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Rubygem
06:29:59 Asha ~ Ruby girl :D
Ok my show horse is getting better finally she got 1 twice in a row
*Winter Nights*
06:14:46 Star / Sarah
But not this one :D
*Winter Equines*
06:11:58 Winter/Snowball
I wanted to give a sherpa map for trivia bonus prize, but puck has blocked this account :/
*Winter Equines*
06:04:27 Winter/Snowball
DD, I knoww, I mean his dam is strong in scp, but not that strong, I could understand if he would be training in sd or I would have used scp glass when I bred him, but that just messes with my brain, I've never seen a horse go up in wk 6
Dash and Duchess
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It's honestly pretty crazy xD
*Winter Equines*
05:59:05 Winter/Snowball
You should tell that to the owner xD but damnn howw can he be so strong in scp
Dash and Duchess
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Winter, Ooo he could be a really good SD J boy 👀
*Winter Equines*
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Griffen, 6
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Winter
What week is he on...
*Winter Equines*
04:52:21 Winter/Snowball
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Someone explain how iss thiss possible?? (the trainingg!)
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Send sign ups for The Artist's Rumble to SCF 266600. We will close sign ups at 6 am game time. We have openings in all tiers but could use more T2 or T4 artists.
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Hot 2 Trot
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You got my luck xD
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Foggy Mtn PONs
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Best foal from 24 or so captures, with ddventurer's maps lol -HEE Click-
*Winter Equines*
04:04:59 Winter/Snowball
What time os the trivia today?
Hot 2 Trot
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Golden Crest
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In July, Kas :)
Bangtan Boys
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Does anyone know when the next capture party is
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Rubygem
06:29:59 Asha ~ Ruby girl :D
Ok my show horse is getting better finally she got 1 twice in a row
*Winter Nights*
06:14:46 Star / Sarah
But not this one :D
*Winter Equines*
06:11:58 Winter/Snowball
I wanted to give a sherpa map for trivia bonus prize, but puck has blocked this account :/
*Winter Equines*
06:04:27 Winter/Snowball
DD, I knoww, I mean his dam is strong in scp, but not that strong, I could understand if he would be training in sd or I would have used scp glass when I bred him, but that just messes with my brain, I've never seen a horse go up in wk 6
Dash and Duchess
05:59:55 DD | ~Squizard~
It's honestly pretty crazy xD
*Winter Equines*
05:59:05 Winter/Snowball
You should tell that to the owner xD but damnn howw can he be so strong in scp
Dash and Duchess
05:53:11 DD | ~Squizard~
Winter, Ooo he could be a really good SD J boy 👀
*Winter Equines*
05:00:59 Winter/Snowball
Griffen, 6
Griffen Barns
04:55:57 Griffen | Gel
Winter
What week is he on...
*Winter Equines*
04:52:21 Winter/Snowball
-HEE Click-
Someone explain how iss thiss possible?? (the trainingg!)
Elks
04:45:27 Elky
oh ello you -HEE Click-
SCF Sporting Chance
04:31:09 SCF/Gibbs
Send sign ups for The Artist's Rumble to SCF 266600. We will close sign ups at 6 am game time. We have openings in all tiers but could use more T2 or T4 artists.
-HEE Click-
Hot 2 Trot
04:29:19 ♡Holly♡
You got my luck xD
-HEE Click-
Foggy Mtn PONs
04:22:16 Fog
adventurer’s *
Foggy Mtn PONs
04:22:05 Fog
Best foal from 24 or so captures, with ddventurer's maps lol -HEE Click-
*Winter Equines*
04:04:59 Winter/Snowball
What time os the trivia today?
Hot 2 Trot
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Howdy
Golden Crest
03:43:46 | Eve
In July, Kas :)
Bangtan Boys
03:19:52 Kas
Does anyone know when the next capture party is
Lunalovegood
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Aww cute opal

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Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:21 PM


Eastwood Acres
 
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I'm not to good with genetics and just tested her. If someone can help I'd like to know if there's anything special or noteworthy about her genetics :) Thank you in advance!

Edited at February 25, 2024 04:21 PM by Eastwood Acres
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:27 PM


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Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 04:39 PM


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The Joker said:
Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!


Thank you so much! I appreciate it a lot :)
Genetic Help February 25, 2024 05:01 PM


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Eastwood Acres said:

The Joker said:
Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :)
I hope this helps!


Thank you so much! I appreciate it a lot :)


Of course! Happy to help :) I believe the amber part of her colour is caused by her base colour of Ee which would usually be bay/brown, I may be incorrect though and it may be linked to the agouti gene instead
Genetic Help February 26, 2024 01:28 PM


Clear Springs
 
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Champagnes have weird color names.
Gold Champagne = Chestnut (ee ??) + Champagne gene
Amber Champagne = Bay (E?A?) + Champagne gene
Sable Champagne = Brown (E?At?) + Champagne gene
Classic Champagne = Black (E?aa)+ Champagne gene

So the "Amber" part of her color just means she would be a plain bay horse without the Champagne gene. She's E(black-based) A(agouti) plus Ch(Champagne). She also has that At gene in there which doesn't show on her, but means she could have a brown foal.

The Extension (E/e) gene just determines if a horse is black-based or red-based. If the horse has at least one E gene it's black-based, if ee it's red-based. All horse colors are one or the other with modifiers added for colors besides Black and Chestnut.

The Agouti (A/At/a) gene here is considered only active in black-based horses, so a horse that is red-based (ee) won't express it no matter what alleles are present. What it does is restrict where on the horse black pigment is fully expressed. It limits actual black to the "points" of the horse and leaves the body lacking enough pigment to be truly black, so it's just sort of a faded black color (which appears red, but isn't). So a horse with E?A? is the full-on Agouti color we call "bay" with black points and reddish body. A horse with E?At? has more expression of pigment on the body, has brown "highlights" on the nose, flank, etc and black points and is called "brown". A horse with E?aa is black all over with no restriction from the Agouti gene.

So now we have what E/e and A/At/a are and what they mean to horse colors, you can take all those and apply the modifiers like the white-spotting patterns (Tobiano, Sabino, Frame), Roan, Dun, etc and add in that Champagne has those weird names and so does Cream(CcrC) (Chestnut + Cream = Palomino, Bay + Cream = Buckskin, Brown + Cream = Brown Buckskin, Black + Cream = Smoky Black) and Double Cream(CcrCcr) (Chestnut = Cremello, Bay/Brown = Perlino, Black = Smoky Cream).

Most of the genes here are dominantly-expressed (the capital letter means the horse has that trait), but Pearl is recessive (a horse must have prlprl to be Pearl) and Agouti has 3 alleles, where A overrides the other two, At only overrides a and aa means "non-Agouti).

Hope that helps some people who are still a bit confused. Variable color names don't help. It's like the gene that's called merle in every other dog breed is called dapple in dachshunds. You just have to learn the color names and roll with it.

Edited at February 26, 2024 02:06 PM by Clear Springs
Genetic Help February 26, 2024 10:38 PM


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Clear Springs said:
Champagnes have weird color names.
Gold Champagne = Chestnut (ee ??) + Champagne gene
Amber Champagne = Bay (E?A?) + Champagne gene
Sable Champagne = Brown (E?At?) + Champagne gene
Classic Champagne = Black (E?aa)+ Champagne gene

So the "Amber" part of her color just means she would be a plain bay horse without the Champagne gene. She's E(black-based) A(agouti) plus Ch(Champagne). She also has that At gene in there which doesn't show on her, but means she could have a brown foal.

The Extension (E/e) gene just determines if a horse is black-based or red-based. If the horse has at least one E gene it's black-based, if ee it's red-based. All horse colors are one or the other with modifiers added for colors besides Black and Chestnut.

The Agouti (A/At/a) gene here is considered only active in black-based horses, so a horse that is red-based (ee) won't express it no matter what alleles are present. What it does is restrict where on the horse black pigment is fully expressed. It limits actual black to the "points" of the horse and leaves the body lacking enough pigment to be truly black, so it's just sort of a faded black color (which appears red, but isn't). So a horse with E?A? is the full-on Agouti color we call "bay" with black points and reddish body. A horse with E?At? has more expression of pigment on the body, has brown "highlights" on the nose, flank, etc and black points and is called "brown". A horse with E?aa is black all over with no restriction from the Agouti gene.

So now we have what E/e and A/At/a are and what they mean to horse colors, you can take all those and apply the modifiers like the white-spotting patterns (Tobiano, Sabino, Frame), Roan, Dun, etc and add in that Champagne has those weird names and so does Cream(CcrC) (Chestnut + Cream = Palomino, Bay + Cream = Buckskin, Brown + Cream = Brown Buckskin, Black + Cream = Smoky Black) and Double Cream(CcrCcr) (Chestnut = Cremello, Bay/Brown = Perlino, Black = Smoky Cream).

Most of the genes here are dominantly-expressed (the capital letter means the horse has that trait), but Pearl is recessive (a horse must have prlprl to be Pearl) and Agouti has 3 alleles, where A overrides the other two, At only overrides a and aa means "non-Agouti).

Hope that helps some people who are still a bit confused. Variable color names don't help. It's like the gene that's called merle in every other dog breed is called dapple in dachshunds. You just have to learn the color names and roll with it.


Thank you!

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