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Angels angels
12:31:36 [1k+ brindles] Angel
I cull mine when they start training messed up lol because I show S and up sometimes it goes wonky
Alpine Acres
12:30:58 Lily/Alpine
Lilac, this guide is particularly helpful :)
-HEE Click-
MakeEm Fancy
12:30:15 Ally 💜
I show when they are in green and I personally haven't culled mine
Angels angels
12:29:51 [1k+ brindles] Angel
Lilac
there are tons of guides in the forums but you can pm me and I can help :)
Lilac Heart
12:29:10 Lilac
Hmm does anyone have any guides on show geldings and when to know when to cull them?
MakeEm Fancy
12:29:08 Ally 💜
He gets another puppy shot in less than 2 weeks.
Angels angels
12:25:45 [1k+ brindles] Angel
Only need a few more straws then start getting my items
Glacier Bay Cove
12:25:17 Arctic Katz
Puppy cuddles and cat cuddles are AWESOME
MakeEm Fancy
12:22:08 Ally 💜
Im getting puppy cuddles and enjoying every moment of it
Angels angels
12:13:53 [1k+ brindles] Angel
I know right lol
MakeEm Fancy
12:10:33 Ally 💜
You were right though about them just falling off 😳 it was shocking watching how well it worked
Angels angels
12:09:38 [1k+ brindles] Angel
Oh okay lol
I hope you find it. I am glad it is working for you !
MakeEm Fancy
12:09:14 Ally 💜
I did end up picking up the dog one and have been using it on my big dogs and it has helped so much!
MakeEm Fancy
12:08:34 Ally 💜
We think around 12 weeks. I ordered it online and instead of sending it they refunded me 🙄 I have been stalking petsmarts to find it and the one we go to didnt have it and said they should have a shipment soon so Im waiting for paychecks to come in and will go back
Angels angels
12:04:10 [1k+ brindles] Angel
How old is you kitten? The cat one is safe for 12 weeks and older. It is on chewy and petco :)
*Stable of Jewels*
12:04:06 Jewel🍄
Hellloooo there!!
MakeEm Fancy
12:02:52 Ally 💜
Yes @Angels
Crestwood Eq.
12:02:17 Ivy / poison ivy
ghost

ok. i'd prefer no download though
Kingswood Elite
12:01:58 ghost
Ivy
I just use Ibis Paint but I'm still fairly new to manips myself
Angels angels
11:58:10 [1k+ brindles] Angel
Ally
which one the TropiClean?

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Angels angels
12:31:36 [1k+ brindles] Angel
I cull mine when they start training messed up lol because I show S and up sometimes it goes wonky
Alpine Acres
12:30:58 Lily/Alpine
Lilac, this guide is particularly helpful :)
-HEE Click-
MakeEm Fancy
12:30:15 Ally 💜
I show when they are in green and I personally haven't culled mine
Angels angels
12:29:51 [1k+ brindles] Angel
Lilac
there are tons of guides in the forums but you can pm me and I can help :)
Lilac Heart
12:29:10 Lilac
Hmm does anyone have any guides on show geldings and when to know when to cull them?
MakeEm Fancy
12:29:08 Ally 💜
He gets another puppy shot in less than 2 weeks.
Angels angels
12:25:45 [1k+ brindles] Angel
Only need a few more straws then start getting my items
Glacier Bay Cove
12:25:17 Arctic Katz
Puppy cuddles and cat cuddles are AWESOME
MakeEm Fancy
12:22:08 Ally 💜
Im getting puppy cuddles and enjoying every moment of it
Angels angels
12:13:53 [1k+ brindles] Angel
I know right lol
MakeEm Fancy
12:10:33 Ally 💜
You were right though about them just falling off 😳 it was shocking watching how well it worked
Angels angels
12:09:38 [1k+ brindles] Angel
Oh okay lol
I hope you find it. I am glad it is working for you !
MakeEm Fancy
12:09:14 Ally 💜
I did end up picking up the dog one and have been using it on my big dogs and it has helped so much!
MakeEm Fancy
12:08:34 Ally 💜
We think around 12 weeks. I ordered it online and instead of sending it they refunded me 🙄 I have been stalking petsmarts to find it and the one we go to didnt have it and said they should have a shipment soon so Im waiting for paychecks to come in and will go back
Angels angels
12:04:10 [1k+ brindles] Angel
How old is you kitten? The cat one is safe for 12 weeks and older. It is on chewy and petco :)
*Stable of Jewels*
12:04:06 Jewel🍄
Hellloooo there!!
MakeEm Fancy
12:02:52 Ally 💜
Yes @Angels
Crestwood Eq.
12:02:17 Ivy / poison ivy
ghost

ok. i'd prefer no download though
Kingswood Elite
12:01:58 ghost
Ivy
I just use Ibis Paint but I'm still fairly new to manips myself
Angels angels
11:58:10 [1k+ brindles] Angel
Ally
which one the TropiClean?

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Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:21 PM


Eastwood Acres
 
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I'm not to good with genetics and just tested her. If someone can help I'd like to know if there's anything special or noteworthy about her genetics :) Thank you in advance!

Edited at February 25, 2024 04:21 PM by Eastwood Acres
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:27 PM


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Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:39 PM


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The Joker said:
Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!


Thank you so much! I appreciate it a lot :)
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 05:01 PM


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Eastwood Acres said:

The Joker said:
Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!


Thank you so much! I appreciate it a lot :)


Of course! Happy to help :) I believe the amber part of her colour is caused by her base colour of Ee which would usually be bay/brown, I may be incorrect though and it may be linked to the agouti gene instead
Genetic Help February 26, 2024 01:28 PM


Clear Springs
 
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Champagnes have weird color names.
Gold Champagne = Chestnut (ee ??) + Champagne gene
Amber Champagne = Bay (E?A?) + Champagne gene
Sable Champagne = Brown (E?At?) + Champagne gene
Classic Champagne = Black (E?aa)+ Champagne gene

So the "Amber" part of her color just means she would be a plain bay horse without the Champagne gene. She's E(black-based) A(agouti) plus Ch(Champagne). She also has that At gene in there which doesn't show on her, but means she could have a brown foal.

The Extension (E/e) gene just determines if a horse is black-based or red-based. If the horse has at least one E gene it's black-based, if ee it's red-based. All horse colors are one or the other with modifiers added for colors besides Black and Chestnut.

The Agouti (A/At/a) gene here is considered only active in black-based horses, so a horse that is red-based (ee) won't express it no matter what alleles are present. What it does is restrict where on the horse black pigment is fully expressed. It limits actual black to the "points" of the horse and leaves the body lacking enough pigment to be truly black, so it's just sort of a faded black color (which appears red, but isn't). So a horse with E?A? is the full-on Agouti color we call "bay" with black points and reddish body. A horse with E?At? has more expression of pigment on the body, has brown "highlights" on the nose, flank, etc and black points and is called "brown". A horse with E?aa is black all over with no restriction from the Agouti gene.

So now we have what E/e and A/At/a are and what they mean to horse colors, you can take all those and apply the modifiers like the white-spotting patterns (Tobiano, Sabino, Frame), Roan, Dun, etc and add in that Champagne has those weird names and so does Cream(CcrC) (Chestnut + Cream = Palomino, Bay + Cream = Buckskin, Brown + Cream = Brown Buckskin, Black + Cream = Smoky Black) and Double Cream(CcrCcr) (Chestnut = Cremello, Bay/Brown = Perlino, Black = Smoky Cream).

Most of the genes here are dominantly-expressed (the capital letter means the horse has that trait), but Pearl is recessive (a horse must have prlprl to be Pearl) and Agouti has 3 alleles, where A overrides the other two, At only overrides a and aa means "non-Agouti).

Hope that helps some people who are still a bit confused. Variable color names don't help. It's like the gene that's called merle in every other dog breed is called dapple in dachshunds. You just have to learn the color names and roll with it.

Edited at February 26, 2024 02:06 PM by Clear Springs
Genetic Help February 26, 2024 10:38 PM


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Clear Springs said:
Champagnes have weird color names.
Gold Champagne = Chestnut (ee ??) + Champagne gene
Amber Champagne = Bay (E?A?) + Champagne gene
Sable Champagne = Brown (E?At?) + Champagne gene
Classic Champagne = Black (E?aa)+ Champagne gene

So the "Amber" part of her color just means she would be a plain bay horse without the Champagne gene. She's E(black-based) A(agouti) plus Ch(Champagne). She also has that At gene in there which doesn't show on her, but means she could have a brown foal.

The Extension (E/e) gene just determines if a horse is black-based or red-based. If the horse has at least one E gene it's black-based, if ee it's red-based. All horse colors are one or the other with modifiers added for colors besides Black and Chestnut.

The Agouti (A/At/a) gene here is considered only active in black-based horses, so a horse that is red-based (ee) won't express it no matter what alleles are present. What it does is restrict where on the horse black pigment is fully expressed. It limits actual black to the "points" of the horse and leaves the body lacking enough pigment to be truly black, so it's just sort of a faded black color (which appears red, but isn't). So a horse with E?A? is the full-on Agouti color we call "bay" with black points and reddish body. A horse with E?At? has more expression of pigment on the body, has brown "highlights" on the nose, flank, etc and black points and is called "brown". A horse with E?aa is black all over with no restriction from the Agouti gene.

So now we have what E/e and A/At/a are and what they mean to horse colors, you can take all those and apply the modifiers like the white-spotting patterns (Tobiano, Sabino, Frame), Roan, Dun, etc and add in that Champagne has those weird names and so does Cream(CcrC) (Chestnut + Cream = Palomino, Bay + Cream = Buckskin, Brown + Cream = Brown Buckskin, Black + Cream = Smoky Black) and Double Cream(CcrCcr) (Chestnut = Cremello, Bay/Brown = Perlino, Black = Smoky Cream).

Most of the genes here are dominantly-expressed (the capital letter means the horse has that trait), but Pearl is recessive (a horse must have prlprl to be Pearl) and Agouti has 3 alleles, where A overrides the other two, At only overrides a and aa means "non-Agouti).

Hope that helps some people who are still a bit confused. Variable color names don't help. It's like the gene that's called merle in every other dog breed is called dapple in dachshunds. You just have to learn the color names and roll with it.


Thank you!

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