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Minerva
12:35:05 Min
If you breed her to a stallion naturally, you can't do any embryos (or if you've done 1st embryo you can't put her to a stallion)
Minerva
12:34:16 Min
It would be the 4th for the second but yes. And as long as the "bred this year" is only up because embryos have been used then youre fine. So I used 3 embryos from one of my mares immediately after RO, then did her first embryo on the 2nd I think, then she had her second done last week when I did the firsts for the others. So she's had 2 embryos made this year and 3 live foals on the ground
Fantasy Horses
12:32:13 Fantasy | Fanta
Min
So if I create the first one on the 1st, I can make the 2nd one on the 3rd?

And how is it possible to pull embryos from mares when they've already technically bred that year? Do you just have to miss a year for that to work?
Minerva
12:29:59 Min
Its only creating embryos that has a time and number limit- you can use as many as you like whenever you like
Fantasy Horses
12:27:49 Fantasy | Fanta
Question:
If the mare has already bred this year but you're doing embryos on RO, how exactly does that work? You just have to wait three days before doing the second one?
Minerva
12:26:55 Min
Although I rarely plan matches, just find the best stud at whatever moment I suddenly remember to do them lol. Any time ive planned matches I forget within 5 minutes and discover it when its too late
Gypsy Family Farm
12:26:43 
Which is smarter than the way I do it, that's for sure.
Minerva
12:25:45 Min
Haha Gypsy honestly I do them so I dont have to wait for studs on RO. Just have a few loaded right away, then I can spread breeding costs out over the month making embryos for the next month.
Glacier Bay Cove
12:25:01 Arctic Katz
I would love to breed some WWW horses, eventually
Stormsong Manor
12:24:14 Ven
That turns into a drama trap
Gypsy Family Farm
12:24:10 
I never manage to wait on embryos... I'm like now now now!
Stormsong Manor
12:23:40 Ven
Also, when you specifically request that people review a piece of creative work, you can't demand only positive feedback
Minerva
12:22:21 Min
I've finished most of my SD now I think Gypsy, although ive still got a few 2nd embryos to do for the WWWs 😬
Sweet Valley
12:21:54 Anna/Jewel
Gypsy-I am READY

Ven- I wasn't being mean to anyone. :)
Black Meadow Estate
12:21:47 Meadow
I'm hoping for WWW girls i would love that but a WWW colt i guess wouldn't be so bad
Fantasy Horses
12:21:35 Fantasy | Fanta
Ivy
I think if you want people to tell you what they think of your song you should be open to their views on things, or at least acknowledge their thoughts. People have different opinions, and that's okay.
Gypsy Family Farm
12:21:18 
I am fully not ready for rollover. I've barely finished breeding my SD horses for this year!
Stormsong Manor
12:21:04 Ven
Everyone needs to be kind to one another in this very public chat
Sweet Valley
12:21:00 Anna/Jewel
oh
The Pirate King
12:20:44 The Armada
Ah, so attention seeking then

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Minerva
12:35:05 Min
If you breed her to a stallion naturally, you can't do any embryos (or if you've done 1st embryo you can't put her to a stallion)
Minerva
12:34:16 Min
It would be the 4th for the second but yes. And as long as the "bred this year" is only up because embryos have been used then youre fine. So I used 3 embryos from one of my mares immediately after RO, then did her first embryo on the 2nd I think, then she had her second done last week when I did the firsts for the others. So she's had 2 embryos made this year and 3 live foals on the ground
Fantasy Horses
12:32:13 Fantasy | Fanta
Min
So if I create the first one on the 1st, I can make the 2nd one on the 3rd?

And how is it possible to pull embryos from mares when they've already technically bred that year? Do you just have to miss a year for that to work?
Minerva
12:29:59 Min
Its only creating embryos that has a time and number limit- you can use as many as you like whenever you like
Fantasy Horses
12:27:49 Fantasy | Fanta
Question:
If the mare has already bred this year but you're doing embryos on RO, how exactly does that work? You just have to wait three days before doing the second one?
Minerva
12:26:55 Min
Although I rarely plan matches, just find the best stud at whatever moment I suddenly remember to do them lol. Any time ive planned matches I forget within 5 minutes and discover it when its too late
Gypsy Family Farm
12:26:43 
Which is smarter than the way I do it, that's for sure.
Minerva
12:25:45 Min
Haha Gypsy honestly I do them so I dont have to wait for studs on RO. Just have a few loaded right away, then I can spread breeding costs out over the month making embryos for the next month.
Glacier Bay Cove
12:25:01 Arctic Katz
I would love to breed some WWW horses, eventually
Stormsong Manor
12:24:14 Ven
That turns into a drama trap
Gypsy Family Farm
12:24:10 
I never manage to wait on embryos... I'm like now now now!
Stormsong Manor
12:23:40 Ven
Also, when you specifically request that people review a piece of creative work, you can't demand only positive feedback
Minerva
12:22:21 Min
I've finished most of my SD now I think Gypsy, although ive still got a few 2nd embryos to do for the WWWs 😬
Sweet Valley
12:21:54 Anna/Jewel
Gypsy-I am READY

Ven- I wasn't being mean to anyone. :)
Black Meadow Estate
12:21:47 Meadow
I'm hoping for WWW girls i would love that but a WWW colt i guess wouldn't be so bad
Fantasy Horses
12:21:35 Fantasy | Fanta
Ivy
I think if you want people to tell you what they think of your song you should be open to their views on things, or at least acknowledge their thoughts. People have different opinions, and that's okay.
Gypsy Family Farm
12:21:18 
I am fully not ready for rollover. I've barely finished breeding my SD horses for this year!
Stormsong Manor
12:21:04 Ven
Everyone needs to be kind to one another in this very public chat
Sweet Valley
12:21:00 Anna/Jewel
oh
The Pirate King
12:20:44 The Armada
Ah, so attention seeking then

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feet/hooves January 23, 2023 12:37 AM


Kiwi Mountains
 
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I struggle horrendously with hooves in almost all my pieces where hooves are touching the ground visably and besides the other things I could work on these hooves are supidly annoying I try and try and still seem to be getting no better at it. Just though I'd come and ask if anyone has any tips on how to help me out a little. Or ever to ask if I am over exaggerating this.
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feet/hooves January 23, 2023 03:23 AM


SilverFern Stables
 
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I am by no means a hoof master - but I think I may be able to provide some tips!

I certainly don't think you're hooves are too bad, but personally there are a few things I would do differently. Personally I like less smudged hooves, as I go for a less painted look with my horses. I generally try to preserve as much as the original hooves on the stock as possible, then I use the clone tool to fill them out and create the proper shape/cover up any grass etc. When I do it I always try and preserve the natural colour changes and even grain in the image, so I tend to use a size 7ish brush and clone from areas directly above/below etc but in separate 'dots' if that makes sense , ie I don't drag the brush. For me that stops the hooves from becoming overly muddy in colour and preserves their natural grain and colour. It's only after I get the shape right doing this method that I do any smudging - which for me is pretty minimal as I go for more realistic look and the details on the hoof are quite delicate. That is just my personal method though, and I tend to se stock that has at least one visible hoof so that I can reuse its texture if I need to repaint the others.

In terms of grounding, I think you've done quite well with the last two, especially the left side of the green image. I would suggest trying out putting a darker, more localized shadow directly beneath a hoof that's on the ground in addition to the rest of the shadows, as I find this helps especially when there isn't much grass etc covering the hoof (ie the first image). What I would also be inclined to do would be to lightly darken the bottom of the hooves themselves that are on the ground, especially if there is grass or sand as this can create a slight shadow.

Here is a quick breakdown of nit-picky things I would do differently on each of the pieces - but don't take these as gospel, but my preference!

1. The main thing that sticks out is the colour, while you don't want super dark hooves with white socks, I'd stay away from going too pink - aim for a more grey/white/even yellowish colour such as with the last image. I'd have a go at adding an extra dark shadow right under the hoof as well, and darken the hoof bottom. I'd also say the closer front hoof is a tad too long but that's very pedantic lol

2. The colour works a lot better here, I would just try to darken the hooves around where the sand sits in fort to show some shadow/blend it better. Again this is pedantic, but I feel the front hoof on the ground should have a more angled left side so that it comes out a bit more to the side - try following the angle/line of the pastern downwards to the ground.

3. The grounding is really nice with the grass and I like the less smudged (lighter) front hoof. My only hang up would be the darker front hoof, it looks a bit blocky so I would erase more of it so it looks like more grass is covering it. I would also consider making it lighter so it better matches the other hooves.

4. I think this one fits really nicely with your art style - the hooves don't feel overly smudged or totally one colour, but are also in a similar painted style to the horses body. The only thing I'd try would be darkening the hoof on the ground just above were the sand covers it to add a bit of shadow.

Overall I think you are doing great! These are just my preferences and I find that no horse stock can be treated the same, you just have to play around and try different things - so don't get discouraged. I apologies for the essay lol, It may not even be the sort of feedback you wanted, but I clearly quite like my hooves! Hopefully this all makes sense, feel free to PM me if you ever need help!

feet/hooves January 23, 2023 03:37 AM


Kiwi Mountains
 
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SilverFern Stables said:

I am by no means a hoof master - but I think I may be able to provide some tips!

I certainly don't think you're hooves are too bad, but personally there are a few things I would do differently. Personally I like less smudged hooves, as I go for a less painted look with my horses. I generally try to preserve as much as the original hooves on the stock as possible, then I use the clone tool to fill them out and create the proper shape/cover up any grass etc. When I do it I always try and preserve the natural colour changes and even grain in the image, so I tend to use a size 7ish brush and clone from areas directly above/below etc but in separate 'dots' if that makes sense , ie I don't drag the brush. For me that stops the hooves from becoming overly muddy in colour and preserves their natural grain and colour. It's only after I get the shape right doing this method that I do any smudging - which for me is pretty minimal as I go for more realistic look and the details on the hoof are quite delicate. That is just my personal method though, and I tend to se stock that has at least one visible hoof so that I can reuse its texture if I need to repaint the others.

In terms of grounding, I think you've done quite well with the last two, especially the left side of the green image. I would suggest trying out putting a darker, more localized shadow directly beneath a hoof that's on the ground in addition to the rest of the shadows, as I find this helps especially when there isn't much grass etc covering the hoof (ie the first image). What I would also be inclined to do would be to lightly darken the bottom of the hooves themselves that are on the ground, especially if there is grass or sand as this can create a slight shadow.

Here is a quick breakdown of nit-picky things I would do differently on each of the pieces - but don't take these as gospel, but my preference!

1. The main thing that sticks out is the colour, while you don't want super dark hooves with white socks, I'd stay away from going too pink - aim for a more grey/white/even yellowish colour such as with the last image. I'd have a go at adding an extra dark shadow right under the hoof as well, and darken the hoof bottom. I'd also say the closer front hoof is a tad too long but that's very pedantic lol

2. The colour works a lot better here, I would just try to darken the hooves around where the sand sits in fort to show some shadow/blend it better. Again this is pedantic, but I feel the front hoof on the ground should have a more angled left side so that it comes out a bit more to the side - try following the angle/line of the pastern downwards to the ground.

3. The grounding is really nice with the grass and I like the less smudged (lighter) front hoof. My only hang up would be the darker front hoof, it looks a bit blocky so I would erase more of it so it looks like more grass is covering it. I would also consider making it lighter so it better matches the other hooves.

4. I think this one fits really nicely with your art style - the hooves don't feel overly smudged or totally one colour, but are also in a similar painted style to the horses body. The only thing I'd try would be darkening the hoof on the ground just above were the sand covers it to add a bit of shadow.

Overall I think you are doing great! These are just my preferences and I find that no horse stock can be treated the same, you just have to play around and try different things - so don't get discouraged. I apologies for the essay lol, It may not even be the sort of feedback you wanted, but I clearly quite like my hooves! Hopefully this all makes sense, feel free to PM me if you ever need help!



thanks a lot! ^^

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