Horse Eden Eventing Game
Horse Eden Eventing Game


Year: 193   Season: Fall   
$: 0
Forecast: Breezy and Pleasant
Forecast:
Sun 10:13pm  
Stables Online:  97 
Chatbox
Hummingbird Meadows
10:13:23 Bird
Other than betta fish, what are some good beginner fish?
Dash and Duchess
10:12:09 DD | ~Squizard~
Exactly what charm said! It really makes things easier, and the fish love it too!
Hummingbird Meadows
10:11:48 Bird
@DD, so you have had good luck with plants?
Backwood Barns
10:10:56 Charm's Wubs
I will always recommend planted. It will also help keep your tank clean and water quality higher because plants remove nitrates/nitrites from the fish waste.
Dash and Duchess
10:10:54 DD | ~Squizard~
Versa & Bird, gotta love plants and fishies!
-
Bird, you should! I made the mistake of not doing one with my tetras and I honestly regret it a bit xD
Backwood Barns
10:08:59 Charm's Wubs
Um, I guess? They're alive, but they're not growing for him. They're only as big as they are because they thrived in my tank. So I guess my advice is to get an established piece?
Hummingbird Meadows
10:08:17 Bird
@DD, yes. I kind of want a betta fish. Trying to decide if I should do a planted tank.
Versailles
10:07:56 Versa
Yes indeed, DD
Backwood Barns
10:07:43 Charm's Wubs
Ironically, he can grow 10-feet long Jungle Val, and as soon as I take a few pieces of it, it dies in my tanks. So it's all about finding the plants that you can maintain and thrive in your tanks!
Hummingbird Meadows
10:07:40 Bird
@Charm, pointless as in easy?
Dash and Duchess
10:07:34 DD | ~Squizard~
Ooo are we talking fish and plants? :D
Backwood Barns
10:07:03 Charm's Wubs
Bird, then you need to have a good piece of driftwood or lava rock to attach it to. But they still grow and require trimming! I have a giant anubias in my 135 that has been growing for 6 years on a large piece of driftwood. I can't seem to kill it, but I'll give pieces to my dad for his tank whenever I need to do maintanance and he can't get them to grow at all. Some pieces that are 3 years old are the same size as when I gave them to him. So... I'm not sure about that. I think they're easy and great plants. If you asked my dad he'd say they're pointless LOL
Versailles
10:04:02 Versa
Charm,
He was wild! The brightest pink and shimmery blue I've ever seen in a betta. Loved his leaf hammocks, too.
Hummingbird Meadows
10:03:43 Bird
@Charm, what about rhizome plants that don't need to go in substrate?
Backwood Barns
10:02:42 Charm's Wubs
Bird, you have to have the right soil/substrate first of all. And then you have to either find someone local who will give you cuttings of their established plants, or order online (I recommend ModernAquarium if you do this, I've never had a bad order.) and then once they are established you have to trim them and keep them maintained so they don't overgrow. Sometimes that means throwing extras away, sometimes that means replanting them... if that makes sense.
Versailles
10:02:30 Versa
with*
Yay, English. Apparently I'm getting sleepy lol
Versailles
10:02:03 Versa
Bird,
I do not, Paarthurnax passed just before my move to Tennessee. However, he had a 20 gallon tank all to himself, which a ton of silk plants and caves.
Hummingbird Meadows
10:01:06 Bird
@Versa, do you currently have a betta? What size tank is he in?
Versailles
10:00:47 Versa
I ended up only with a few moss balls because my betta that I tried live plants with had serious beef with these inanimate objects lol
Backwood Barns
10:00:45 Charm's Wubs
Oh my goodness Versa. That's HILARIOUS! Such a spicy and opinionated boy you have!

You must be a registered member for more
than 1 day before you can use our chatbox.



Rules   Hide
You are in: Main Chat
View Sales Chat
Quests
Horse Eden Eventing Game
Chatbox
Hummingbird Meadows
10:13:23 Bird
Other than betta fish, what are some good beginner fish?
Dash and Duchess
10:12:09 DD | ~Squizard~
Exactly what charm said! It really makes things easier, and the fish love it too!
Hummingbird Meadows
10:11:48 Bird
@DD, so you have had good luck with plants?
Backwood Barns
10:10:56 Charm's Wubs
I will always recommend planted. It will also help keep your tank clean and water quality higher because plants remove nitrates/nitrites from the fish waste.
Dash and Duchess
10:10:54 DD | ~Squizard~
Versa & Bird, gotta love plants and fishies!
-
Bird, you should! I made the mistake of not doing one with my tetras and I honestly regret it a bit xD
Backwood Barns
10:08:59 Charm's Wubs
Um, I guess? They're alive, but they're not growing for him. They're only as big as they are because they thrived in my tank. So I guess my advice is to get an established piece?
Hummingbird Meadows
10:08:17 Bird
@DD, yes. I kind of want a betta fish. Trying to decide if I should do a planted tank.
Versailles
10:07:56 Versa
Yes indeed, DD
Backwood Barns
10:07:43 Charm's Wubs
Ironically, he can grow 10-feet long Jungle Val, and as soon as I take a few pieces of it, it dies in my tanks. So it's all about finding the plants that you can maintain and thrive in your tanks!
Hummingbird Meadows
10:07:40 Bird
@Charm, pointless as in easy?
Dash and Duchess
10:07:34 DD | ~Squizard~
Ooo are we talking fish and plants? :D
Backwood Barns
10:07:03 Charm's Wubs
Bird, then you need to have a good piece of driftwood or lava rock to attach it to. But they still grow and require trimming! I have a giant anubias in my 135 that has been growing for 6 years on a large piece of driftwood. I can't seem to kill it, but I'll give pieces to my dad for his tank whenever I need to do maintanance and he can't get them to grow at all. Some pieces that are 3 years old are the same size as when I gave them to him. So... I'm not sure about that. I think they're easy and great plants. If you asked my dad he'd say they're pointless LOL
Versailles
10:04:02 Versa
Charm,
He was wild! The brightest pink and shimmery blue I've ever seen in a betta. Loved his leaf hammocks, too.
Hummingbird Meadows
10:03:43 Bird
@Charm, what about rhizome plants that don't need to go in substrate?
Backwood Barns
10:02:42 Charm's Wubs
Bird, you have to have the right soil/substrate first of all. And then you have to either find someone local who will give you cuttings of their established plants, or order online (I recommend ModernAquarium if you do this, I've never had a bad order.) and then once they are established you have to trim them and keep them maintained so they don't overgrow. Sometimes that means throwing extras away, sometimes that means replanting them... if that makes sense.
Versailles
10:02:30 Versa
with*
Yay, English. Apparently I'm getting sleepy lol
Versailles
10:02:03 Versa
Bird,
I do not, Paarthurnax passed just before my move to Tennessee. However, he had a 20 gallon tank all to himself, which a ton of silk plants and caves.
Hummingbird Meadows
10:01:06 Bird
@Versa, do you currently have a betta? What size tank is he in?
Versailles
10:00:47 Versa
I ended up only with a few moss balls because my betta that I tried live plants with had serious beef with these inanimate objects lol
Backwood Barns
10:00:45 Charm's Wubs
Oh my goodness Versa. That's HILARIOUS! Such a spicy and opinionated boy you have!

You must be a registered member for more
than 1 day before you can use our chatbox.






Refresh


Forums

→ Horse Eden is a fun game! Sign Up Now!

My Subscriptions
My Bookmarks
My Topics
Latest Topics
Following

Forums > The Paddock
   1    2    3    4 

vfiowva February 15, 2024 10:47 AM


ShiningStar Stables
 
Posts: 6907
#1179725
Give Award

4
That all being said, if you know your horse is ready, I don't necessarily think it is a problem to start getting them used to the basics in a way that doesn't hinder their development and growth. With my mare as a two-year-old, she already had a solid start on the ground, I had built a good relationship with her, and above all, she wanted to learn; she would always love trying new things, and she seemed to get bored with all the groundwork (we still did the groundwork, don't worry, lol), so I started just sitting on her in the pasture with a halter and lead rope. I would get her to flex both ways, then neck-rein her both ways, and maybe back a few steps. It was really simple stuff that didn't strain her too much, mentally or physically, but it allowed her to figure out some aspects of riding without messing with her growth.
I didn't actually start riding her until she was like 3.5, and even then, it was, usually, 20–30 minute sessions, part groundwork with like 10-15 minutes of riding, once or twice a month. When she was 4 years old, I started riding her more consistently, but I still paid attention to make sure she wasn't stressed out by it.
As KPH said, just compare them to humans. Each horse is different; some pick things up faster, some slower.
Even if they are eager, I don't start riding them for more than 15 minutes until they are 4 years old, and even then, I try not to push them too hard if they struggle with something since they are still babies. Some horses like a challenge and like to learn; just make sure you aren't doing too much until their bodies can handle it.
Make sure, no matter what, you are listening to what your horse has to say, as that is the most important part of training.
vfiowva March 19, 2024 09:02 PM


ghost light stables
 
Posts: 2220
#1189814
Give Award

ShiningStar Stables said:

ghost light stables said:
ok ima set this here starting a horse a 2 is better than staring at 3 although only walk trot and getting your horse in the bridle no jumping or loping when you start a horse at 3 or 4 there will be worse problems as your starting it 'late' as the horse could be harder to start or even handle on the ground from not being started at a younger age i hope this helps a bit
plus they said they walked over a small crossrail


I don't fully agree with this. As someone who has started a 13-year-old that hasn't had anything done with it, they can be stubborn, but overall, you just have to work at their pace and they will get there.
In my experience, starting a horse later doesn't make it harder as long as you have put some work into the horse on the ground. If you take the time to form a solid bond with the horse and set them up for success with the groundwork, then they will usually be easier to start. If you just throw a foal out at pasture and don't do anything with it until it is 4 and try to pull it up and start it under saddle immediately, it will obviously be harder.

Hopefully, that made sense and came out right. Its 3 a.m. here, and my brain is mostly fried lol

i get what your putting down as ive also started older horses but i also forgot to put in that starting horses at two helps there growth a lot better and it helps them get stronger
vfiowva March 24, 2024 07:25 PM


ShowJumpingChampions
 
Posts: 342
#1191486
Give Award
I agree that starting a horse too young can be damaging to both their mental and physical health, but I have also seen for myself that with the right training a horse who was started young can do very well. I know an 8 year old girl who can handle and ride a 5 year old horse extremely well by herself. They were beginning to learn rollbacks and travers and other more advanced moves. Again, this was with private training which I know can be very expensive and is not for everyone. And this is one horse, every horse is different and progresses at different rates. Please don't take this post the wrong way. I'm not trying to attack or criticize, I'm just giving my experience so it can be used if deemed helpful.
vfiowva March 24, 2024 09:04 PM


FirstLightFarms

Trivia Team
 
Posts: 3858
#1191508
Give Award
This isn't about progress or how well the horse is doing now, it's about longevity of the horse. Breaking them too young leads to problems years down the road, but unfortunately we're too used to immediate gratification these days so these consequences don't become apparent until too late
vfiowva March 24, 2024 09:51 PM


KPH Equestrian
 
Posts: 3451
#1191525
Give Award

FirstLightFarms said:
This isn't about progress or how well the horse is doing now, it's about longevity of the horse. Breaking them too young leads to problems years down the road, but unfortunately we're too used to immediate gratification these days so these consequences don't become apparent until too late


this^^
vfiowva March 25, 2024 09:14 AM


ShowJumpingChampions
 
Posts: 342
#1191612
Give Award
I understand that, but this also circles back to the fact that rushing a horse's training and pushing them to progress faster than they're ready for can affect a horse's longevity. Doing certain things too early can be extremely damaging to the horse, but there are also things that are okay to start early. 2 years seems very young to start a lot of riding but basic things may be okay to do periodically. If it were me, the most I would be doing is lunging and working on things we can do from the ground unless told otherwise by a credible trainer. The people I mentioned before started their horse at three years and were working with world-class gaited horse trainers to develop him the right way. Jennifer and Larry have a lot of experience training horses and do anything they can that will help improve the horse's quality of life. They have immense knowledge of the horse's body and how it works and have seen many issues in horses. I'm not trying to be biased or unfair, I'm not trying to tell you that other trainers do it wrong, all I want to share is what has worked for me and my horses. If you don't agree, that's fine, but if other people think this is helpful, it's there for them.
vfiowva March 25, 2024 04:58 PM


ShowJumpingChampions
 
Posts: 342
#1191733
Give Award

ShiningStar Stables said:
That all being said, if you know your horse is ready, I don't necessarily think it is a problem to start getting them used to the basics in a way that doesn't hinder their development and growth. With my mare as a two-year-old, she already had a solid start on the ground, I had built a good relationship with her, and above all, she wanted to learn; she would always love trying new things, and she seemed to get bored with all the groundwork (we still did the groundwork, don't worry, lol), so I started just sitting on her in the pasture with a halter and lead rope. I would get her to flex both ways, then neck-rein her both ways, and maybe back a few steps. It was really simple stuff that didn't strain her too much, mentally or physically, but it allowed her to figure out some aspects of riding without messing with her growth.
I didn't actually start riding her until she was like 3.5, and even then, it was, usually, 20–30 minute sessions, part groundwork with like 10-15 minutes of riding, once or twice a month. When she was 4 years old, I started riding her more consistently, but I still paid attention to make sure she wasn't stressed out by it.
As KPH said, just compare them to humans. Each horse is different; some pick things up faster, some slower.
Even if they are eager, I don't start riding them for more than 15 minutes until they are 4 years old, and even then, I try not to push them too hard if they struggle with something since they are still babies. Some horses like a challenge and like to learn; just make sure you aren't doing too much until their bodies can handle it.
Make sure, no matter what, you are listening to what your horse has to say, as that is the most important part of training.


This is pretty much what I'm trying to say.

Forums > The Paddock
   1    2    3    4 

Refresh