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Red Horizon Ranch
01:59:31 Red
Yeah Acacia you definitely can get Ws from the wild!
Red Horizon Ranch
01:57:44 Red
Min if you are open to it you should look up some demos for how clicker trainers teach good manners. He could definitely figure out expectations around food. It’s like if you’re bad at math you need to practice math problems. If he’s bad with food around you need to practice with him and food
Acacia Riding Center
01:57:02 
How are you guys capturing W's in the wild?
Minerva
01:53:50 Min
Thankfully Ted figured out FAST that I was a provider of food. It's unfortunate that we've had to annex treats because that would get him doing pretty much anything, but unfortunately he bites like a bastard when theres even the hint of them being around. He'll be a cracking horse when he's all grown up though- even as a gangly baby he's eyecatching
FirstLightFarms
01:46:26 puck
Oh thats so good! My guy isnt quite "lob a blanket on" level yet but its so rewarding watching how confident they can become
Minerva
01:45:19 Min
Absolutely haha. I'm really proud of him though- he arrived at the end of May vaguely leadable but pretty much feral and had to live in the field shelter for a week. Now he's out in the field with no headcollar 24/7 and I can lob a rug onto him while he's loose without him lifting his head
Red Horizon Ranch
01:44:39 Red
Yeah Boulder so relatable. I try to let my horse initiate touch and the things we do whenever possible. Like take the extra five minutes to let her walk up to me in the field instead of going out and getting her, pause when she turns her head away when brushing, etc. It changes the game truly and has honestly completely changed how I go about life in general, for the better. Horses have so little autonomy in our world so the little things like that we can do means so much to them. When I’m bridling a horse or anything like that I notice that they will maybe seem like they’re saying no initially by turning away or something. If you notice and respect that a lot of the time they will immediately put their nose in after, where if you had tried to chase after them it probably would escalate. That whole philosophy just means a lot to me
Boulder Creek
01:43:32 
Speaking of training
- I saw incredible training with Dan of Double Dan
What he can do with horses is amazing
I was enthralled with the Road To The Horse exhibition
Silver Melody Acres
01:42:08 Solar - KNNs
Typical gangly teenage boy XD
Minerva
01:40:50 Min
Haha I'll put a bit less pressure on myself then thank you. I'm hoping to get some poles before the end of the year so we can do some proprioception work because my goodness that boy doesn't know where his feet are xD Plus side is he doesn't mind things being around his legs whatsoever since he's so used to wandering into things
Pentagram Stables
01:40:06 Penta - KNNs
No lines, and no chasing. You just don't know our way and I'll leave it at that.
Boulder Creek
01:39:59 
I wasn't a super fan of Warwick until I saw an article heading that said something like Let Your Horse Approach You
(Yes literally only read the title)
And it's made a Huge improvement in my interactions with the horses at the barn.
I can have the stall door open and have them between me at it (huge outdoor pen) and they will chose to come to me and boop my hand without any interaction besides standing still.

And I saw a video where he said don't touch the horse until they touch you and they will tell you where to touch

(Some of it feels woowoo, but it's making a difference in the relationships between the horses and I)
Red Horizon Ranch
01:38:37 Red
Yeah of course, it’s definitely a trust the process kind of exercise you have to be patient and you’ll feel like you’re not doing anything but worth it. I enjoy when training feels more collaborative with our animal friends, worth the time it takes
FirstLightFarms
01:37:19 puck
And seconding Warwick Schiller, he's one of the few clinicians I really respect.
FirstLightFarms
01:36:44 puck
Awww good pony! It just sounds like typical laziness/not being confident enough to carry himself forward. He'll get there!
Minerva
01:35:18 Min
Ooh I'll have a look at that one, thanks Red!
Minerva
01:34:16 Min
Haha exactly Puck! I'm hoping the more we go out the more keen he'll be to get on with it. He's a very good chap overall- and he's even happy to walk out in front of Minnie if I've got someone to lead her. He met his first tractor last night and was a 10/10 brave boy bless him
FirstLightFarms
01:34:09 puck
Unless your lunge lunge is 200 feet long it's gonna be a small circle lol
Red Horizon Ranch
01:33:01 Red
And no chasing, showing them who’s boss, etc. necessary. I really don’t enjoy having to do that kind of thing and good news, you really basically never have to XD
Pentagram Stables
01:32:36 Penta - KNNs
I said nothing about small circles, but whatever.
We have a different view of how to do things with 2 yr olds.

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Red Horizon Ranch
01:59:31 Red
Yeah Acacia you definitely can get Ws from the wild!
Red Horizon Ranch
01:57:44 Red
Min if you are open to it you should look up some demos for how clicker trainers teach good manners. He could definitely figure out expectations around food. It’s like if you’re bad at math you need to practice math problems. If he’s bad with food around you need to practice with him and food
Acacia Riding Center
01:57:02 
How are you guys capturing W's in the wild?
Minerva
01:53:50 Min
Thankfully Ted figured out FAST that I was a provider of food. It's unfortunate that we've had to annex treats because that would get him doing pretty much anything, but unfortunately he bites like a bastard when theres even the hint of them being around. He'll be a cracking horse when he's all grown up though- even as a gangly baby he's eyecatching
FirstLightFarms
01:46:26 puck
Oh thats so good! My guy isnt quite "lob a blanket on" level yet but its so rewarding watching how confident they can become
Minerva
01:45:19 Min
Absolutely haha. I'm really proud of him though- he arrived at the end of May vaguely leadable but pretty much feral and had to live in the field shelter for a week. Now he's out in the field with no headcollar 24/7 and I can lob a rug onto him while he's loose without him lifting his head
Red Horizon Ranch
01:44:39 Red
Yeah Boulder so relatable. I try to let my horse initiate touch and the things we do whenever possible. Like take the extra five minutes to let her walk up to me in the field instead of going out and getting her, pause when she turns her head away when brushing, etc. It changes the game truly and has honestly completely changed how I go about life in general, for the better. Horses have so little autonomy in our world so the little things like that we can do means so much to them. When I’m bridling a horse or anything like that I notice that they will maybe seem like they’re saying no initially by turning away or something. If you notice and respect that a lot of the time they will immediately put their nose in after, where if you had tried to chase after them it probably would escalate. That whole philosophy just means a lot to me
Boulder Creek
01:43:32 
Speaking of training
- I saw incredible training with Dan of Double Dan
What he can do with horses is amazing
I was enthralled with the Road To The Horse exhibition
Silver Melody Acres
01:42:08 Solar - KNNs
Typical gangly teenage boy XD
Minerva
01:40:50 Min
Haha I'll put a bit less pressure on myself then thank you. I'm hoping to get some poles before the end of the year so we can do some proprioception work because my goodness that boy doesn't know where his feet are xD Plus side is he doesn't mind things being around his legs whatsoever since he's so used to wandering into things
Pentagram Stables
01:40:06 Penta - KNNs
No lines, and no chasing. You just don't know our way and I'll leave it at that.
Boulder Creek
01:39:59 
I wasn't a super fan of Warwick until I saw an article heading that said something like Let Your Horse Approach You
(Yes literally only read the title)
And it's made a Huge improvement in my interactions with the horses at the barn.
I can have the stall door open and have them between me at it (huge outdoor pen) and they will chose to come to me and boop my hand without any interaction besides standing still.

And I saw a video where he said don't touch the horse until they touch you and they will tell you where to touch

(Some of it feels woowoo, but it's making a difference in the relationships between the horses and I)
Red Horizon Ranch
01:38:37 Red
Yeah of course, it’s definitely a trust the process kind of exercise you have to be patient and you’ll feel like you’re not doing anything but worth it. I enjoy when training feels more collaborative with our animal friends, worth the time it takes
FirstLightFarms
01:37:19 puck
And seconding Warwick Schiller, he's one of the few clinicians I really respect.
FirstLightFarms
01:36:44 puck
Awww good pony! It just sounds like typical laziness/not being confident enough to carry himself forward. He'll get there!
Minerva
01:35:18 Min
Ooh I'll have a look at that one, thanks Red!
Minerva
01:34:16 Min
Haha exactly Puck! I'm hoping the more we go out the more keen he'll be to get on with it. He's a very good chap overall- and he's even happy to walk out in front of Minnie if I've got someone to lead her. He met his first tractor last night and was a 10/10 brave boy bless him
FirstLightFarms
01:34:09 puck
Unless your lunge lunge is 200 feet long it's gonna be a small circle lol
Red Horizon Ranch
01:33:01 Red
And no chasing, showing them who’s boss, etc. necessary. I really don’t enjoy having to do that kind of thing and good news, you really basically never have to XD
Pentagram Stables
01:32:36 Penta - KNNs
I said nothing about small circles, but whatever.
We have a different view of how to do things with 2 yr olds.

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Riding Issues January 21, 2022 04:21 PM


Dusk acres
 
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*Disclaimer, I did not know whether to put this in the snark factory or the paddock so if this is in the wrong category please forgive!*

So I've been riding for 4(?) years now. I'm only just now learning how to canter! I feel like at first I was learning a ton and progressing each lesson. But now I just to the same trot work to "Fix my lower leg" but alas, 6 months went by and no progress. I barely ever canter and when I do it's just my instructor saying "no, no! Wrong leg! Wrong leg! Are you listening?!" I used to think it was fine but then my friend started cantering in just a year. Should I get a new instructor? Or am I just a slow learner?

Riding Issues January 21, 2022 04:37 PM


SandWitch Arabians
 
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Everyone learns at a different pace. 'Wrong leg' doesn't tell you much. Does your instructor go into more detail ? You might ask them to show you what they mean.
Riding Issues January 21, 2022 04:39 PM


FirstLightFarms

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As an instructor, I have kids that are ready to canter in six months and kids that are ready in two years and some that will simply never be at that level. Cantering is faster and more unsteady and any weaknesses a rider has at the trot are going to create a dangerous situation at the canter. Everybody learns at their own pace.
The kids that are easiest to teach are the ones that actually put in the work and TRUST me. When I say "heels down", they put their heels down, even if it feels wrong because they've grown used to having their heels up. In this sport, if you're not uncomfortable, you're not going to improve. It's like writing with your opposite hand. Of course it feels wrong. You've been doing it a different way for your whole life. But once you push through that discomfort, and you can write left handed or put your heels down, then a whole world opens up to you.
That being said, it is highly possible that you and your coach aren't meshing. It may be worth visiting another barn, if what she says and how she says it isn't clicking with you. There's nothing wrong with needing a different type of instruction.
Riding Issues January 21, 2022 04:39 PM


Dusk acres
 
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Ive asked them, apparently im cueing for the canter with the wrong leg, ive tried to fix it but nothing workes ; (

SandWitch Arabians said:
Everyone learns at a different pace. 'Wrong leg' doesn't tell you much. Does your instructor go into more detail ? You might ask them to show you what they mean.


Riding Issues January 21, 2022 04:40 PM


Dusk acres
 
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Thanks

FirstLightFarms said:
As an instructor, I have kids that are ready to canter in six months and kids that are ready in two years and some that will simply never be at that level. Cantering is faster and more unsteady and any weaknesses a rider has at the trot are going to create a dangerous situation at the canter. Everybody learns at their own pace.
The kids that are easiest to teach are the ones that actually put in the work and TRUST me. When I say "heels down", they put their heels down, even if it feels wrong because they've grown used to having their heels up. In this sport, if you're not uncomfortable, you're not going to improve. It's like writing with your opposite hand. Of course it feels wrong. You've been doing it a different way for your whole life. But once you push through that discomfort, and you can write left handed or put your heels down, then a whole world opens up to you.
That being said, it is highly possible that you and your coach aren't meshing. It may be worth visiting another barn, if what she says and how she says it isn't clicking with you. There's nothing wrong with needing a different type of instruction.


Riding Issues January 22, 2022 03:57 PM


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I teach younger kids occasionally, and one thing i can tell you is that everybody had different progress levels. Its taken me 8 years of riding 3 times a week to get me at the level im at. Its hard work!
But i understand its hard. Especially in canter, which is a very different pace to walk or trot! its hard to get used too sometimes. Try talking to your coach about explaining things a little better and more thouroughly. Just like you, i spent 4 years just really learning how to master walk trot and canter before i started jumping and doing dressage and more complicated stuff! a piece of advice ill give you is to not be afraid to stop, take a breath and talk to your instructor about whats going on. If they are telling you "wrong leg!" ask them how to fix it. Ask them how to show you how to get on the correct leg. It took me 4 years to finally realize all i had to do was ask, and stop being scared of my horse and my instructor. If you ever need riding advice for cantering, leg positioning, whatever, just message me! im not a professional by any means but ive been riding for a while now, on a lot of different horses. And just like you its taken me many many years of training to progress! Just remember to always have fun and enjoy everything <3
Riding Issues August 16, 2022 10:23 AM


Dusk acres
 
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I switched instructors and and now can canter!
Riding Issues August 21, 2022 02:24 AM


Helderfontein
 
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Yay, that's so exciting! I hope you're enjoying yourself!

I started riding when I was 6. I cantered on my first ride and properly learned how to canter within the first week.

not only is each rider diffrent, but each instructor is different too. Some don't know how to teach beginners, some don't know how to teach advanced riders. Some(often the ones who had to work harder at it and may not be 'naturally talented') are really good at explaining 'things' thoroughly and clearly(and will re-explain it if asked), and others(often the 'naturally talented' riders) can't or don't know how to explain 'things' properly. It's just a matter of finding an instructor that not only suits your needs, but one who you can trust(and who trusts you), and who will explain 'things' to your understanding. Also one that you get along with, because that is also very important.

I hope you like your new instructor!

Riding Issues August 21, 2022 04:19 PM


Dusk acres
 
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Thank you so much! My old instuctors teaching style did not fit well with my learning style and it took me 3 years to understand that, now im doing so much better and learning so much more!

Helderfontein said:

Yay, that's so exciting! I hope you're enjoying yourself!

I started riding when I was 6. I cantered on my first ride and properly learned how to canter within the first week.

not only is each rider diffrent, but each instructor is different too. Some don't know how to teach beginners, some don't know how to teach advanced riders. Some(often the ones who had to work harder at it and may not be 'naturally talented') are really good at explaining 'things' thoroughly and clearly(and will re-explain it if asked), and others(often the 'naturally talented' riders) can't or don't know how to explain 'things' properly. It's just a matter of finding an instructor that not only suits your needs, but one who you can trust(and who trusts you), and who will explain 'things' to your understanding. Also one that you get along with, because that is also very important.

I hope you like your new instructor!



Riding Issues August 22, 2022 09:22 PM


Helderfontein
 
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Yay, glad to hear it!

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