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Sun Ranch
01:11:45 
I usually stop tracking at week 12 if the horse is consistent.
Angels angels
01:11:21 [1k+ brindles] Angel
For my studs I only track WWWs because the other are used for quest
Fantasy Horses
01:10:51 Fantasy | Fanta
Nice sol!
pandemoniu_m
01:10:28 pheezy
okay phew thank you. im actually relieved i've been overdoing it 😭
the clutter has been making my brain itch
Angels angels
01:10:07 [1k+ brindles] Angel
I only track EWE+ because everything else is for color, public broods, or quest breeding lol
Solstheim Manor
01:09:47 Sol
1 of 1 EEE filly o.o -HEE Click-
Four Peaks Ranch
01:09:25 Four
penta
I'm a noob at tracking and I just realized today that I've been tracking my geldings for zero reason
Angels angels
01:09:22 [1k+ brindles] Angel
I do 12 because I am lazy but yeah 15 is the usual I believe
Silver Melody Acres
01:09:04 Solar - KNNs
I usually do to week 15 for Es and up (AD anyway) and PPPs or similar to week 10 or 11. I like tracking for quest or show breeders lol
Fantasy Horses
01:08:51 Fantasy | Fanta
Pheezy
Most people stop around week 15
Sunset River Arabian
01:08:50 Athena - AAs
I stop at 15
Pentagram Stables
01:08:43 Penta - KNNs
My studs and mares aren't tracked past week 12.
Geldings don't get tracked at all.
Angels angels
01:07:48 [1k+ brindles] Angel
pheezy
Most people do 12-15
pandemoniu_m
01:07:04 pheezy
at what week do you all usually stop tracking? is it more situational or is there a solid answer?
the remarks start to feel so cluttered around the 28 week mark
Glacier Bay Cove
01:06:55 Arctic Katz
Your suggestion was wonderful, thanks Angels. I plan on doing it again when I can
Angels angels
01:04:12 [1k+ brindles] Angel
My yearly is almost 5 mil
Silver Melody Acres
01:04:02 Solar - KNNs
Oh, I forgot I gave my accountant a love potion this morning lol
Lynx Glory
01:03:34 ⛈ whisper/lynx
Athena
wow xD i have 300k :'p
Sunset River Arabian
01:02:58 Athena - AAs
do I have 7 mil? ...no...art is my downfall. And items for matches
Lynx Glory
01:02:54 ⛈ whisper/lynx
-HEE Click-
i'm sad i forgot to track her training earlier than W7. i would've liked to know what her W4 was xD

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Sun Ranch
01:11:45 
I usually stop tracking at week 12 if the horse is consistent.
Angels angels
01:11:21 [1k+ brindles] Angel
For my studs I only track WWWs because the other are used for quest
Fantasy Horses
01:10:51 Fantasy | Fanta
Nice sol!
pandemoniu_m
01:10:28 pheezy
okay phew thank you. im actually relieved i've been overdoing it 😭
the clutter has been making my brain itch
Angels angels
01:10:07 [1k+ brindles] Angel
I only track EWE+ because everything else is for color, public broods, or quest breeding lol
Solstheim Manor
01:09:47 Sol
1 of 1 EEE filly o.o -HEE Click-
Four Peaks Ranch
01:09:25 Four
penta
I'm a noob at tracking and I just realized today that I've been tracking my geldings for zero reason
Angels angels
01:09:22 [1k+ brindles] Angel
I do 12 because I am lazy but yeah 15 is the usual I believe
Silver Melody Acres
01:09:04 Solar - KNNs
I usually do to week 15 for Es and up (AD anyway) and PPPs or similar to week 10 or 11. I like tracking for quest or show breeders lol
Fantasy Horses
01:08:51 Fantasy | Fanta
Pheezy
Most people stop around week 15
Sunset River Arabian
01:08:50 Athena - AAs
I stop at 15
Pentagram Stables
01:08:43 Penta - KNNs
My studs and mares aren't tracked past week 12.
Geldings don't get tracked at all.
Angels angels
01:07:48 [1k+ brindles] Angel
pheezy
Most people do 12-15
pandemoniu_m
01:07:04 pheezy
at what week do you all usually stop tracking? is it more situational or is there a solid answer?
the remarks start to feel so cluttered around the 28 week mark
Glacier Bay Cove
01:06:55 Arctic Katz
Your suggestion was wonderful, thanks Angels. I plan on doing it again when I can
Angels angels
01:04:12 [1k+ brindles] Angel
My yearly is almost 5 mil
Silver Melody Acres
01:04:02 Solar - KNNs
Oh, I forgot I gave my accountant a love potion this morning lol
Lynx Glory
01:03:34 ⛈ whisper/lynx
Athena
wow xD i have 300k :'p
Sunset River Arabian
01:02:58 Athena - AAs
do I have 7 mil? ...no...art is my downfall. And items for matches
Lynx Glory
01:02:54 ⛈ whisper/lynx
-HEE Click-
i'm sad i forgot to track her training earlier than W7. i would've liked to know what her W4 was xD

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Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:21 PM


Eastwood Acres
 
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I'm not to good with genetics and just tested her. If someone can help I'd like to know if there's anything special or noteworthy about her genetics :) Thank you in advance!

Edited at February 25, 2024 04:21 PM by Eastwood Acres
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:27 PM


The Joker

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Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:39 PM


Eastwood Acres
 
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The Joker said:
Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!


Thank you so much! I appreciate it a lot :)
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 05:01 PM


The Joker

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Eastwood Acres said:

The Joker said:
Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!


Thank you so much! I appreciate it a lot :)


Of course! Happy to help :) I believe the amber part of her colour is caused by her base colour of Ee which would usually be bay/brown, I may be incorrect though and it may be linked to the agouti gene instead
Genetic Help February 26, 2024 01:28 PM


Clear Springs
 
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Champagnes have weird color names.
Gold Champagne = Chestnut (ee ??) + Champagne gene
Amber Champagne = Bay (E?A?) + Champagne gene
Sable Champagne = Brown (E?At?) + Champagne gene
Classic Champagne = Black (E?aa)+ Champagne gene

So the "Amber" part of her color just means she would be a plain bay horse without the Champagne gene. She's E(black-based) A(agouti) plus Ch(Champagne). She also has that At gene in there which doesn't show on her, but means she could have a brown foal.

The Extension (E/e) gene just determines if a horse is black-based or red-based. If the horse has at least one E gene it's black-based, if ee it's red-based. All horse colors are one or the other with modifiers added for colors besides Black and Chestnut.

The Agouti (A/At/a) gene here is considered only active in black-based horses, so a horse that is red-based (ee) won't express it no matter what alleles are present. What it does is restrict where on the horse black pigment is fully expressed. It limits actual black to the "points" of the horse and leaves the body lacking enough pigment to be truly black, so it's just sort of a faded black color (which appears red, but isn't). So a horse with E?A? is the full-on Agouti color we call "bay" with black points and reddish body. A horse with E?At? has more expression of pigment on the body, has brown "highlights" on the nose, flank, etc and black points and is called "brown". A horse with E?aa is black all over with no restriction from the Agouti gene.

So now we have what E/e and A/At/a are and what they mean to horse colors, you can take all those and apply the modifiers like the white-spotting patterns (Tobiano, Sabino, Frame), Roan, Dun, etc and add in that Champagne has those weird names and so does Cream(CcrC) (Chestnut + Cream = Palomino, Bay + Cream = Buckskin, Brown + Cream = Brown Buckskin, Black + Cream = Smoky Black) and Double Cream(CcrCcr) (Chestnut = Cremello, Bay/Brown = Perlino, Black = Smoky Cream).

Most of the genes here are dominantly-expressed (the capital letter means the horse has that trait), but Pearl is recessive (a horse must have prlprl to be Pearl) and Agouti has 3 alleles, where A overrides the other two, At only overrides a and aa means "non-Agouti).

Hope that helps some people who are still a bit confused. Variable color names don't help. It's like the gene that's called merle in every other dog breed is called dapple in dachshunds. You just have to learn the color names and roll with it.

Edited at February 26, 2024 02:06 PM by Clear Springs
Genetic Help February 26, 2024 10:38 PM


Eastwood Acres
 
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Clear Springs said:
Champagnes have weird color names.
Gold Champagne = Chestnut (ee ??) + Champagne gene
Amber Champagne = Bay (E?A?) + Champagne gene
Sable Champagne = Brown (E?At?) + Champagne gene
Classic Champagne = Black (E?aa)+ Champagne gene

So the "Amber" part of her color just means she would be a plain bay horse without the Champagne gene. She's E(black-based) A(agouti) plus Ch(Champagne). She also has that At gene in there which doesn't show on her, but means she could have a brown foal.

The Extension (E/e) gene just determines if a horse is black-based or red-based. If the horse has at least one E gene it's black-based, if ee it's red-based. All horse colors are one or the other with modifiers added for colors besides Black and Chestnut.

The Agouti (A/At/a) gene here is considered only active in black-based horses, so a horse that is red-based (ee) won't express it no matter what alleles are present. What it does is restrict where on the horse black pigment is fully expressed. It limits actual black to the "points" of the horse and leaves the body lacking enough pigment to be truly black, so it's just sort of a faded black color (which appears red, but isn't). So a horse with E?A? is the full-on Agouti color we call "bay" with black points and reddish body. A horse with E?At? has more expression of pigment on the body, has brown "highlights" on the nose, flank, etc and black points and is called "brown". A horse with E?aa is black all over with no restriction from the Agouti gene.

So now we have what E/e and A/At/a are and what they mean to horse colors, you can take all those and apply the modifiers like the white-spotting patterns (Tobiano, Sabino, Frame), Roan, Dun, etc and add in that Champagne has those weird names and so does Cream(CcrC) (Chestnut + Cream = Palomino, Bay + Cream = Buckskin, Brown + Cream = Brown Buckskin, Black + Cream = Smoky Black) and Double Cream(CcrCcr) (Chestnut = Cremello, Bay/Brown = Perlino, Black = Smoky Cream).

Most of the genes here are dominantly-expressed (the capital letter means the horse has that trait), but Pearl is recessive (a horse must have prlprl to be Pearl) and Agouti has 3 alleles, where A overrides the other two, At only overrides a and aa means "non-Agouti).

Hope that helps some people who are still a bit confused. Variable color names don't help. It's like the gene that's called merle in every other dog breed is called dapple in dachshunds. You just have to learn the color names and roll with it.


Thank you!

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