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   Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron Genetics June 9, 2024 05:34 PM

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Sorry but I just wanna share bc this is super exciting to me.

Spirit from DreamWorks “Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron” (2002) was confirmed as Dun! James Baxter did a soft confirmation in a rapid-style 2002 AMA, but Carlos Grangel has now confirmed both Esperanza and Spirit as dun.

~~ FILM ONLY CANON ~~

If you take the original film as the only canon media, then Spirit can only be proven as (at least) bay dun. Film Spirit was designed without any father in mind. Given the factors, it would mean:

Esperanza = (e/e, Cr/n, D/—)

Spirit = (E/—, A/—, D/—)

~~ BOOK+FILM CANON ~~

If you take the original film and the Kathleen Duey series as canon media, then Spirit can still only be confirmed genetically as (at least) bay dun. However, Spirit’s sire in the book was an all black stallion. With this added factor, it would mean:

Esperanza = (e/e, A/—, Cr/n, D/—)

Spirit = (E/e, A/a, D/—)

~~ BOOK+FILM+SEQUEL CANON ~~

If you take the original film, the Kathleen Duey series, and the Untamed movie as canon media, then Spirit can be confirmed genetically as dunskin. “Spirit Jr” is a buckskin with no dun; since Rain is a red with no cream, the cream must have been inherited from Spirit. With these added factors, it would mean:

Esperanza = (e/e, A/—, Cr/n, D/—)

Spirit = (E/e, A/a, Cr/n, D/nd2)

I personally don’t take the books or Untamed as canon, but I still believe that he’s a Dunskin! Do you think he’s a Dunskin or just a Bay Dun? Which media do you take as canon? I’d love to hear!


Edited at June 9, 2024 05:36 PM by Cimarron Wind
Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron Genetics June 9, 2024 05:35 PM

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gonna edit this to talk about foal possibilities lol
Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron Genetics June 9, 2024 07:12 PM


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if I remember correctly, Esperanza was a Dunalino, so I think Spirit's a Dunskin :3 Very interesting, though!
Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron Genetics June 9, 2024 08:35 PM

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Both Spirit and Esperanza are confirmed as dun in the film, but Esperanza was confirmed specifically as palomino dun (Dunalino). It can pretty much be confirmed through background horses that Spirit is a Dunskin in the film, but we don't actually have any animator confirmation yet that Spirit is cream as well as dun in the film. It's only if you consider Spirit Jr (buckskin) as his canon son that it becomes confirmed Spirit carries cream as well as dun. But basically we don't "technically" know for sure whether Spirit in the film inherited Esperanza's cream.

I definitely think he's dunskin though, based on the two buckskins!

Edited at June 9, 2024 08:36 PM by Cimarron Wind

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