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Boulder Creek
01:43:32 
Speaking of training
- I saw incredible training with Dan of Double Dan
What he can do with horses is amazing
I was enthralled with the Road To The Horse exhibition
Silver Melody Acres
01:42:08 Solar - KNNs
Typical gangly teenage boy XD
Minerva
01:40:50 Min
Haha I'll put a bit less pressure on myself then thank you. I'm hoping to get some poles before the end of the year so we can do some proprioception work because my goodness that boy doesn't know where his feet are xD Plus side is he doesn't mind things being around his legs whatsoever since he's so used to wandering into things
Pentagram Stables
01:40:06 Penta - KNNs
No lines, and no chasing. You just don't know our way and I'll leave it at that.
Boulder Creek
01:39:59 
I wasn't a super fan of Warwick until I saw an article heading that said something like Let Your Horse Approach You
(Yes literally only read the title)
And it's made a Huge improvement in my interactions with the horses at the barn.
I can have the stall door open and have them between me at it (huge outdoor pen) and they will chose to come to me and boop my hand without any interaction besides standing still.

And I saw a video where he said don't touch the horse until they touch you and they will tell you where to touch

(Some of it feels woowoo, but it's making a difference in the relationships between the horses and I)
Red Horizon Ranch
01:38:37 Red
Yeah of course, it’s definitely a trust the process kind of exercise you have to be patient and you’ll feel like you’re not doing anything but worth it. I enjoy when training feels more collaborative with our animal friends, worth the time it takes
FirstLightFarms
01:37:19 puck
And seconding Warwick Schiller, he's one of the few clinicians I really respect.
FirstLightFarms
01:36:44 puck
Awww good pony! It just sounds like typical laziness/not being confident enough to carry himself forward. He'll get there!
Minerva
01:35:18 Min
Ooh I'll have a look at that one, thanks Red!
Minerva
01:34:16 Min
Haha exactly Puck! I'm hoping the more we go out the more keen he'll be to get on with it. He's a very good chap overall- and he's even happy to walk out in front of Minnie if I've got someone to lead her. He met his first tractor last night and was a 10/10 brave boy bless him
FirstLightFarms
01:34:09 puck
Unless your lunge lunge is 200 feet long it's gonna be a small circle lol
Red Horizon Ranch
01:33:01 Red
And no chasing, showing them who’s boss, etc. necessary. I really don’t enjoy having to do that kind of thing and good news, you really basically never have to XD
Pentagram Stables
01:32:36 Penta - KNNs
I said nothing about small circles, but whatever.
We have a different view of how to do things with 2 yr olds.
Red Horizon Ranch
01:31:35 Red
I really like Warwick Schiller’s “leading with energy” exercise for staying in the right position/responsiveness when leading, my mate was so “lazy” seeming and wanted to be directly behind me while leading, would pin her ears and swish tail when asked to go forward, it worked incredibly well
Minerva
01:31:33 Min
To be honest the maximum I'd ever lunge any horse is like 20 minutes, and that would be their entire work for the day. It has it's place but isn't my preferred method for anything
FirstLightFarms
01:30:53 puck
Min, he sounds like my pony! Just needs to learn a little responsibility about walking forward instead of being dragged every step 😂
FirstLightFarms
01:30:05 puck
Yeah it'd hurt, small circles are the worst for babies. Great way to do damage to their joints. And chasing a horse on the line isnt exactly the best way to establish you're in charge 🙃
Minerva
01:29:48 Min
That's great Puck, thank you! He naturally likes to put himself behind me, although we've been working on that and he's much happier walking out nicely now. When we're out and about he plants a few times right at the start, then likes to march. He's definitely more of a woah than go pony, which will be great when I'm backing him in a few years, but not ideal with ride and lead haha
Red Horizon Ranch
01:29:28 Red
Going in circles for more than a few minutes is not good for baby joints
Pentagram Stables
01:28:14 Penta - KNNs
Creek - it's not like he'd be asked to canter, or even trot for an entire hour. lol
It wouldn't hurt him any, and he might just get the idea who's in charge.

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Boulder Creek
01:43:32 
Speaking of training
- I saw incredible training with Dan of Double Dan
What he can do with horses is amazing
I was enthralled with the Road To The Horse exhibition
Silver Melody Acres
01:42:08 Solar - KNNs
Typical gangly teenage boy XD
Minerva
01:40:50 Min
Haha I'll put a bit less pressure on myself then thank you. I'm hoping to get some poles before the end of the year so we can do some proprioception work because my goodness that boy doesn't know where his feet are xD Plus side is he doesn't mind things being around his legs whatsoever since he's so used to wandering into things
Pentagram Stables
01:40:06 Penta - KNNs
No lines, and no chasing. You just don't know our way and I'll leave it at that.
Boulder Creek
01:39:59 
I wasn't a super fan of Warwick until I saw an article heading that said something like Let Your Horse Approach You
(Yes literally only read the title)
And it's made a Huge improvement in my interactions with the horses at the barn.
I can have the stall door open and have them between me at it (huge outdoor pen) and they will chose to come to me and boop my hand without any interaction besides standing still.

And I saw a video where he said don't touch the horse until they touch you and they will tell you where to touch

(Some of it feels woowoo, but it's making a difference in the relationships between the horses and I)
Red Horizon Ranch
01:38:37 Red
Yeah of course, it’s definitely a trust the process kind of exercise you have to be patient and you’ll feel like you’re not doing anything but worth it. I enjoy when training feels more collaborative with our animal friends, worth the time it takes
FirstLightFarms
01:37:19 puck
And seconding Warwick Schiller, he's one of the few clinicians I really respect.
FirstLightFarms
01:36:44 puck
Awww good pony! It just sounds like typical laziness/not being confident enough to carry himself forward. He'll get there!
Minerva
01:35:18 Min
Ooh I'll have a look at that one, thanks Red!
Minerva
01:34:16 Min
Haha exactly Puck! I'm hoping the more we go out the more keen he'll be to get on with it. He's a very good chap overall- and he's even happy to walk out in front of Minnie if I've got someone to lead her. He met his first tractor last night and was a 10/10 brave boy bless him
FirstLightFarms
01:34:09 puck
Unless your lunge lunge is 200 feet long it's gonna be a small circle lol
Red Horizon Ranch
01:33:01 Red
And no chasing, showing them who’s boss, etc. necessary. I really don’t enjoy having to do that kind of thing and good news, you really basically never have to XD
Pentagram Stables
01:32:36 Penta - KNNs
I said nothing about small circles, but whatever.
We have a different view of how to do things with 2 yr olds.
Red Horizon Ranch
01:31:35 Red
I really like Warwick Schiller’s “leading with energy” exercise for staying in the right position/responsiveness when leading, my mate was so “lazy” seeming and wanted to be directly behind me while leading, would pin her ears and swish tail when asked to go forward, it worked incredibly well
Minerva
01:31:33 Min
To be honest the maximum I'd ever lunge any horse is like 20 minutes, and that would be their entire work for the day. It has it's place but isn't my preferred method for anything
FirstLightFarms
01:30:53 puck
Min, he sounds like my pony! Just needs to learn a little responsibility about walking forward instead of being dragged every step 😂
FirstLightFarms
01:30:05 puck
Yeah it'd hurt, small circles are the worst for babies. Great way to do damage to their joints. And chasing a horse on the line isnt exactly the best way to establish you're in charge 🙃
Minerva
01:29:48 Min
That's great Puck, thank you! He naturally likes to put himself behind me, although we've been working on that and he's much happier walking out nicely now. When we're out and about he plants a few times right at the start, then likes to march. He's definitely more of a woah than go pony, which will be great when I'm backing him in a few years, but not ideal with ride and lead haha
Red Horizon Ranch
01:29:28 Red
Going in circles for more than a few minutes is not good for baby joints
Pentagram Stables
01:28:14 Penta - KNNs
Creek - it's not like he'd be asked to canter, or even trot for an entire hour. lol
It wouldn't hurt him any, and he might just get the idea who's in charge.

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Horse ownership December 29, 2019 03:50 PM


Moonglade Manor
 
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You seem ready, but it is really up to your parents
Horse ownership December 29, 2019 03:57 PM


Moonglade Manor
 
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Sagebrush said:
Thank you! I'll go over this if/when the time comes where I am allowed to get a horse, and whenevever I need this great advice! Also, how expensive are younger trail/pleasure horses compared to show horses? How diffrent is a gelding from a mare? And, what are some red flags that you can find just while reviewing advertisements?


Here are some tips for actually buying the horse
-if you go to buy a horse and it is very clean or it is obvious that it has been washed a lot, don't buy it, they were probably cleaning sweat off the horse because they were riding it lots to make it tired to stop bad behavior
-if there is no good pictures of the horse on the ad, don't buy it, make sure there are good pictures
i will post more later
Horse ownership December 29, 2019 04:01 PM

Former Stable
 
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Just to add to what Moon said. I'd visit the horse at least twice. Don't make a rushed decision. Someone I knew bought a beautiful horse, he worked perfectly when she was trying him out but it turned out that he had been drugged and was an absolute maniac when she had him at at home, he was sold on sadly. Its a shame though he was stunning
Horse ownership December 29, 2019 04:05 PM


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Thank you both, oak and moon!
Horse ownership December 29, 2019 04:08 PM

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Sagebrush said:
Thank you both, oak and moon!


No problem :) Good luck!
Horse ownership December 30, 2019 10:04 AM

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I agree with Oak, but I think that Moon's advice is a little silly... (no offense meant, Moon)

Having a picture on the ad is always nice, but don't just throw the horse out the window of the picture isn't the greatest. If it shows the horse, that's all you need. You can make more judgement on conformation/coat/etc if you go to see the horse. As for clean coats, almost every seller is going to wash their horse before they get tried out. As a seller, you want to make the best impression and show off everything about your horse. A nice, clean, shiny coat is attractive. If your seller is leaving you a mud bath, I'd be thoroughly surprised.

Red flags on advertisements are usually pretty obvious. I can't seem to think of any examples at the moment, so I'll come back to this another time when I've thought of some.

There isn't a real difference between mares and geldings. Everybody's idea is that mares are pissier and geldings are more cuddly, but that's not exactly true. It isn't %100 wrong, but there are tons of cuddly mares and pissy geldings. As for physical capability, they are totally equal. When going into buying a horse, I'm never worried about gender.

The price of horses will change depending on what state/country you're in and what the sellers think the horses are worth (plus if it's a buyers market or sellers market, but let's not get into the technical stuff). Young trail/pleasure horses are typically much, much cheaper than a middle aged to older show horse. Depending on where you buy from, I doubt the price would go over 3,500. A good deal would likely be in the late hundreds-early thousands.

Horse ownership December 30, 2019 10:27 AM


EmeraldHillsFarm
 
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Sagebrush said:
Also, how expensive are younger trail/pleasure horses compared to show horses? How diffrent is a gelding from a mare? And, what are some red flags that you can find just while reviewing advertisements?


Good questions! Horse prices will vary widely based on your location. I'd say a young but well broke trail/pleasure horse would go for 2500-7000 USD in my area. Younger horses with more potential to possibly be show horses or who have a flashy color and markings will be priced higher. Horses advertised as trail horses less than 1500 are usually priced so low for a reason, i.e. they're very green or a problem horse.
Again in my area, a solid show horse will cost at least 10k. The more show experience they have the higher the price. But there are always exceptions--when my brother was little we got a cute grade pony for him that cost less than 5k and turned heads in the show ring.
Geldings vs mares. Typically geldings are more calm and tractable than mares. When mares go into heat they are understandably uncomfortable and ruled by hormones. Some mares are more "mare-ish" than others, but all horses are individuals and some mares are easier to handle than some geldings!
Ooh, red flags! So many!
1. If it seems too good to be true, it probably is.
2. Ridiculous pictures in the sale ad, like the owner's kids standing on a pony's back.
3. The barn where the horse is kept or the person selling the horse has a bad reputation. Ask around before visiting!
4. The facility is dingy. Especially if this is apparent even in the photos in the sale ad. Poor farm management often = poor horse management.
5. Horse has had many owners. This is for a reason, and not a good one. If a horse is registered past owners can be looked up on the association's website in many cases.
6. Owner is secretive or avoids questions about the horse's training, behavior, health, or anything really. If you think they're hiding something, they are.
7. Has spent the past few years just sitting in a field, unworked. Sometimes circumstances make it so that an owner has lost interest/cannot ride for whatever reason. Or it could mean the horse is difficult and no one wants to bother with it. Regardless it will be difficult to see this horse's true colors until it is back in work.
8. Reduced price! Must go! (Approach with caution.)
Common euphemisms seen in horse sale ads coming up next...
Horse ownership December 30, 2019 10:52 AM


Jericho Stables
 
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I'd be more wary of ads that specifically say no rear, no buck, no vices than ones with a bad picture lol.
And a clean horse could just be the owners want their horse to look the best 🤷‍♀️
Horse ownership December 30, 2019 11:12 AM


FirstLightFarms

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^ I was scrubbing mud stains off a gray horse when the buyers showed up to look at him. Nothing sketchy going on, it's just respectable to show off a clean horse.
Honestly, the best way to buy a horse is through word of mouth. Online ads can show you some good ones, but talking to people you know and trust can help more- somebody knows of somebody who has a great horse who needs a good home. I've never gone out and bought a horse, all of mine have come from friends and family.
Of course, you can still look for horses and buy one from someone you don't know. Bring a more experienced friend/trainer to keep an eye out for sketchy signs. See if the horse seems alert- a sleepy eye might indicate a drugged horse (or just a lazy horse, but still. Keep a sharp look out). And be cynical on the way out. Keep in mind what you want, and don't make excuses for a horse just because you want a horse. You want *the* horse. And don't be afraid to ask questions! If a seller is reluctant to answer, that could be a bad sign. Anybody honest will be more than happy to tell you everything you want to know.
Also- don't oversell your abilities. I had someone show up to try a horse for lease, she told me she was an experienced 3' jumper. She got on the horse and it was instantly obvious that she could barely balance, had no business cantering let alone jumping. The horse took off because she kept bouncing on his back and it could've ended in somebody getting hurt. We got lucky, but still. Overselling yourself doesn't help you, doesn't help your horse, and only pisses off the sellers.
Not saying you would! But now that I'm thinking about the trials and tribulations of selling horses, I'm rambling.
But mostly- don't settle! You may find the perfect horse tomorrow. You may find it next year. But I promise, it's worth the wait.
Horse ownership December 30, 2019 11:12 AM


FirstLightFarms

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^ I was scrubbing mud stains off a gray horse when the buyers showed up to look at him. Nothing sketchy going on, it's just respectable to show off a clean horse.
Honestly, the best way to buy a horse is through word of mouth. Online ads can show you some good ones, but talking to people you know and trust can help more- somebody knows of somebody who has a great horse who needs a good home. I've never gone out and bought a horse, all of mine have come from friends and family.
Of course, you can still look for horses and buy one from someone you don't know. Bring a more experienced friend/trainer to keep an eye out for sketchy signs. See if the horse seems alert- a sleepy eye might indicate a drugged horse (or just a lazy horse, but still. Keep a sharp look out). And be cynical on the way out. Keep in mind what you want, and don't make excuses for a horse just because you want a horse. You want *the* horse. And don't be afraid to ask questions! If a seller is reluctant to answer, that could be a bad sign. Anybody honest will be more than happy to tell you everything you want to know.
Also- don't oversell your abilities. I had someone show up to try a horse for lease, she told me she was an experienced 3' jumper. She got on the horse and it was instantly obvious that she could barely balance, had no business cantering let alone jumping. The horse took off because she kept bouncing on his back and it could've ended in somebody getting hurt. We got lucky, but still. Overselling yourself doesn't help you, doesn't help your horse, and only pisses off the sellers.
Not saying you would! But now that I'm thinking about the trials and tribulations of selling horses, I'm rambling.
But mostly- don't settle! You may find the perfect horse tomorrow. You may find it next year. But I promise, it's worth the wait.

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