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No worries! Sounds very nice :)
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Oops sorry I buggered off haha. Ponies and pub today lol, probably a nice dog walk at some point too
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Have you got any birthday plans?
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Ayy nice one Cali!!


Thank you Raven 😊
Ravenwood Farm
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Happy birthday Min! (oof what bandits they are)
Calela Eventing
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Hey Min,
Guess who gave one of your EWE girlies her second EWE ever, both of them have been from my defect stud.
Such luck
Araluen
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just used 10 maps on captures (+15 traits) for a quest, not a single one with ratings above superb :')
Minerva
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Oh joy, the ponies have decided to celebrate my birthday by breaking through their fencing into the long grass 🙈 Dickheads haha
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I'm excited for this I'm using a blue glass on this pair
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Trish
I'm very nervous to breed her 😬
I will be svenning her as my first match so hopefully she is nice
Morning Glory Farms
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I forgot shes 3 next year i cant wait to see how they do
Sunni
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The match looks really good, and hopefully the cost will be colorful. I am excited for you XD
ShiningStar Stables
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Sunni
That's kind of what I was thinking
The match looks solid plus it has the chance for frame and tobi
Sunni
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Star I think it's worth the gamble
ShiningStar Stables
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Do I risk throwing my maiden to a freshie?
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Geek if it helps you cope, losing someone is all ways painful.
It takes time to heal, and drawing is a good coping mechanism.
Am sorry for your loss, but I all ways tell myself.
It was an honor to know them, and be their friend.
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I'm drawing my recently deceased puppy. I'm not fine
Sunni
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Cove the sleep is coming for you, haha
Glacier Bay Cove
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Oops I meant Geek

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Ravenwood Farm
04:09:08 
No worries! Sounds very nice :)
Minerva
04:07:15 Min
Oops sorry I buggered off haha. Ponies and pub today lol, probably a nice dog walk at some point too
Ravenwood Farm
03:20:17 
Have you got any birthday plans?
Minerva
03:17:38 Min
Ayy nice one Cali!!


Thank you Raven 😊
Ravenwood Farm
03:15:40 
Happy birthday Min! (oof what bandits they are)
Calela Eventing
03:15:38 Cali
Hey Min,
Guess who gave one of your EWE girlies her second EWE ever, both of them have been from my defect stud.
Such luck
Araluen
03:15:36 
just used 10 maps on captures (+15 traits) for a quest, not a single one with ratings above superb :')
Minerva
03:08:46 Min
Oh joy, the ponies have decided to celebrate my birthday by breaking through their fencing into the long grass 🙈 Dickheads haha
Morning Glory Farms
12:23:52 Terici/Dino/Trish
My fingers are crossed for you! I hope she's nice to
Valhalla Acreage
12:21:12 Eivor
-HEE Click-
I'm excited for this I'm using a blue glass on this pair
ShiningStar Stables
12:17:04 Chey / Star
Trish
I'm very nervous to breed her 😬
I will be svenning her as my first match so hopefully she is nice
Morning Glory Farms
12:13:53 Terici/Dino/Trish
I forgot shes 3 next year i cant wait to see how they do
Sunni
12:13:18 Sunni bunny
The match looks really good, and hopefully the cost will be colorful. I am excited for you XD
ShiningStar Stables
12:11:59 Chey / Star
Sunni
That's kind of what I was thinking
The match looks solid plus it has the chance for frame and tobi
Sunni
12:09:56 Sunni bunny
Star I think it's worth the gamble
ShiningStar Stables
12:08:49 Chey / Star
Do I risk throwing my maiden to a freshie?
-HEE Click-
Sunni
12:07:06 Sunni bunny
Geek if it helps you cope, losing someone is all ways painful.
It takes time to heal, and drawing is a good coping mechanism.
Am sorry for your loss, but I all ways tell myself.
It was an honor to know them, and be their friend.
Transformers Acres
12:04:58 Geek, Eek
I'm drawing my recently deceased puppy. I'm not fine
Sunni
12:04:46 Sunni bunny
Cove the sleep is coming for you, haha
Glacier Bay Cove
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Oops I meant Geek

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Horse Conformation Implementation? January 8, 2021 01:43 PM


CC Knabbstruppers
 
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Background

I've been doing loads and loads of conformation research lately. It's so interesting to me! ^^

I'd kindly like to ask that you read my entire schpeel before commenting or posting your thoughts, just to avoid confusion or possible drama.

I would like to know everyone's thoughts on this. It will be a bit long and maybe a little bit fleshed out, but here goes!

The Gist

Maybe we can introduce correct conformation and faults into the game. Certain faults or conformations will become popular for certain showing disciplines and what not.

Take long backed horses for example (or long necked). They'd be preferable for the Jumping classes. This conformation would make them stronger or even strongest in the Jumping traits.

I don't know much about Dressage, but maybe a steep shoulder angle will give a pretty, upright gait (hypothetically) and make them stronger or strongest in the Dressage traits.

Certain conformations (shoulder, hip, back, neck, balance, etc) will make them stronger in certain traits. Certain faults (coon-foot, cow-hock, pigeon-toe, base wide, etc) might affect how long they train up? Or you might expect them to be a low-level eventer?

The horse's conformation should be visibly accessible, meaning player's should be able to take a glance at the horse and determine what it's strong in or what it might be best at and what not. (Yes, this would mean art work tweaks and what not.) They should also be easily discernible from each other.

Maybe in the Vet's Office like with the Color Gene Testing, we could have a Conformation Assessment. You'd pay however many Ebs, say 5k to get your assessment and it'll tell you your horse's faults and conformation, tell you the should and hip angle and whether or not it's ideal.

Example:

Shoulder: 45 Degrees - Ideal

Long-Back - Jumping

Forelegs:

Lateral - Camped-In

Knee: Ideal

Caudal - Base: Ideal

Knee: Knocked

Etc., etc.

I think this kind of conformation would also help breeders (and hopefully those who have a harder time understanding the ratings) pick and choose their horses more carefully, particularly for breeding. The conformation should definitely be genetic of some sort. Or say if your horse is knock-kneed it has like a 10-20% chance of passing it on to its offspring, etc.

The Work

I understand that this would probably take a great deal of time to put into action. There has to be subtle changes to the art for particularly the most common conformations (club foot, back length, shoulder angle, etc.) on all the breeds. The good part though, is the variations are typically small. Clubbed feet we'd only really need one variation on each breed. But there is the fact that it can happen to all feet or just one foot. Back length we'd only need three variants: short, mid, and long. Same with withers: High, ideal, and mutton-withered.

I also understand it'd take time to code in all of the variations and possibly having a whole other "pedigree" style tab on our horse's page among the coding of passing it down. It would definitely take a while.

The Benefit

I do see a lot of benefit in this though.

- It would motivate those looking to profit to really look through the horses and selectively breed to best suit their eventing and showing needs.

- It would help the newer players visually learn to know what a horse is best in.

- It will provide motivation to learn what traits apply to each Class.

- It would motivate breeders to produce, nice strong, clean looking and productive lines that other players would seek out.

- It would be an extra and fun challenge.

- It may motivate breeders to profit in showing.

- It may also help newer players to understand the concept of ratings and matchmaking.

- It would help provide those who learn visually with breeding for ratings.

- It may also help motivate the color breeding community to be more selective in their breeding and to produce horses that would be appealing to other players for showing.

Your Thoughts

I 100% want your guys' thoughts on this. The good, the bad, and the ugliest that you have, your added suggestions and help with possibly completely fleshing this out and presenting it in the Suggestion Polls.


Edited at January 8, 2021 01:43 PM by CC Knabbstruppers
Horse Conformation Implementation? January 8, 2021 01:50 PM


The Old Gods
 
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This would pretty much cause havoc for anyone with an established breeding program and quite possibly destroy literal years of work.

On top of that, the vast majority of people aren't going to know what any of the information for conformation even means. "Lateral - Camped-In" means absolutely nothing to me, and I assume that for most people, they would feel the same.

I feel that this would kill the interest in the game for a lot of people.


Edited at January 8, 2021 01:50 PM by Eurynome
Horse Conformation Implementation? January 8, 2021 01:55 PM

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Some people don't know what conformation is. If this was to be implemented, then there would have to be a guide, but I think that it would be more eductaional to those who want to own/show horses. It has it's downfalls, but I wouldn't mind! I'd sit back, and learn.
Horse Conformation Implementation? January 8, 2021 01:59 PM

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While conformation is interesting there is absolutely no way this is going to get implemented. Besides the reasons of potentially destroying years of breeding part of the reason there is not going to be a new breed is because it's taken years for the current art to be developed and even just one version of all the patterns would be way too much work. Adding just the 7 faults you mentioned for every single breed is astronomically higher and I really doubt Eve is going to want to pay for 63 new versions of every single pattern when she doesn't even want 1.
Horse Conformation Implementation? January 8, 2021 04:07 PM


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I think that there could be a way to implement this to explain, say, bad ratings. But without any art changes, because that's just way too complicated. For example, in the ratings section, there could be a little blurb that says:
"X is low in (stat) because of (reason)"
Which could maybe be used to diagnose weaknesses, but not the degree of weakness. Which might impact the need to track training, but shouldn't really impact the game in any significant way. (and wouldn't show up on a horse with a high rating that's moderately well rounded in all traits)
This would not interfere with actual gameplay, and would be more of a cosmetic thing, because it wouldn't affect breeding at all (besides maybe making untracked/untrained horses- probably EEP or lower combos- easier to match).
I'm not sure whether it would be applied to horses that are rated only, or if it could be shown for all horses, regardless of whether or not they're rated.

Edited at January 8, 2021 04:08 PM by Saltea Stables
Horse Conformation Implementation? January 8, 2021 04:10 PM

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Saltea Stables said:
I think that there could be a way to implement this to explain, say, bad ratings.
"X is low in (stat) because of (reason)"
Which could maybe be used to diagnose weaknesses, but not the degree of weakness. Which might impact the need to track training, but shouldn't really impact the game in any significant way. (and wouldn't show up on a horse with a high rating that's moderately well rounded in all traits)
This would not interfere with actual gameplay, and would be more of a cosmetic thing, because it wouldn't affect breeding at all (besides maybe making untracked/untrained horses- probably EEP or lower combos- easier to match).


Either this is something that impacts the game a lot and people don't want it or it's just cosmetic and still only certain people want it.
Personalities got shot down for the same reasons, if it's important to you add it to the horses' remarks. Most people don't want extra information that isn't necessary cluttering up the horse pages.

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