 
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Champagnes have weird color names.
Gold Champagne = Chestnut (ee ??) + Champagne gene
Amber Champagne = Bay (E?A?) + Champagne gene
Sable Champagne = Brown (E?At?) + Champagne gene
Classic Champagne = Black (E?aa)+ Champagne gene

So the "Amber" part of her color just means she would be a plain bay horse without the Champagne gene. She's E(black-based) A(agouti) plus Ch(Champagne). She also has that At gene in there which doesn't show on her, but means she could have a brown foal.

The Extension (E/e) gene just determines if a horse is black-based or red-based. If the horse has at least one E gene it's black-based, if ee it's red-based. All horse colors are one or the other with modifiers added for colors besides Black and Chestnut.

The Agouti (A/At/a) gene here is considered only active in black-based horses, so a horse that is red-based (ee) won't express it no matter what alleles are present. What it does is restrict where on the horse black pigment is fully expressed. It limits actual black to the "points" of the horse and leaves the body lacking enough pigment to be truly black, so it's just sort of a faded black color (which appears red, but isn't). So a horse with E?A? is the full-on Agouti color we call "bay" with black points and reddish body. A horse with E?At? has more expression of pigment on the body, has brown "highlights" on the nose, flank, etc and black points and is called "brown". A horse with E?aa is black all over with no restriction from the Agouti gene.

So now we have what E/e and A/At/a are and what they mean to horse colors, you can take all those and apply the modifiers like the white-spotting patterns (Tobiano, Sabino, Frame), Roan, Dun, etc and add in that Champagne has those weird names and so does Cream(CcrC) (Chestnut + Cream = Palomino, Bay + Cream = Buckskin, Brown + Cream = Brown Buckskin, Black + Cream = Smoky Black) and Double Cream(CcrCcr) (Chestnut = Cremello, Bay/Brown = Perlino, Black = Smoky Cream).

Most of the genes here are dominantly-expressed (the capital letter means the horse has that trait), but Pearl is recessive (a horse must have prlprl to be Pearl) and Agouti has 3 alleles, where A overrides the other two, At only overrides a and aa means "non-Agouti).

Hope that helps some people who are still a bit confused. Variable color names don't help. It's like the gene that's called merle in every other dog breed is called dapple in dachshunds. You just have to learn the color names and roll with it.

Edited at February 26, 2024 02:06 PM by Clear Springs
Genetic Help February 26, 2024 10:38 PM


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Clear Springs said:
Champagnes have weird color names.
Gold Champagne = Chestnut (ee ??) + Champagne gene
Amber Champagne = Bay (E?A?) + Champagne gene
Sable Champagne = Brown (E?At?) + Champagne gene
Classic Champagne = Black (E?aa)+ Champagne gene

So the "Amber" part of her color just means she would be a plain bay horse without the Champagne gene. She's E(black-based) A(agouti) plus Ch(Champagne). She also has that At gene in there which doesn't show on her, but means she could have a brown foal.

The Extension (E/e) gene just determines if a horse is black-based or red-based. If the horse has at least one E gene it's black-based, if ee it's red-based. All horse colors are one or the other with modifiers added for colors besides Black and Chestnut.

The Agouti (A/At/a) gene here is considered only active in black-based horses, so a horse that is red-based (ee) won't express it no matter what alleles are present. What it does is restrict where on the horse black pigment is fully expressed. It limits actual black to the "points" of the horse and leaves the body lacking enough pigment to be truly black, so it's just sort of a faded black color (which appears red, but isn't). So a horse with E?A? is the full-on Agouti color we call "bay" with black points and reddish body. A horse with E?At? has more expression of pigment on the body, has brown "highlights" on the nose, flank, etc and black points and is called "brown". A horse with E?aa is black all over with no restriction from the Agouti gene.

So now we have what E/e and A/At/a are and what they mean to horse colors, you can take all those and apply the modifiers like the white-spotting patterns (Tobiano, Sabino, Frame), Roan, Dun, etc and add in that Champagne has those weird names and so does Cream(CcrC) (Chestnut + Cream = Palomino, Bay + Cream = Buckskin, Brown + Cream = Brown Buckskin, Black + Cream = Smoky Black) and Double Cream(CcrCcr) (Chestnut = Cremello, Bay/Brown = Perlino, Black = Smoky Cream).

Most of the genes here are dominantly-expressed (the capital letter means the horse has that trait), but Pearl is recessive (a horse must have prlprl to be Pearl) and Agouti has 3 alleles, where A overrides the other two, At only overrides a and aa means "non-Agouti).

Hope that helps some people who are still a bit confused. Variable color names don't help. It's like the gene that's called merle in every other dog breed is called dapple in dachshunds. You just have to learn the color names and roll with it.


Thank you!

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