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Sorry Glacier. I lost my last grandparent Oct 7th of this year. My parents and I took care of her for 20 years as she had dementia.
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Angel

Oh wow, IÂ’m sorry. I canÂ’t imagine what itÂ’s like losing them, I would be devastated.
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They have all passed away, on both sides of the family
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10:51:26 Angel Cats
I miss getting to spend time with my grandparents, so much
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Oh goodnessÂ… just got back from my grandparents for early Christmas presents with them and I got so much. They spoil me 😭😂
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Same here. Just finished wrapping all the gifts. Usually have them done a week before but I was busy with everything else
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I'm excited for Christmas - mostly for everyone to open their presents XD went all out this year. Already had our Christmas Eve dinner and it was fantastic 😋
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Yes
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-HEE Click- Is that lace on his bum?
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I am mostly just ticked she didn't listen to me and I got burned because of it.
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:-|
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Yeah, I see a small blister forming though.
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Ouch! Will cold water help at all?
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It's a small burn, but before it happened I told her she needs to be careful and stop swinging her stick towards my face when her smore catches fire.
Revel Ranch
10:15:04 Hummer
Her smore caught fire so she pulled it out and in the process swung it towards my face and a piece fell off and landed on my leg. I'm not happy with her.
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10:14:41 
You okay, Hummer?
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10:13:06 Myth/Crowley/Grinch
OMG Hummer how?
Revel Ranch
10:09:54 Hummer
My Mom just freakin burned me while we were making smores.
Gypsy Family Farm
10:04:03 
Nothing wrong with Christmas excitement at any age!
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LMAO I did the same thing. insomnia + Christmas excitement is double whammy for me
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   Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron Genetics June 9, 2024 05:34 PM

Cimarron Wind
 
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Sorry but I just wanna share bc this is super exciting to me.

Spirit from DreamWorks “Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron” (2002) was confirmed as Dun! James Baxter did a soft confirmation in a rapid-style 2002 AMA, but Carlos Grangel has now confirmed both Esperanza and Spirit as dun.

~~ FILM ONLY CANON ~~

If you take the original film as the only canon media, then Spirit can only be proven as (at least) bay dun. Film Spirit was designed without any father in mind. Given the factors, it would mean:

Esperanza = (e/e, Cr/n, D/—)

Spirit = (E/—, A/—, D/—)

~~ BOOK+FILM CANON ~~

If you take the original film and the Kathleen Duey series as canon media, then Spirit can still only be confirmed genetically as (at least) bay dun. However, Spirit’s sire in the book was an all black stallion. With this added factor, it would mean:

Esperanza = (e/e, A/—, Cr/n, D/—)

Spirit = (E/e, A/a, D/—)

~~ BOOK+FILM+SEQUEL CANON ~~

If you take the original film, the Kathleen Duey series, and the Untamed movie as canon media, then Spirit can be confirmed genetically as dunskin. “Spirit Jr” is a buckskin with no dun; since Rain is a red with no cream, the cream must have been inherited from Spirit. With these added factors, it would mean:

Esperanza = (e/e, A/—, Cr/n, D/—)

Spirit = (E/e, A/a, Cr/n, D/nd2)

I personally don’t take the books or Untamed as canon, but I still believe that he’s a Dunskin! Do you think he’s a Dunskin or just a Bay Dun? Which media do you take as canon? I’d love to hear!


Edited at June 9, 2024 05:36 PM by Cimarron Wind
Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron Genetics June 9, 2024 05:35 PM

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gonna edit this to talk about foal possibilities lol
Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron Genetics June 9, 2024 07:12 PM


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if I remember correctly, Esperanza was a Dunalino, so I think Spirit's a Dunskin :3 Very interesting, though!
Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron Genetics June 9, 2024 08:35 PM

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Both Spirit and Esperanza are confirmed as dun in the film, but Esperanza was confirmed specifically as palomino dun (Dunalino). It can pretty much be confirmed through background horses that Spirit is a Dunskin in the film, but we don't actually have any animator confirmation yet that Spirit is cream as well as dun in the film. It's only if you consider Spirit Jr (buckskin) as his canon son that it becomes confirmed Spirit carries cream as well as dun. But basically we don't "technically" know for sure whether Spirit in the film inherited Esperanza's cream.

I definitely think he's dunskin though, based on the two buckskins!

Edited at June 9, 2024 08:36 PM by Cimarron Wind

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